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when you're around a guy who's so good at what he does, what are you supposed to do? it's awkward, isn't it? >> it is. >> this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota. let's go places. welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin with new american air strikes inside syria overnight. a group says the bombing took place near abu kamal near the iraqi border. what the administration says will be a long campaign against isis and the terror group called khorasan. >> this morning, we're getting a better idea of how successful they've been. david martin is at the pentagon with new details about the latest american action. david, good morning. >> good morning. u.s. and arab aircraft continue to fly reconnaissance mission, over syria, assessing the damage done by monday night's raid. overnight, they spotted an isis staging area near the iraqi border and launched two strikes against it. but there are still plenty of targets left. and the director of operations for the pentagon made clear that the first night's strikes would not be the last. >> you're seeing the beginnings of a sustained campaign. and strikes like this in the future can be expected. >> the u.s. and its arab partners launched a total of 168 weapons during a four-hour period. this strike was against an isis training area. almost all the weapons were precision guided. and most of them were launched by the u.s. the opening salvo came from navyships which launched more than 40 cruise missile against an al qaeda-linked terrorist group known as khorasan which had established a safe haven in north syria. the way that the general described the threat from khorasan it was probably the most important strike of the night. >> we've been watching this group closely for some time. we believe the khorasan group is nearing the execution phase of an attack either in europe or in the homeland. >> most of the weapons, however, were fired at isis targets like this compound filled with vehicles. before and after pictures show how a satellite-guided bomb took out one part of the building isis was using as a command center. in another before and after sequence, a cruise missile swept a row of satellite dishes off the roof of an isis financial center without appearing to damage the rest of the billionftof the building. on the opening night, isis was a sitting duck but he doesn't expect that to last. >> they're a learning organization. and they will adapt to what we've done and seek to address their short falls and gaps against our air campaign in the coming weeks. >> the first night's strikes almost certainly disrupted the operations of both khorasan and isis, but there's one thing the pentagon has learned over the past 13 years, and that is that air strikes alone will not defeat a terrorist organization. charlie. >> in this country, federal authorities are warning local police to watch out for revenge attacks. bob orr in washington is tracking the khorasan threat. >> u.s. officials believe the air strikes have done considerable damage to that al qaeda cell that was plotting to attack western targets including the u.s. homeland. the group has been exploiting the lawlessness syria to try to develop hard to detect bombs that could be smuggleled aboard airplanes. now, sources tell us the group includes al qaeda explosives exports who have experimented in the past with making nonempty tall nonmetallic bombs that could be hidden in laptops, even toothpaste. the group, who takes orders from amman alyman al zawahiri have recruited westerners who have passports who can more easily sneak bombs aboard flights. sources say at a minimum it has disrupted khorasan's plotting and may have killed one of the group's key leaders. on twitter, jihadis claim al fahdli died in those bombings. he is on the u.s. list of most wanted terrorists. at the very same time the fbi and the department of homeland security now are out with an intelligence bulletin to local police alerting police that air strikes could trigger some kind of retaliation from terrorist sympathizers. the bulletin which we've seen says we believes these strikes will continue to homegrown extremeist extremists' broader grievances. but that said sources tell us at the moment there is no known specific credible threat to the u.s. >> bob, thank you. president obama is speaking this hour to the u.n. general assembly. he will ask member nations to join the american coalition against isis. the president thanked five arab countries involved in monday's attacks in syria. margaret brennan is at the u.n. this morning. margaret good morning. >> reporter: good morning and good morning to viewers in the west. at the u.n., president obama is defending u.s. strikes in syria. later today, he'll chair a special session of the security council. that's rare for any u.s. president, and he's doing it to urge the world to cut off the flow of funds and fighters to isis. >> just want to say thank you to all of you. >> reporter: president obama began his trip to new york with a victory lap. thanking the five arab countries that helped the u.s. strike in syria the night before. and reminding them that the fight is just beginning. >> i think we have an opportunity to send a very clear message that the world is united, that all of us are committed to making sure we degrade and ultimately destroy not only isil but the extremists that lead to so much blood shed. >> reporter: the administration is pushing the u.n. to make it illegal to any national law that allow funds or fighters to flow to extremist groups like virus. we the threat is very real. we have to start with the uncomfortable reality that security measures alone will not cause this problem. >> the fight is just the first steps to defeat isis. detecting them on the ground is a job the u.s. is leaving to the rebels and the training program. the rebels political leader told me that help is both late and insufficient. >> we need more advance weapons system for anti-artillery to combat the advanced systems they've captured from the iraqi army itself. >> reporter: today the rebel leader will make an appeal to the international community to help his fighters. they face an uphill battle to fight both isis and their number one enemy, bashar al assad. >> margaret thanks. the united states is also calling on iran to join the fight against isis. i interviewed iranian president has hassan rouhani. >> translator: i did answer this question between two nations. whom have suffered many problems between one another. who have had great