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Lindsey graham said we have a national security threat facing us called the shutdown. >> right. >> a users guide to obama care. does it work? is it easy? >> it isnt easy. everyone was amazed at how large the numbers were. >> they went to health care.gov to see how it works. there is curiosity. will this do anything for me? we walked leaders through it. dee dee, thank you very much. chuck todd, see you on "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. after kwoez sm"morning joe." chris, your new book "tip and

This as soon as i could. i would not blink and give my baby away. i think chris is right. if i could get away with averting this on my own, not only a good idea but im sure the american people would be as well. they want to move on and get the stuff that matters. >> it would take the authority away from congress. >> it would help obama and the next president. we cant have presidents be held hostage. its not right. >> thank you very much, ron. chris matthews, dee dee, stick around if you can. sti...

0 hostage for a ransom they cant win through an election. >> okay. there we go. >> here we go. >> 6:00 on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." its thursday, october 3. the government is still shut down. with us on set, the chairman of deutsch incorporated, donny deutsch. i love donny. >> unfortunately not furloughed. we tried. >> it is not a joke. vice president executive editor of msnbc.com richard wolf. >> good morning. >> good morning. in washington, former white house press secretary an...

President signs it, is the law, and upholding the law is a good question, should we uphold the law? i think he goes past his issue, which is the substance, the policy, which will be debated for years. the question is should the law be upheld? >> the question is, when is the law legitimate ever? >> that is a good question, but if you delay the law then you wouldnt be upheld, the president has delayed it for big business and all his friends. and the question is, is the law ready at this time? is i...

New legislation, and the president signs it, is the law, and upholding the law is a good question, should we uphold the law? i think he goes past his issue, which is the substance, the policy, which will be debated for years. the question is should the law be upheld? >> the question is, when is the law legitimate ever? >> that is a good question, but if you delay the law then you wouldnt be upheld, the president has delayed it for big business and all his friends. and the question is, is the law...

If i were, id be worried about next years elections. because i think republicans are poised to now pick up some seats in the senate and the house. whats going to happen here is every poll after poll shows republicans are going to be in trouble. >> dont the republicans have a point to a certain extent. >> yes. >> delaying obama care, obama delayed obama care. >> heres the problem. >> obama gave waivers to the unions, waivers to big corporations that did not want to enact obama care. hes delayed o...

Julia, start off on this one. why is it discriminatory for somebody to have to bring voter id to vote when you needed to have an id to come into this building today? >> youre absolutely right. the id i have is from fox news. i got it because i happen to be a contributor here. if youre somebody whos a minority or student you have less of a propensity to have a drivers license. thats one of the very few ids that north carolina will accept. if you dont have a drivers license, you cant vote. thats a...

The difference is in a kidnapping, you grab the baby and ask for the money. in this case, grab the money and ask for the baby. obama wont give him his baby, you cant negotiate this. dee dee pointed this out. this is his claim to history, what he did after 40 or 50 years of democratic party claim, the clintons tried, almost got it. everybody said were going to do it since roosevelt, to say im going to give it away, or delay it. i think everybody knows the people who want it to delay in a year, wa...

>> yes, they are. gretchen, i just think theres d.c. fatigue for republicans and democrats. unfortunately its the american people. theyre thinking, what in the world are they doing there? whats going to happen i think is a shutdown. sometimes you have to hit bottom before things actually can be fixed. and weve gone here so many times. its been groundhogs day. were going to have a government shutdown over and over and over again. now it might actually happen. itll be interesting to see. >> but yo...

0 >> well, gretchen, you have to respect the other side. you know theres a lack of respect right now. and we see it very strongly. but you have to respect the other side. they dont like each other. they dont respect each other. they dont think well of each other. they dont get along together. they dont go out together. every once in a while, theyll play golf, but not enough. its really a problem for the country. theres a lot of hatred among the parties. if you dont -- if you cant understand the ...