dan o'connor and state senator troy balderson are neck in in this case neck in a district donald trump won by 11 points. a district that has been red since 1939. aside from a two-year blip in the '80s. now it is a district that could easily turn blue. >> not just women, i think men are as well a little confused what's going on in the republican party and everybody is kind of looking to support the best candidate rather than be more a partisan issue. >> do you normally vote for republicans or democrats? >> i tend to be a conservative testimony i wou democrat i would say. >> was it something about o'connor. >> it is more about sending a message. i mean, the republicans have to wake up. if they are not going to be a
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majority in the house, voters in michigan and kansas and washington state are also headed to the polls. >> is this a consequence of democrats have the momentum and energy? are they drawn to the party's ir resistible messaging or about the republican party, a party with a president who dominates the daily discourse and shames republican morals. a part in the tlauls of an existent shal crisis, the grand oel party or party of trump? >> the big question we're asking, is another gop election loss enough for the gop to change its strategy? joining me, msnbc capitol hill correspondent dare ron hak in columbus ohio and rick sherman. good to see you out of the capitol, number one. you've been talking to folks for the past day. what sort of things have you been hearing beyond what we just played a moment ago?
changes in november. >> how much of this is about the democrats' message or is it more about as we suggested in the lead-in the open to this show that this is about a republican party that is in the middle fl an existential crisis, except for the identity of the man in the oval office? >> it's not about democrats as a national party they are messaging. you see a huge difference obviously from alexandria cortez talking about abolish s i.c.e. and danny o'connor, two different candidates. it's not even about the president in some ways because the president is actually above water in this district, 48% in most polls, anywhere between 48 and 51% of voters here like -- approve of the job the president is doing. i think this is about a massive influx of cash. republicans have spent $4 million in this district, which is an unheard of sum that congressional leadership fund
it's coming. >> about frank o'connor. >> to represent the 12th congress at district. it's a big day and we worked hard to get here. >> reporters are we trying to get him to comment on something he said, he don't want someone from franklin county representing us. >> franklin county is the most populist county in the state. it's responsible for 30% of the votes that are going to get cast and by the way, it's the more democratic, more moderate columbus and it's nearest end suburb. what you saw there is balderson intentionally or not last night saying hey, i'm the guy who's going to be the representative for all of the these more rural places, not necessarily the candidate of the city folk if you will. it's one of those things where you sort -- you said the quiet
the mini me to donald trump. and so i talked to one of consultants yesterday and said doesn't matter how much money you spend anymore. once people decide they are not going to vote because of trump, it's over. i think this very republican district, we're still -- still a competitive seat but o'connor has proven that candidate quality matter and if you're trying to be a reapplicant of trump, you're going to put yourself in a state of vulnerability and if you're a guy like o'connor or lam they have communicated in the district and haven't hustled. balderson doesn't seem like he has a lot of hustle. >> he seems to be dodging the press. >> not a happy warrior. >> usually the press gets your message out -- >> exactly. >> how it works typical. >> do you think -- if the democrats are not able to take
this seat, this is going to be something of a deflator? >> certainly not, the fact we're looking at the dead heat in our plus 7 district i think is making everybody on the other side incredibly nervous and empowering those on our site. if it comes anywhere near as close as polling suggests, that's definitely a loss for the gop even if we wind up for balderson. i agree with everything rick said about the particulars of the race but i do think there is something larger happening across the country in terms of progressive enthusiasm and turnout. we have seen democratic turnout rise 84% by what it was in 2014. i think what is happening, democrats realized across the country we have been falling down on voting when it wasn't a presidential -- the republicans have just been eating our luncheon this. we were vaguely aware of it but we weren't actually doing anything about it. once donald trump got elected and we saw how bad things could