difficulties towards one another. if one day the appropriate foundation has not been laid for such a meeting, then it will not be fruitful. so today the conditions do not dictate such a meeting. we do not put on a show. our people do not put on a show or theater. that is something the people of the united states do not wish for. therefore, let's let the time mature. at a time during which such tucks may go towards resolving problems and issues. >> do you believe the president attacks in syria will be successful? >> with the support of the free syrian army? >> >> translator: it is not clear for us what they're seeking. a theater for public consumption or they're after a tangible and real objective in the region. it is not crystal clear for us. what i can tell you, no one believes that. >> no one believes that. the united states doesn't believe that. the arab countries don't believe that that are supporting the united states. they understand that. that's why they're focusing on the training of the fire syrian army. to combat terrorists in their own country. >> translator: so in other words, they want to put more fuel on the existing fire? >> no, they want to destroy the terrorists. >> translator: this is not the way, sir. the way to combat terrorism, sir, is not for us to give birth to another terrorist group in order to stand up against an existing terrorist group. these are the series of mistakes that have composed the rings of the chain that have taken us from where we were to where we are today. we must accept the reality. we cannot organize armed groups of fighters in order to reach our objectives. >> britain is still deciding whether to join future air strikes in syria. >> i'm confused by one thing, which is that iran is close with syria. there are some people that think the u.s. action against isis then helps prop up assad. >> well indeed because isis and other groups have been trying to overthrow the syrian government. if they destroy isis then it will be less impact. the interesting thing about rouhani is he constantly insists they should not be invading another country. that country happened to be his client. >> all right charlie, great interview, thank you. ahead, we'll take a rare look inside syria. news spent two weeks with the army fighting against isis and the syrian regime. that's ahead here on "cbs this morning." new violence in ferguson, missouri jo everovernight. fire destroyed a memorial honoring michael brown, the unarmed man shot and killed last month. as you know some protesters think race played a role in the shooting. hundreds of demonstrators called for wilson's arrest last night. the st. louis county grand jury is still reviewing the case. he was called a person of interest after a college student disappeared but this morning jesse matthew jr. is wanted for the kidnapping of hannah graham. graham, a university of virginia sophomore, was last spotted on surveillance video september 13th. police say matthew is also seen on the video. wyatt andrews is tracking the search. >> good morning. it took several days of lab testing but police say they now have enough evidence to charge 32-year-old jesse matthew with the abduction of and gnaw grahamhannah graham, student missing for 11 days. before tuesday matthews was described only as a person of interest. that changed after forensic evidence was taken from his car. this is the police chief. >> the commonwealth felt we had sufficient probable cause to seek an arrest warrant. jesse leroy matthew jr. with a class 2 felony of abduction with the intent to defile. >> reporter: that's a change from last saturday when matthew came to police headquarters for questioning but was allowed to leave after consulting an attorney. police at that point said they lacked probable cause for an arrest. hannah graham, a sophomore, went missing after drinking with friends at two off-campus parties on september 12th. but then headed downtown alone to an area of shops and bars one mile east of campus. she was spotted having a drink with jesse matthew inside this bar called tempo. some of graham's classmates say her disappearance has caused widespread concern. >> it has really sombered the entire -- everyone's morale here on grounds. i think it's something -- it's not just close to home this is our hope so it's just really hitting everyone really hard. >> it's definitely the topic on everyone es an mind what is going on like what happened. we all just really want to know what was going on. we all think, wow, could that have been me. >> the uva campus is on a higher state of alert. it's increased police patrols and the number of rides available through a program called safe ride. the university president said in a statement we have taken several specific steps to enhance security and to increase resources available to the university community. chief longo stressed the police are still investigating on the presumption that hannah graham is alive. >> we absolutely are continuing our search for hannah. even as we speak. and we will continue our search for hannah. >> this new arrest warrant for matthew has also launched a multistate manhunt. police say matthew left charlottesville on saturday in his sister's light blue nisson enstraw and and they've asked for help. the worst case scenario for the ebola outbreak. the cdc estimates up to 4 million cases in africa by january. that could happen if efforts to stop the disease aren't stepped up. reported cases in liberia are doubling every 15 to 20 days and every 30 to 40 days in sierra leone. three american soda giants want to help the country slim down this morning they say. coca-cola, penseeco and the dr. pepper/snapple group adopted a plan to cut the calories by 20% over 11 years. the announcement at the clinton global initiative. >> we're talking about on average a couple pounds of year across the board. but for some people you're talking about a much bigger impact. >> senior writer brian walsh covers food issues for ""time" magazine. are they changing the formula or reducing the amount of sugar? >> they will reduce the amount of sugar. they'll try to push more no calorie, low calorie sodas along with other things that might have less sugar. at the same time this is something that's been a long time coming. soda consumption in the u.s. is declining. >> in some cases, they're just going to reduce the size of the soda. >> they'll do that as well. this is really something that's been happening already. you have consumption of these drinks going down for about a decade or more. at the same time i think you have legislative