it was different to see what was going on. i did not get the impression for 60 years or so, people had been predicting the eventual demilz. at some point, the country was going to topple. the communist regime would go down. i saw no indications of that. i saw a lot of poverty, a poor country. harsh economic conditions. lack of electricity. you go to a huge building. may be heat in one room where there s a meeting going on. the rest of the rooms, it s cold. you have to wear your coat you. go to schools or the university. i went to the main university. the students are well kressed but all wearing overcoats and they re all it s cold in ther there. you drive outside of pyongyang, we were driving through the country side.