get, i think that changed. so since his election, in every special election that we've had in 2017 and 2018, we have seen republican performance drop and democratic performance rise as electronomically. this could be more than just a backlash to trump this year. this could be a party realizing what it needs to do to elect the people it wants to be represented by. >> donald trump has endorsed balderson. he's trying to get him to lift up in the race any other races that are the primaries happening today, he's endorsed people like chris kobach running in kentucky. >> kansas. >> kansas, excuse me. k state. in kansas and so far the people that he's endorsed have tended to be the more controversial choice. and endorsing somebody like chris kobach leading the charge on the voter fraud investigation when there's no real -- no such thing as voter fraud the way he was describing it. >> right. >> how does that help the
republican party? he wants anyone who is running to owe him. trump looks at himself as a medieval lord and these guys are his vessels, he's going to say i put you in here and selected you. you're not part of anything else. you're part of me. you know, set aside that's completely departure from our constitutional principles and history, but defined by trump at all points -- if kobach gets the nomination and has a rage tweet on toilet, kansas is a horrible hell hole and i hate them, chris kobach is screwed. he's not mindful of political party leader. it's all impulse and all what's there in the moment and all whatever comes out of his itchy twitter finger any given second. >> you wrote a book and the fate
that has befallen them, mike flynn, et cetera, et cetera, paul manafort, rick gates. this is not quite the narrative of your book. if donald trump is putting his blessing on these candidates that are not going on to win and say the republicans don't win in a special election, do you think that's going to be a turning point for the republican party to start to change their strategy? >> i don't think this special will change the strategy. these guys are way locked in and the ones that secretly don't love trump, they are terrified of him tweeting or getting angry at them. the ones who do love trump, they'll ride in pony until it falls over dead. if there's a significant democratic sweep in november, there will be a lot of folks who make -- get to an understanding that the endorsement in the primary was great and incredibly helpful and desisive but in the
general it's poison. i think we may be getting there and seeing democrats when they get activated by trump will crawl over broken glass to vote against his people. i think we're -- we'll see the test case tonight. it's still a very republican district though. >> in terms of enthusiasm, where are you looking most for democratic enthusiasm? is it women? black women specifically? >> i mean, honestly black women are the people we count on to pull us over the finish liner election. i have no doubt they'll turn out in massive numbers this year because they were part of the constituency that didn't need trump getting elected to get the memo they have to turn out even when the president is not on the line. i'm looking at college educated white women who have been a reliable voting bloc since time in memorial and seem to be softening probably because the president is a huge mass saj in any event. they seem to be not as into that as they were when the republican vanguard was a mitt romney. i'm interested to see do we start to get them? do they start to come over to
the democratic side? if that happens, then republicans and trump are really left with white men. and specific segments of white men. the base is getting smaller and smaller for them. if they lose white college educated women, it's hard to get a majority in this country anymore. >> i want to read one portion from rick's book, everything we never warned you, massive downstream election losses is coming and alienating african-americans and hispanics beyond redemption, check. raising young voters fleeing the gop in droves. check. juvenile complaints and ego bruises taking center stage while the world burns. check. blistering pig ignorance about the economy and world. check, shredding the last credibility is a party that cares about debt, deficits and fiscal probity.
check. rick wilsowilson, good luck wit vote. >> that is a damning portrait of the republican party. we appreciate you coming. guys it has been a pleasure as always. >> a wild day in the paul man that fort trial. the judge in the case accuses of prosecutor of prying next. george woke up in pain. but he has plans today. so he took aleve this morning. hey dad. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long. now introducing aleve back and muscle pain, for up to 12 hours of pain relief with just one pill. ahoy! gotcha! nooooo... noooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent.