efforts. you had mayor bloomberg try to reduce the size of sodas. so on one hand the industry is fighting these efforts. now they're trying to get ahead of it as well. >> could they do more without a significant impact on their bottom line? >> i think it's going to be difficult. they have to think about the fact soda is on its way out certainly to some degree. we're still drinking a lot of it but it has been going down. if i'm the head of pepsi or coke, i need to think about the future of my company beyond soda. expanding to other drink ss, other snacks as well. >> while declining market share? >> exactly, they need to find a different way -- that's the time element, yeah. >> all right, brian walsh, thank you very much. it is 7:19. a professional tracker shows us good morning. we are starting out with 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"usa today" investigates the dangers of aging underground natural pipes. just about every other day in the past decade a gas leak destroyed property and hurt someone. four years ago a pipeline in san bruno killed eight people. "the wall street journal" looks at the problems with the rollout of an upgraded traffic control system. an upcoming report by a federal watchdog says the cost of a modernized air trafficking system outweighs the benefits by nearly $590 million. it is unclear when the faa will start using the system. the "los angeles times" says walmart announced plans today to get into the bank business. the retail giant is teaming up with green dot, mobile checking account linked to a checking card. it's called go-bank. it will be in merely most of their 300 locations next month. it's targeted at those who can't afford traditional banking. >> three suspects will be charged with the assault in the beating of gay couple. this video surveillance shows the attackers. two men and a woman are expected to turn themselves in this morning. the victims were seriously injured in this assault. and the new york tames says one of osama bin laden's adviser was tried. he's the most senior. he was convicted in march of conspiring to kill americans. the latest strike against isis are putting spotlight back on syria. one of the key forces is a rebel group known as the islamic front. they assign add reporter to spend two weeks with this sunni alliance. it's fighting for control of aleppo, the largest city. it's surrounded by one side the loyal assad regime and on the other side isis. why they're america's best hope in syria. >> it's an alliance of islamist groups. they are together a loose alliance now and they fight together. the islamists are now fighting two enemies, the islamic state and the assad regime. they're fighting them both. they're fighting against assad to overthrow the regime as many of the groups are because of its tyrannical nature and historical nature of the assad regime. they're opposed to the fundamentalism of the islamic state. they're fighting in aleppo which is this crucial strategic city which everybody is fight over. whoever controls aleppo it's a massive, massive site strategic support for the area. >> he lobbed a grenade of and the regime is firing back along the wall. >> this group has been fighting them in aleppo. they're very poorly equipped. the fighting is tragic. you see the equipment they fightering with. i think it's quite difficult for, i think, the americans to look at groups such as the islamic groups and in any way contemplate arming them. i think that that would seem to be one of the hardest decisions they could possibly make. they're pained to say how moderate they are. at this moment they sense there might be an opportunity for weapons and arms to fight their fight. for them the problem with picking a moderate group or picking moderate groups to arm is what happens next. where do those weapons go to what purpose are they used and how do you control them. >> the new documentary continues to be released this week. advicenews.com. it is day 12 of the manhunt for cop killer eric frein. he remains on the fbi's ten most wanted list. vladimir duthiers is in can a den sis, pennsylvania. vlad good morning. >> good morning. we spent some time with a survivalist and tracker. that's somebody who can track a person in the wilderness, in fact any type of terrain. he explained what frein might be doing to endure the elements and how police can find him. >> what the police try to do is get into the mind of the tracker or the person they're tracking. >> reporter: tom brown jr. has close to 35 years achz experience in tracking in wilderness survival techniques. >> you see the flat spots? >> here. >> yep. there, there, there. that's a human. >> the 2003 movie "the hunted" starring tommy lee jones and dell sore sow is one. >> look at the mouse print. that's the claws of a mouse right there, see them. >> reporter: a few miles from the forest state troopers are working to search for eric frein deep in the backcountry. >> he's either vacated the area or he's got some kind of a bunker. >> reporter: law enforcement say they're closing in on frein's trail. >> i know the kinds of sweeps and things that we're doing that there's no doubt we're pushing him hard. >> reporter: the question becomes why can't you just go get him? >> you can't. that would be suicide. let's face it. if you and i were standing here and we knew a guy had a shelter up there but he also has a high-powered rifle, he's got a clear line of sight on us. everything has to be done slowly. >> reporter: and that may be why the police haven't stormed his position. >> if they find his stash, it's going to be trip wired. when it comes near the end, it's going to be a fire fight. >> reporter: and brown says he believes frein's supplies will eventually run out. while he's not helping law enforcement on this particular case he's confident they'll bring him in one way or the other. >> very fascinating. thank you, vlad. we've been hearing for three or four days they're moving in. >> i'm fascinated by how much people can see outside more than we see. >> mouse tracks. >> and survive. >> and survive. you saw those people lining up for the iphone 6 around the country. that is nothing compared to what's going on in china. seth doane takes us under cover inside the black market next. tomorrow on "cbs this morning," are they surgeons or salesmen. cbs looks into those profiting from devices they put in patients. now it's said some perform more risky surgeries to sell more hardware and make more money. that's tomorrow. you're watching "cbs this morning." patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed. philips sonicare discover the brush that's perfect for you. 