of the guard coming in south africa, the anc s decline is terminal. it s just a matter of how fast, did you really believe that? of course i believed it then. i think it s a fair assessment about where the anc find themselves in the last local government elections, in 2021, they, for the first time in post democratic south africa, lost their majority and fell below 50%. this obviously allied with the fact that our economy s not growing, we ve got 30 million people living in poverty, 12 million people unemployed, and loadshedding, rolling blackouts, which have reached into every home and switched off the lights, switched off our factories, and switched off our economy. south africans are realising that if they don t change the way they vote, south africa is going to end up in a very, very dark place, and it s going to be poverty and inequality deepening. well, in that bleak context that you ve just outlined, with the unemployment, what they call here loadshedding , the rol
the anc has been damaged by economic stagnation, a protracted energy crisis, and massive inequality. my guest today is the leader of the biggest opposition party, the democratic alliance, john steenhuisen. could he become south africa s first white leader since apartheid? john steenhuisen, welcome to hardtalk. great to be with you, stephen. well, it s great to be here in cape town. let s start with a very simple question. when you said not so long ago, there is a changing of the guard coming in south africa, the anc s decline is terminal. it s just a matter of how fast, did you really believe that? of course i believed it then. i think it s a fair assessment about where the anc find themselves in the last local government elections, in 2021, they, for the first time in post democratic south africa, lost their majority and fell below 50%. this obviously allied with the fact that our economy s not growing, we ve got 30 million people living in poverty, 12 million people une
my guest today is the leader of the biggest opposition party, the democratic alliance, john steenhuisen. could he become south africa s first white leader since apartheid? john steenhuisen, welcome to hardtalk. great to be with you, stephen. well, it s great to be here in cape town. let s start with a very simple question. when you said not so long ago, there is a changing of the guard coming in south africa, the anc s decline is terminal. it s just a matter of how fast, did you really believe that? of course i believed it then. i think it s a fair assessment about where the anc find themselves, in the last local government elections, in 2021, they, for the first time in post democratic south africa, lost their majority and fell below 50%. this obviously allied with the fact that our economy s not growing, we ve got 30 million people living in poverty, 12 million people unemployed, and loadshedding, rolling blackouts, which have reached into every home and switched off the
it s 4:00. we ve got news we have a behind the scenes legal battle with potentially major consequences for the justice department s investigation into the ex-president s handling of classified documents at mar-a-lago the washington post is reporting this quote, a federal judge has at least partially granted a request from u.s. prosecutors to force an attorney for donald trump to testify before a grand jury about the former president s possession of classified documents after leaving office that s according to two people briefed on the decision. evan corcoran had refused to answer investigators questions about his interactions with trump. prosecutors sought to show the chief u.s. guess strict judge beryla.howell of washington that there were grounds of a crime-fraud exception. they spoke anonymously because this is under seal this breaking news is is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends jackie alamany is here her by-line is on that neil is here
thank you for joining us. right now, more than two dozen states and 65 million people are on alert as a powerful winter storm hits coast to coast. conditions are slamming flagstaff, arizona, and this man was barely able to stand as the wind gusts whipped the binding snow around him. in 29 states they are in the path for this storm. the snow warnings stretching to southern california. flakes even possible on los angeles beaches. and in utah, miles and miles of dicey driving. you can see cars stranded as crews worked to clear the roads. in minnesota the national weather service is warning of historic snow possibly the most in decades. meteorologist jennifer gray is standing by for us. but first, cnn s adrian brodas is in minnesota. what s happening where you are there? i see some really ice eye streets behind you. reporter: there s a break right now when it comes to snowfall. the plows have been moving along this stretch of highway behind us. but we saw the first phase of thi