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manafort is back on the stand. rick gates continues his testimony today. asked yesterday why are nooath whether he committed any crimes with mr. manafort, gates answered yes and also admitted to embezzles hundreding of thousands from his boss carefully avoiding the flinting stares his mentor from the nearby defense table according to ken dellanian. manafort's lawyers seemed eager to get to cross-examination where they will make every effort to paint gates as a cowardly schemer lying to save his own skin. if the day goes as planned, the defense should get that chance today. joining me from outside the courthouse in alexandria, nbc news intelligence reporter kendelanian and seth waxman,
partner at did inson wright. you said it's like a soap opera in there today. walk us through what's happening. >> well, katy, you explained some of the drama, of course, mr. gates long time pro to jay of paul manafort walking in to testify against his mentor. manafort stare beiing bullets a. today we moved into a different mode where gates is getting into the nitty-gritty and it's been very powerful testimony from gates because it doesn't just rely on his word. the prosecution is very cleverly using documents and e-mails, often with mr. manafort's own words to show participation in this tax fraud and bank fraud. first they showed that manafort and gates together knew about foreign bank accounts that weren't reported on manafort's tax returns and concerted effort to hide income by showing it as loans and most recently i
stepped out of the courtroom where they were talking about 2016 when the business had collapsed and they had no clients and trying to lie and prop up income to get loans from a bank. gates testified that manafort directed him to essentially help fake documents. there was one case manafort wanted a pdf converted into microsoft word to change inflate his income. very powerful testimony. the defense does want to cross-examination gates and that's going to happen today but it's hard -- it's going to be hard to overcome these documents in black and white with paul n manafort. >> there was one change a document the jury was shown where manafort had shown his 2014 income tax projection. and he says, i just wtf and manafort, being blindsided like this.
this is a -- as ken just said, financially strapped. they talked about how the man, ukrainian president -- lost power, significantly decreased and difficulty paying his bills according to gates' testimony. why is it so important to show that he was having problems paying his bills in this trial, seth? >> well, i mean, that's just another mode -- i think there are two big things we're hearing out of the courthouse, the one you're bringing up now. this case says prosecutors who put this on and often times say it's about greed, he wanted more and more money and that's why he didn't pay taxes. now we're hearing he was in financial zdistress this gives another mode. when jurors hear this, not only do they have the more common, the greed aspect of a case like this but now they see the unnerving need that he had and
that could be telling and very persuasive to a jury. >> seth, you tell me if i'm skipping ahead here. could this be laying groundwork for how this ties into the russia probe and broader question of conspiracy, collusion and coordination. manafort needed money. is this mueller's -- trying to paint this portrait of get into the public record of manafort as a man desperate which is why it's a weird an open question and weird -- it's just weird that manafort went to work for donald trump under all of these financial issues and wasn't getting paid. >> well, i think the main purpose of this trial from the overarching mueller investigation is to get paul nan manafort to flip. this background, as a former federal prosecutor, did it for 13 years, conspiracies don't just fall out of the sky in the middle of march of 2016 or june of 2016. there's a history -- there are
relationships and business relationships and there are reasons why the russians felt reaching out to paul manafort and these facts, the decade or so of interactions and business transactions with russian backed yugoslavians or others, can be how the formation of a conspiracy comes together and prosecutors use that in the wider case to build the record and show jurors how this all came to be. it wasn't something that just dropped out of the sky in 2016. >> one other point i want to make, there seems to be some drama with judge ellis and the prosecution, at one point the judge looked at greg andress, a member of the prosecutorial team, i understand how frustrated you are and in fact there's tears in your eyes right now. and saying he wasn't crying and the judge looks back at him and says, well --
>> we have not seen any of that behavior from judge ellis today. i wonder if it had to do with the media coverage of this tension from yesterday. up until today, there had been a lot of grumbling from people close to the prosecution that ellis wasn't being fair. he was really holding their feet to the fire trying to get them to rush through their case they felt, not letting him allow evidence. today we haven't heard a peep. i want to let you know i've been told that the prosecution has finished their questioning of gates and cross-examination will be happening this afternoon. also, a reference to donald trump, not being mentioned at the trial. there was a note in a manafort document that talked about season tickets to the yankees and this is from 2013 and the note said going to trump next week. that wasn't mentioned and put up on the screen. we all read it. wanted to let people know that happened. >> no doubt judge elis will be happy that the trial is moving on -- that the defense will get a chance to cross-examination
today. ken dilanian, thanks very much. >> coming up did don jr. commit a crime? ♪ when i touch you like this ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me. ♪ baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee's.