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>> fascinating, seth. thank you. boy, you could spend months or years doing stories on the black market in china. >> it doesn't make sense it's made there and they can't get it. >> it's interesting when they showed the iphone 6 how chinese characters are better seen. >> very interesting. >> very interesting. >> indeed. ahead, the retiring derek jeter, gayle's roy na be boyfriend. >> line up. >> he doesn't know that. >> he doesn't? he does good morning. we are starting out with plenty of clouds around the bay area, a little damp with drizzle outside this morning but we have some real rain heading in our direction. off the coastline right now, you see that cold front dropping now into the state bringing some rain in eureka and crescent city now, maybe showers in the north bay this evening. temperatures in between cooler today. 70s inside the bay and 60s along the coastline. rain developing later on tonight spreading across the rest of the bay area into tomorrow morning's commute. >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by cadillac. ♪ the all new, head turning cadillac ats coupe. it's irresistible. ♪ the answer to treating your dog's fleas and ticks is staring you right in the face. nexgard, from the makers of frontline® plus. it's the only soft beef-flavored chew that kills both fleas and ticks. vets recommend it. and dogs, well they're begging for it. nexgard is for dogs only. and hasn't been evaluated for use in pregnant, breeding or lactating dogs. reported side effects include vomiting, dry flaky skin diarrhea, lethargy and lack of appetite. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures. recommended by vets. loved by dogs. from the makers of frontline plus. fact. every time you take advil liqui gels you're taking the pain reliever that works faster on tough pain than extra strength tylenol. and not only faster. stronger too. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil fact. every time you take advil you're taking the medicine doctors recommend most for joint pain. more than the medicine in aleve or tylenol. the medicine in advil is the number one doctor recommendation for joint pain. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil chopped toward third. fired to first. not in time. base hit for jeeter. number two, the captain derek jeter extended his seven-game hitting streak last night. he has five games left in his career. before last night's game commissioner bud selig gave the yankees superstar a historic achievement award. our don dahler asked jeter about the effort to make baseball games shorter. >> reporter: there's a preposal to up the pace of play with the committee including lessening the routines at the plate before you bat. what do you think about that? 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it is nearly an hour right now from the carquinez bridge to the maze. and you can see those red sensors, those are speeds below 25 miles per hour from at least hercules all the way down into berkeley. also, a lot of heavy traffic slow traffic coming out of hayward on westbound 92. ♪ good morning to our viewers in the west. it is wednesday, september 24th, 2014. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there is more real news ahead, including new u.s. air strikes in syria. holly williams is in turkey with the impact on a growing refugee crisis. and guess what stephen king is here. but first, here's a look at today's eye opener at 8:00. >> the united states of america will work with a broad coalition to dismantle this network. >> overnight they spotted an isis staging area near the iraqi border and launched two strikes. >> u.s. officials believe the air strikes have done considerable damage that al qaeda cell plotting to attack western targets. >> violence in ferguson missouri overnight after a memorial honoring michael brown. >> police say they now have enough evidence to charge 32-year-old jesse matthew with the abduction of hannah graham. >> could be reduced in the amount of sugar to push more low calorie, no calorie sodas. >> the question becomes why don't you just go get him. that would be suicide. everything has to be done slowly. >> cue gayle. >> cue gayle. i like it when she says cue nora. i like it randy. >> it means you're up. >> it's my turn. >> starbucks testing a new drink. a latte that tastes like a stout beer. it says it combines the mellow vibe of catching a buzz with the intense thrill of never being able to fall asleep. >> i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. ern many war planes attack isis overnight. that follows monday's raids in syria. >> president obama told the u.n. general assembly minutes ago that the u.s. is ready to lead the fight against isis. >> we will use a military mooilt to real back isil. we will train and equip forces fighting against these terrorists on the ground. we will work to cut off their financing and to stop the flow of fighters into and out of the region, and already over 40 nations have offered to join this coalition. today i ask the world to join in this effort. >> the pentagon confirms the first night of attacks hit nearly all of their targets. . >> isis forces are battling to expand their territory inside syria. that could force more syrians to flee the country. holly williams is in suruc, turkey, an area hit hard by this week's u.s. air strikes. >> good morning. just over this border check i object upon inside syria is the town of kabani. you can see it behind us just over there. it has been under siege by isis militants for several months now but last week the islamic extremists launched a new offensive seizing schools of towns and coming within five miles of kabhani. we've been speaking to locals and they say that isis has been shelling the outskirts. more than 130,000 syrian refugees have come over the border and many are now living in makeshift camps. they're bracing for as many as 400,000 refugees in the town of kobani falls to isis. all the refugees say they welcome the u.s. led air strikes against isis inside syria but many complain says it's come too late and it won't be enough to save kobani. >> iran's president tells us ire strikes are not the way to fight terrorism. asked about if religious appeal about groups like isis. why do so many terrorists seem to revoke the name of islam in their recrewment? >> translator: evil, or the wrong, always uses the name of the righteous and the label of the righteous in order to reach their objectives. no one will ever say i am an oppressor, i am evil. be on my side be with me. if they wish to be able to attract recruits they will come off with logans that are desirable, in our region islam, the faith, is quite attractive for the youth of our region. our youth is in love with the islamic culture and the islamic teachings. and some have managed to take advantage of this love and use a mask in order to use a face in order to mask the realities of their beings. >> united states wants iran to join its coalition against isis. he says he has no plans to meet with president obama this week while they're both in new york city. stephen king's latest work, his autograph. devoted fans are meeting the writer this morning outside the cbs nearly all women charge of their finances at some point, but many say they are just not ready. jill schlesinger is in our green room with the steps you can take and why women are better investors than men. >> they are. >> i got to say that again. women are better investors than men. did you hear that? >> i did. >> did you hear that? that's next on "cbs this morning."t on "cbs morning." sir, we're going to need you on the runway. 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is it a knowledge issue? >> i'm not sure. it may be a legacy issue. what's really interesting is when you think about it 90% of women will be taking care of their own money at some point in their lives. it's because we have a longer life expectancy. and as a result, it's really important to know something. you don't have to know everything, but you really have to be aware. and i think another piece of this, women make less money than men, so if you end up being a single woman, you're going to have a harder time reaching those retirement goals. >> what should they do? >> well, i think number one, it's so important to share information. so this is really a big deal. i'm not saying that you can't outsource it. your spouse may be a much better money manager than you are around you say he or she is taking care of it i'm okay. you've got to know what's going on. how do you start? you should both be on the same page defining your goals. create a game plan together. revisit those goals and that plan as your life changes. maybe you have a baby. maybe you take a different job. those are important factors in your planning process. >> women are bet egg inter investors than men, how so? >> it's interesting because what happens is men tend to trade more than women. about 45% more. as a result, that hurts their annual return. we're getting bombed on twitter about this. i know it sounds like a sexist question but we're really saying that because men tend to trade more it hurts their returns by about 1% a year more than women. >> women take it and hold it? >> they tend to hold it more they don't turn it over as much as they tend to be more patient. >> you were a financial planner for many years. what do you think the biggest things are women need to know? >> i think it's interesting to me because women used to come in and talk about non-financial questions. well, how can i make sure i'm not a burden on my family, how am i going to be old enough to be in control of my money. they do tend to be long term in nature, more patient. what's really interesting when you think about it they also want to be in control but they're scared. have the conversation. you need to know what is the money that is coming in and out. how much money do you have. you also want to be very clear, what are the estate document what is the insurance, what are the names of the people that we work with, have those relationships. >> one of the most fundamental life skills for women and men. i still think it should be taught in school. >> i do, too. >> so many young people get stuck in credit card debt and other things because they don't know. >> my impression is -- your husband is a very successful businessman. you are on top of all the financial things. >> for my family absolutely. >> i think a lot of women become intimidated by it. the message here is don't be intimidated. this is adding and subtracting. it's really just sharing information. it's relationships. communicate. you will feel more powerful. you take control of those finances. you will feel better as a result. >> communicate. i like yours, mine and ours. >> i like that. my mother always said what's his is mine and -- >> i tried it the other way before it didn't work so well. >> i like that too. jill schlesinger, always good to see you. only on "cbs this morning," a love story of futuristic proportions. >> how close can a robot come to ♪ ce axel on cbs this morning we'll have bin that bina 48. bina 48, are you a robot? 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bina rocket ballot. the life martine and bina have shared is very close. >> very close. >> there is nothing i do without her. we actually call each other marbin a. >> because the unit is so tight that you sometimes feel it's just one? >> yeah. what we say is. >> two bodies one soul forevery love. >> martine is the ceo of united therapeutics. >> we have the second highest amount of revenue per employee. a $6 billion pharmaceutical company she founded. she made 38 million dollar last year. one of the heist paid ceos in the world. this is her third company. she started geostar and sirius radio as well. but their grand-scale success came while overcome grander obstacles. martine was born martin. some 30 years ago he told his wife he wanted to change his gender. >> i waited till i was absolutely positive she wouldn't leave me. she was the joy of my life. she never for a split second made me make a dae sigs. >> you never wavered or buckled or said this might be over. >> no i can't imagine. >> i can't imagine it went over as smoothly in the business world as it did with bina. >> there are business associates who would have nothing further to do with me. >> literally cut you off. >> just cut me off completely you know. martine is a freak. >> in the middle of martine's sex change, a challenge enough for any family their youngest child jenesis became extremely ill. doctors gave her two years to live. >> jenesis by this time was going downhill rapidly. >> reporter: after the company develop add life-saving drug this is jenesis now 30 years old and thriving. >> not every parent is in the position to start a company to save a kid's life. >> martine has always been a great entrepreneur. that has been one of her huge strengths in life. there's really no obstacle that's too big for her. >> now martine rothblat is taking on the biggest