>> this is just another d distraction when again after two years of you know, nonstop investigation, with everyone in the media, everyone in the fbi, everyone in this -- whoever -- the whole world is looking at this and yet to produce anything that even remotely resembles what they've been talking about. and yet every other day, oh, my god, we've got it now. nouz the -- we got the needle in the haystack, i've been hearing this for two years. >> the president's son says all of the talk about the trump tower meeting is just a distraction. over the weekend the president publicly confirmed that the purpose of the meeting was to get information on an opponent. trump insisted though it was totally legal and done all the time in politics. but is it? a piece in the "new york times" explores potential legal pitfalls for don jr. joining me now, the author of that piece and "new york times"
washington correspondent charlie savidge, known as nbc contributor and white house reporter jonathan la mere, also an msnbc political analyst. charlie, you talk about a lot of potentialities and ways don jr. could run afoul of the law. depending on how the grand jury interprets the facts for the special count, robert s. mueller iii gathered about the two trump towers meeting it could find the foreigners elected the federal complain election act and don jr. conspired in that offense. what do you think he's most at risk for, charlie? >> well, there's a variety of different laws that ban foreign assistance to campaigns. not just the provision of that assistance but even promises to provide such assistance or requests to provide such assistance even if it never actually materialized. some of those laws under the federal election campaign act have never actually been used to
prosecute someone. so the one that i think is most interesting is a related one called conspiracy to defraud the united states which means to prevent the government from carrying out one of its legally assigned duties and we've already seen this surface in the mueller investigation when special counsel mueller obtained the grand jury indictment of 12 russians and three russian organizations in february for the covert campaign to manipulate american social media, to help the trump campaign in 2016, the first charge he brought against them was conspiracy to defraud the united states specifically to prevent the federal election commission from carrying out his duty to keep americans informed about money and campaigns and who is supporting what candidates and prevent foreign assistance to domestic political campaigns. since that charge has already surfaced in this very context, i think if i were on donald trump
jr.'s legal team, that's the one i would be most concerned about. as well as a related charge potentially of lying to congress when he told the senate judiciary committee last september that he was unaware of any other foreign government offering to help the trump campaign when we know he was talking to people representing saudi arabia and united arab emirates and their desires to help the trump campaign. >> i do also believe that conspiracy to defraud the united states was one of the superse superseding indictments for paul manafort as well. it could have come up twice. the president and don jr. have said this is all political opposition research. john, that's their defense, everybody does this. this is nothing new. also, nothing came of it. >> right. they are shifting the definition of what collusion is. we keep hearing president say over and over again no
collusion. that's not actually the crime. there's conspiracy and all of the others you just listed there. what we're seeing here is that a pretty concerted effort to change the talking point from the president himself to his allies and rudy giuliani, et cetera, where they are saying, look, maybe there was this meeting but nothing came of it. no information was delivered and therefore nothing was really wrong or illegal. and that of course is sort of treacherous legal ground. this is a concern for this white house and people close to the president. we have heard now for over a week that the president despite his public denial on twitter the other day is brooding over this, stewing over the possibility that his son could be in real legal jeopardy, even if he didn't know he was breaking the law, he still may have. watching manafort trial, which is like on cable all the time and it's from a visible reminder of robert mueller. even though it isn't about russia, it's connected to mueller and trump has told people around him he feels like the next person he sees go on trial might be his son.