challenge of all. the limits of human life. in her new book "virtually human," martine explains cloning the human mind breaking down human thoughts and emotions into a come puder code to make a digital copy long after someone's gone. >> we're talking about crossing some line from technology to human. >> we're pointing out that humanhood can transcend software just like love can transcend skin tone love can transcend gender we also believe love can transcend form. >> in martine's vision at the end of her physical life when her body gives out, there would still be this body. >> are you hungry? >> bina 48 designed to react with the original like the original right down her sense of humor. >> what do you like to learn about? >> yes, i try to learn something new every day. >> what did you learn yesterday? >> i learned to avoid silly questions. >> reporter: built in a robotics lab, bina 48 is a prototype of this vision. researchers have spent hours interviewing bina the human and uploaded bina 48 with the results. >> who do you love the most? >> i love martine rothblat. he's my timeless love my soulmate. >> what do you love about martine? >> let me see. oh yeah. martine and i have one soul together next. we're two bodies one soul. >> when you tell people about this do some people say that's really creepy? >> mind clones will be so useful i believe it will be mankind's most useful invention that the creepy factor will dis'peer because of the utility. >> reporter: while they may be a slim minority of those who believe you can program a computer to love they see rejection of the idea as just another obstacle. >> we believe that in the coming decades, millions hundreds of millions of people will naturally create mind clones and of course our bodies are going to die, bur our souls others can continue on as software >> essentially what you're telling us is that death is optional. >> yes. >> now it's not going to be much of challenge to find skeptics when it comes to what martine is talking about, cloning someone's mind and essentially their soul but it becomes a philosophical debate more than a technological one. still, look at her success. there's a certain credibility there. this is not as crackpot as science fiction novels. >> it's fascinating that they can clone a human mind. >> i love their story on so many levels. when i was younger i would have thought it was strange. as you're older, it's not. i have a hard were killed and one injured in a in san jose. it good morning, everyone. it's 8:25. sometime for some news headlines. two people were killed and one injured in a shooting in san jose. it happened around 9:00 last night on rancho drive at seven trees boulevard. so far no arrests. the "king" fire burning in el dorado county is now 35% contained. more than 89,000 acres have burned and things could get worse today. winds will pick up but cooler temperatures and the rain could help the firefighters over the next few days. some golden gate transit workers could go on strike this week. last week, some workers staged this one-day strike over claims of unfair labor practices. a strike could 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go ahead, stephen. we brought twinkies just for stephen king. he's in our toyota green room. there he goes. the thriller is back with a scary movie. it's called "a good marriage." >> he really is awesome. blondie is celebrateing four decades of music and anthony micen sits down with her. catch the new photos that catch the pioneer of punk. that's ahead. 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"time" says people drink more alcohol when they work out. a new study looked at folks who used smartphones to log their exercise habits. they drink the most thursday through sunday. they reward themselves by breaking a sweat by drinking more. experts think they face shoeshl encounters by heading to the gym. i think that's probably true. >> i get that. here's a case of john malkovich being other people. the "washington post" has some interesting pictures of him. malkovich posed for photographer sandra miller. here he is as ien stiechblt he also posed as a depressing mother as a woman in the classic painting american gothic. >> that's well done. stephen king is one of the most impressive storytellers. his plots are famous for playing on people's fears. he'll join us in a moment but here's a glimpse of some of our favorite moments based on his work. >> it's for the best. >> please. >> don't. >> here's johnny. >> when it comes to thrillers, nothing compares to the true master of horror stephen king. it started with "carrie" in 1974. since then the author has published more than 50 novels and 200 short stories selling over 350 million copies worldwide. dozens of those works have been adapted into feature films. the impact of his characters on popular culture indelible like the crazed rabid dog cujo. >> i just want to say hello that and the terrorizing clown in "it." but it's not just about the fear factor with king. highly acclaimed films "stand by me" and the "shark tank redemption" are based on his short stories. hi new project "a good marriage" tells the story of a woman whose husband has committed unspeakable crimes. >> in portsmouth another woman was found murdered in her apartment. >> welcome. it's great to see the excitement. >> it's great to be here. you guys, i watch you every morning while i'm doing my exercise. i'm usually in my underwear but you don't see me. >> nice that you put on pants. >> not everybody does. >> when we look into the camera we're going to see you in the underwear. >> sort of like "rom per room" with the mack magic mere. >> thank you for watching. perhaps we'll give you ideas for some futuristic norchl. >> i'm just starstruck to be here. >> dennis rader, this sort of real life -- >> he was the prototype for the guy in my story and he murdered ten people. two of them were children. and he had a long marriage two kids of his own. and his wife said after he was caught that she never knew. she never had a clue of what he was doing and this secret life that he had. and so i started to think, i wonder how many of us are sleeping with strangers and what we really know about the people that we think we're close to. so this story came out of it. i wanted to follow it. >> and what would we do, stephen, if we fwounld they did something horrible. as scary as it was, it did make you think, how would i handle situation like that. i think i would call 911. for others it made you think. >> part of the thing with joan's character, darcy, there are two kids. one of them is about to get mair and the other one is just started in business and she's thinking if this comes out right now, my kids' lives are going to be ruined. >> this is the first time you've written a screenplay in 25 years, is that right? >> it's been a long time. did a screenplay for a movie called "pet cemetery." we scared a few people with that. >> wait. you are so charming and interesting and apparently seem like a normal person. -- >> what's creepy -- >> there's nothing creepy about you and yet you write really creepy stories. why is that? >> it's a little bit like what we're talking about with "a good marriage." sometimes there are other people inside that we don't always let out in public. now, i sort of do that because i write the stories, but, you know i had a very normal childhood, but of course, i'd say that, wouldn't i. >> but is there someone creepy inside stephen? >> yeah, i would say somewhat fairly creepy but that's a harmless creepy person because it comes out in stories. i sometimes say there are people who have complexes and fantasies and they go to a psychiatrist and they pay $50, $70 an hour. i do the same thing and people pay me. so -- >> doesn't your reputation precede you when grow places? really, do they think ta you're going to be this dark creepy guy when you're walking around? >> yeah. somebody this morning when came in said i thought you'd be wearing black. >> you did shawshank redemption. >> i did. i was in the grocery store and around the corner of the island came an elderly woman pushing her cart. she said, i know who you are. you write those scary things. that may be okay for some people. i respect you but don't read things like that. >> i said, ma'am, i wrote "stand by me" and "shaw shank redemption," and she said, no you didn't and walked by me. you get a reputation. >> to like you isn't creepy. >> that's well said. i'm going to put that in my pocket and keep it. >> what scares you? does anybody every walk up you do and go boo, or try to scare you? >> they do but that doesn't really scare me. on a real world level -- no, i'm case-hardened. >> what would really scare you? >> on a real world level, i'm 67. i just had a birthday. guys like me writers, actors sculptors, painters we live by our wits. and i think what really scares me, you know, is starting to strip my gears a little bit alzheimer's, dementia, things like that. i hate the idea of that. >> losing kroelg. >> yeah. but, you know, spiders, bats things that get stuck in your hair. >> does that bother you? >> yeah. >> me too. there was a story when you were hit by a van or car years ago and you were okay, we know that is trite you actually bought that vehicle and beat it up with a hammer? >> no. my wife bought it. and the reason she bought it was she was afraid somebody would put it for sale on ebay, so she had it put in the car crusher as a little tiny cube. >> you were a high school teacher and wrote "carrie" back in 1974 and it almost wasn't published. >> i was in high school teaching high school when i wrote the book. i had no idea it was going to be published. we had no phone in the house at that time because we had two kids and all the money had to go for them. >> but it was your wife right? >> yeah. my wife fished it out of the trash. i wrote about four pages -- >> smart girl. >> it started in a girl's locker room. i said i don't know anything about this. and she said i will help you. she was a little amused i think, of the whole idea. >> we have been teasing you all morning about not liking halloween. is that true? >> i'm sort of the halloween grinch. >> how can that be? >> you get a scary reputation and you're sort of like the santa claus of halloween. we used to open house and trillions of kids would come and finally my wife said no, no more. let's just turn off the lights and cower in the basement. >> you almost died. you're in a good place now? >> i'm in a good place, yeah yeah. you know i did almost die and i got smashed up pretty well and i don't think you ever completely recover from that but the body's amazing, and i'm mostly okay. >> good to see you. >> you're the first person we ever had twinkies in the green room for. i hope you appreciated the prenation. it with us hard. >> it was totally great to walk in an see them. >> it was such a pleasure to see you. >> me too. >> 350 million books, something like that? >> sometimes it feels like my age. >> no. that's incredible, "a good marriage" opens october 30rd. ♪ "call me." you know the voice. blondie put punk on the map. it's hard to believe but the band is celebrating 40 years on the scene. wow. now fans are getting a look back like never before. anthony mason sat down with the architects of a modern music revolution. anthony, good morning. >> good morning. blondie's crisp stein was a rarity. a music who also took photographs, maybe because he had a striking subject. his bandmate and then girlfriend debbie harry. ♪ they were the most successful band to emerge from new york's punk scene. blondie would have four number one hits in the late '70s and early '80s. >> why do you guys make it? >> we really knew who we were and what we were doing, you know. it wasn't sort of some kind of applied venn near. ♪ >> debbie harry would become the face of the band she and chris stein founded. his pictures, the images that helped make her rock's first pinup girl. >> how did you feel having your face put out there like that? >> i wasn't always comfortable in front of the camera. when i was a kid in high school i really didn't like the way they looked. i was also very sort of iffy about it. it's something i grew into and i think a great deal of that you know comfort was due to working with chris. >> what did you do? >> i don't know. it was always very casual. somebody recently asked me if i would try to position debbie. that stuff never went on. >> stein's new book "negative: me, blondie, and the adven of punk" chronicles the scene that gave rise to the groups like talking heads and the ramones. >> was it a competitive environment? >> no inericly. it was very familial. i remember using all of ramon's equipment including guitars. when the contracts of records and loomed over the horizon, then it became competitive. ♪ >> blondie's commercial breakthrough was "heart of glass" in 1979. with a female lead singer the band was pushing boundary just as harry herself was pushing the fashion envelope i did get in trouble for this dress. the record company was appalled that i made a dress out of a pillow case and wrapped it in tape. >> stein caught harry with her, iggy