there's great concern there and we've seen that manifest itself in these very tweets from the president in recent days. >> the president will often quote people on fox to develop his own arguments and repeat what they say. andrew nepal tan no is often one of those people but just today he was not one of those who were parrotting the president's line on the trump tower meeting. listen to this. >> if there was an agreement to receive dirt on hillary from the russians even if the dirt never came, if those who agreed, at least one of them took some step in furtherance of the agreement, there is a potential crime for conspiracy. but it doesn't appear that the president was among them. >> charlie, do federal prosecutors and from your understanding of this piece you just wrote, does he have -- does he have a point? >> what andrew nepal tan no was describing was the classic crime
of conspiracy, when two or more people agree to commit some other crime and take minor step toward that, that that point they already committed the crime of conspiracy, even if they never fulfill their plan to carry out some other crime, like you and i agree to rob a bank and look at the bank to look at the security around it and never rob the bank, we've -- we're already guilty of that crime of conspiracy. that's what andrew is getting at when he was saying that it doesn't matter if no information was received because the crime of conspiracy at that point would already have been completed. >> or if you break into the bank and there's month money there, that could be something along those lines as well. and i would point to don jr. and that e-mail exchange with rob goldstone where he says that a woman from the russian government has dirt on hillary clinton. don jr.'s response in black and white in writing, was if it's what you say it is, i love it. jonathan lemir, charlie savage,
thank you very much. >> louis charles an immigrant from haiti, came to the u.s. on a fake passport in 1999, that offense was waived in 2011 and he was issued a green card. by all accounts he has been a model citizen, working long hours as a nursing assistant, carrying full-time for his adult daughter with severe disanlt. charles might get deported and he's not the only one. a new trump administration policy is now targeting the more than 20 million legal immigrants currently living in the united states. and nbc news national security reporter julia anzly joins us now. charles has a green card. how can he be deported if he has a green card? >> katy, i'm so glad we're drilling in on house is charl' story. he was a sympathetic character and the reason he could be deported even though he's a green carder two reasons, mainly, he wanted to become a u.s. citizen and last fall he
was denied that right. he thought that this would be a smooth thing. told me i thought everything in the country was fair and square, unlike where i come from in haiti. i thought since i have the green card i've been a model citizen, naturalization would be no problem. instead he was denied that because he had entered the country with a fake passport in 1989. despite the fact that had been waived. dhs is going back and readds jut indicating some of the decisions made under prior administrations. he could also be deported and not get his citizenship status because his daughter is disabled and as we reported in this story, there is a forthcoming policy change from the white house that would label anyone, any immigrant who has been using public assistance, even those here legally like louis charlgs fr charles from getting citizenship sore advancing status in any way. >> they are including obamacare in that, is that questionable because is obamacare considered
public assistance? it's federally mandated that you have that insurance. >> it's true. this is for people who are using the health marketplace exchange. and it does seem like a stretch but this law is very broad. this is a law from the 1800s that said the united states shouldn't have to take any immigrants who are likely to become a public charge. so really they are able to redefine that in a lot of ways. previously immigrants who are on cash assistance like social security, they did have a hard time becoming citizens. so that is not changing and already been the case. now they are expanding it to a place where even people who are using the marketplace through the obamacare exchanges, that would now be looked at like a social safety net. >> 20 million legal immigrants at risk. >> that's right. >> great exclusive reporting. come on with any new details you get. >> will do. thanks, katy. >> president trump has been pretty consistent about his
plan, build a big beautiful wall along the southern border of the united states. but a new report from the government accountability office indicates things may not go as smoothly as the president hopes. quote, by proceeding without key information, dhs faces an increased risk that the border wall system program will cost more than projected, take longer than planned or not fully perform as expected. i'm joined now by nbc news white house correspondent jeff bennett. i heard on the campaign trail over and over and over again, donald trump saying how good he was at getting projects in ahead of schedule and under budget. >> reporter: yeah. look, katy, this is pretty damaging for president trump's most coveted construction project the long promised southern border wall. you have a watchlog report saying the wall would blow through the budget and miss key deadlines and may not work as
planned. all tolled the dhs would probably waste billions of dollars. that's assessment from the gao. all because the department hasn't fully completed a cost and construction analysis. so here's what we know. we know u.s. customs and border protection tested eight prototypes. president trump visited them back in march. said each design would work better than existing fencing. but the thing to know about this report, you have the government accountability office saying that dhs agrees with its recommendations, agrees with its assessment that there needs to be tougher scrutiny. that said, i got the statement from dhs late last night and read part of it to you, after years of investment in a border wall system, we experienced a roughly 90% reduction in apprehensions in san diego and yuma sectors and americans deserve a secure border that keeps america safe and this administration is doing so by constructing the first border wall in a decade. you see there a statement that talks about how border walls can be effective but really nothing
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breaking news from the paul manafort trial, rick gates testimony for first time touched on his relationship -- i'm sorry his work and paul manafort's work on the trump campaign. ken, what are you hear sng. >> that's right, katy, we did not think this was going to come up and wasn't mentioned in opening statements that gates and manafort worked for the trump campaign. just now prosecutors asked gates a question about a december 2016 e-mail manafort sent about a chicago banker. manafort was recommending him for job as secretary of the army. it became obvious because reference to an inaugural committee ticket we have talking about the president. he testified he worked for the donald trump campaign and
manafort had been the chairman. there was a visible reaction among the jurors. they know it now and it's going to be interesting -- >> the jury didn't know that? >> that had not come up at the trial. >> how does the jury not know paul manafort was a trump chairman? >> we weren't privy to the questioning of jurors but the idea is they aren't supposed to have preconceived notions. they know now and steven caulk, the chicago banker, paul manafort is accused of defrauding his bank. there's a question why he was recommending this guy for a job who had loaned him $16 million. that was not part of his testimony but it's in court documents and it may come up at a later point in the trial. >> very interesting. ken dilanyan. thanks very much. >> content from spreader and
alex jones who argued 9/11 was an inside job has been removed from a number of prominent outlets including facebook, i tunes and spotify and youtube. accused of jones of violating hate speech and a fraud. few reasonable people would be upset to see him go. but in an age where extremism and outlandish conspiracy theories flourish online, some prominent voices are wondering where to draw the line between free expression and censorship. with me now, will sumert, tech and internet reporter for the daily beast. will, this goes beyond alex jones being somebody that's banned. this is about -- there's qanon theorists who are calling hollywood celebrities pedophiles. there's pizzagate, there's white
nationalism, extremism, all of that stuff. why does it behoove a social media company -- or what are the pitfalls for a social media company to decide to draw the line? >> sure. i mean, this is clearly an issue that facebook and apple and youtube have dealt with for a long time. and, you know, eventually, once apple made its move on monday, facebook and youtube decided to follow suit. they have been previously very reluctant to take action against alex jones and info wars. on one hand, i think these platforms are very reluctant to seem like they're biased against people on the right, or conservatives, even someone like alex jones. on the other hand, you have someone who's using these platforms to promote harassment and harassment campaigns against families, as sandy hook victims, naming the wrong shooter in parkland. stuff like that. and so then, it becomes an issue for the platforms, less about politics, and about harassment, hate speech, and potentially the promotion of violence. >> david was arguing that what they should have done is just
not use hate speech, as a reason to ban alex jones, david french, the conservative columnist, but rather, that he was afoul of the law, more specifically. he wanted to argue -- he thought that they should argue that he is being charged with libel as opposed to something as wiggly as hate speech, which can be defined in all sorts of way. >> libel and slander are more serious, for sure. and they're more -- >> so legal definition. >> yeah, you can put your finger on it. there's a twitter account that i'm sure that you treasure that came to prominence in the 2016 campaign called the sweet meat your of death, where the whole concept was like, you know, this election is so terrible, there will be the sweet release of the media coming down and blowing us all up. it was banned for 12 hours today, because the new twitter rules are like, i don't know, you're propagating, you know, hate speech and violence against people for the sweet meteor of death. so you know -- hate speech, what is it? it doesn't really have a firm legal definition. it kind of doesn't even really exist in our legal community right now.
i think what you see, and of course, all of these social media platforms have the right legal right to absolutely ban the loathsome toad that is alex jones, there's no question about that. the question for me more is, what is our culture of free speech right now? we have great constitutional protections for free speech, but if the culture for free speech is sick, which i think it is right now, i just think it is, then constitutionally, 10 years, 20 years down the road, we might be in a rough place. >> hold on, facebook, youtube, spoti spotify, et cetera, are not the government. they're private companies. democratic senator chris murphy tweeted as much. and don jr. took his tweet and accused him of a censorship campaign. it's really all about purging conservative media. and i want to push back on that a little bit. this idea that it's conservative media. this effort to lump alex jones in, with conservative media. alex jones is not a conservative. alex jones is a liar. alex jones is a conspiracy
spreader. he's not someone saying that i believe that the tax policy that president obama put in place wasn't a good policy. it's not somebody saying, i want smaller government. >> right, but when you have these platforms now going off and being hypersensitive, under political pressure, social pressure, journalistic pressure to go after the bad guys, they are going to make some mistakes. and scott horton, a good journalist and anti-war guy, he was banned for twitter from a day, i think it was, recently, as part of this kind of net. i think that's the broader point that people are making. and i think the thing that we should all think about is, are we going on twitter and spending our time trying to de-platform somebody from one of these things? trying to get them un-hired from "the new york times" or msnbc or anywhere else like that? that's not a healthy culture. >> but msnbc can fire me any day. it's a private company. they're under no obligation to keep me employed. >> i totally agree with that. and it's my platform, i might very well kick off alex jones. but it's the rest of us that i'm kind of more worried about right now than facebook and the rest of them. are we going first to the ban
hammer? >> broader culture of intolerance for dissent vugiews. >> yes, when you disagree with someone's rhetoric, are you trying to get them fired. thank you both very much. ever wonder what mike pence is thinking when he stares adoringly at president trump like that right there? well, me might have just found out. one more thing is next. introducing e*trade personalized investments professionally managed portfolios customized to help meet your financial goals. you'll know what you're invested in and how it's performing. so you can spend more time floating about on your inflatable swan. [ding]
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there's a phone numbfunny thing words, especially when you write them down and publish them for all to see. they get recorded. they get cataloged, and they get saved. like these recently unearthed writings by vice president mike pence. quote, if you and i fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employers, and our friends. the president of the united states can incinerate the planet. seriously, the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the chief executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous. but it doesn't end there. quote, the president's repeated lice to the american people in this matter compound the case against him as they demonstrate his failure to protect the institution of the presidency. leaders affect the lives of families far beyond their own private life. no, mike pence, is not talking about his boss or his cohort, president trump here, he wrote these columns in the late '90s, as a conservative radio host,
running for congress. his comments were aimed directly at president bill clinton, amid the monica lewinsky scandal. and if these comments prove anything, it's that hypocrisy in politics is alive and well. that will wrap things up for me this hour. kasie hunt is back with us for the 3:00. kasie, i don't know what mike pence is thinking when he stares adoringly at the speak as the president speaks, but i wonder if any of that is going through his head? >> reporter: let's just say that some of the behavior that we have, has been alleged against this president, is not necessarily anything that the mike pence that i have covered for many years would have ever approved of. katy, it's nice to see you. >> you too. >> iam kasie hunt in for ali velshi. rick gates, former trump deputy campaign manager, and manafort's longtime business partner, has just concluded his testimony and for the first time in the trial, we're hearing about manafort's
worst this summer. month to month prices grew 0.3%. this is stillin place and prices are rising but not rising as quickly as they had about. and when you dig into the core deflator which is what the fed looks at, that is showing signs of cooling. so we like to say the trend is your friend and put this one in your inflation -- >> i don't make funny. i praise that kind of rule of thumb. because it is right. watch the trend line and the trend line we just showed the graphic, put up again, it doesn't show it having peaked. is it starting to show it goes down. >> it is. it is put this one in the category of inflation of showing signs of peaking. there is still a lot of work to do which is why the fed will continue to raise interest rates. you talked about the fed chief moderating the pace of increase, that means there wouldn't be monster month and month big rate increases, something more moderate, that still means
>> investigators have located ten additional victims, nine of whom said mr. buck administered drugs to them or strongly encourage them to ingest narcotics as part of an agreement to be compensated for services. >> to other survive. when escaped, as you mentioned, from a running chainsaw. the feds alleged buck killed more by overdose, and despite a similar deflator, testimony, journal entry, naming buck as a dealer, the d.a. refused to prosecute. she said it was for lack of evidence. >> retraced on every single lead from our standpoint. it wasn't till this victim came forward, who is a hero, that we are able to make the case. >> so buck's attorney says the former fashion model will fight these charges vigorously. he faces the federal charge, and several politicians have given back their campaign donations to
there is an invasion going on right now. if we look at the february numbers, we've got a historic number of people trying to get into this country illegally. this is an emergency. leland: were not going to make this an immigration panel. it brings up the important point that whether or not -- you talked to people in the rust belt. he talked to unemployed workers in ohio and indiana. deflator is an invasion and open borders is a real problem. >> it's an invasion of robot and not a nation. that's exactly what happened here. when it comes down to facebook. >> when you talk to folks. i want to get to this point quickly. so much of what jeff has done a talked about on this program is what's happening in venezuela. the socialist experiment there that has ended and humanitarian disaster disputable to the
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