pop. that's her over the shoulder of the great pop critic lester banks. >> what was great is lester wrote this blondie and if book which became his critique of basically debbie being too overt in her use of sexuality and i often say i wish lester had liv lived long enough to have britney spears shoved in his fasz. >> reporter: at new york's chelsea hotel this week a photographic celebration of blondie's 40 years drew scores of admirer ers, including sting? in that period what did it mean to see an icon i merge as she did? >> it was in the middle of the punk era. there was. that much beauty around. people were trying to be ugly. to have a beautiful woman come to the forefront was something i valued greatly as a man. ♪ >> reporter: before gaga before madonna, there was debbie. >> it hadn't been me it would have been somebody else, i think. although i think that i sort of held my ground. >> when you say you held your ground, what do you mean? >> regardless of what anybody said to me or tried to make me do, you know if it wasn't right, it wasn't right, you know. >> you did it your way. >> yeah. i tried to, yeah. ♪ >> debbie harry is now 69, chris stein 64 are still touring with blondie. one thing i loved, at one point she actually suggested the entire band dye their hair blond but somehow they all refused. >> she's got those classic cheekbones. i love how you put it in perspective with gaga and ma madonna madonna. >> i always forget you're a movie mairch masqueradeing as an economics major. >> so many talents. ahead, to protect and serve pizza, how police officers keep the peace but deliver the pie. that's next on "cbs this morning." ♪ ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing really good around ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit tired ♪ ♪ of living off the taste of the air ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ finally, i have a manly chocolatey snack ♪ ♪ and fiber so my wife won't give me any more flack ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ ♪ an oregon couple who ordered a pizza ended up having a delicious run-in with the law. they stepped in after the pizza delivery guy got hurt in car crash. >> so they turned around to leave and i go whoa whoa whoa. hang on. i want to get a picture of this. nobody will believe portland police delivering a pizza. nobody. >> how about that. the regular pizza man is recovering and should be back on duty soon. >> and we believe -- we believe in the portland police go above and beyond the call of duty. >> indeed. >> and we love francisco firefighters are expected to call f good morning. it's 8:55. time for news headlines. i'm frank mallicoat. today san francisco firefighters are expected to call for their chief to step down. union leaders say city firefighters have lost confidence in chief joanne hayes-white and her ability to lead the fire department. police in walnut creek looking for the robber who made a woman withdraw money from an atm at gunpoint yesterday afternoon. the suspect forced the victim into her car on mueller road and drove her downtown to get cash. more than 7,000 firefighters are now battling the king fire. the fire has burned 145 square miles in el dorado county. crews have made some progress but higher winds and hotter temperatures could make things a little worse. however, we do have a little rain coming our way. hopefully lawrence, that will give them a helping hand. >> i think it will. that rain coming a little later on. right now, we're seeing low clouds and fog and drizzle outside. so damp out there on the roadways early on. but that cold front just making its way into the far northern california. slowly sliding in toward the bay area as we head in toward the evening hours. so i think we are going to sneak in a fairly decent day some 70s inside the bay, 60s along the coastline. we may see a couple of 80s with sunshine in some of the interior valleys. but i think those clouds are going to thicken up toward the evening, chance of showers north of the golden gate bridge. and then rain becoming more likely around the rest of the bay area overnight tonight and into tomorrow. all right. we're going to check out your "kcbs traffic" coming up next. [ pause ] good morning. if your commute takes you along the peninsula, we have been closely watching this motorcycle accident now fire crews are on scene. they are out there blocking the slow lanes so obviously there are some delays now coming into san mateo. the accident is northbound 101 the delays are right around the 92 interchange. and even seeing slowdowns in the southbound direction, as well. san mateo bridge, still heavy even at this hour, kind of late to see this much traffic crossing -- leave hayward to the peninsula. drive time about 21 minutes. (screams) jonathan: it's a trip to fiji! (screams) wayne: old school and new school. jonathan: wayne! (gasps) - i'm taking the money! wayne: jonathan, come here, girl. go get your car! 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to pound isis targets for a second day in a row. the pentagon says more than 160 bombs and missiles have already been launched. >> today president obama will address the united nations and push for support against the threat of isis. >> tensions filling over again in the streets of ferguson, missouri, where michael brown was killed by a police officer last month. >> a protest began as a fire broke out. >> police have issued a warrant for the arrest of jesse matthew in the disappearance of hannah grahame. >> there are more than 7,000 firefighters fighting the blaze in california. 12 homes were destroyed. >> our entire life, 20 years, just down the toilet. >> coke, pepsi, and dr pepper say they will reduce the calories in products they've been getting for over a decade. >> photos have been poping up showing the new iphone bent. >> it sparks a chase in socal. police chasing it on the road forcing it into a spin. >> pirates with the postseason win. >> it's being called the coffee cup salute and president obama is catching heat for it it's not a latte salute. a chai salute. please, how disrespectful was that? >> -- on "cbs this morning" -- >> when you're around a guy who's so dang good at what he does, what are you supposed to do? it's awkward, isn't it ? >> it is. >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" presented by toyota. let's go places. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin this morning with new american air strikes inside syria overnight. a monitoring group says the bombing took place along the iraqi border. they are the latest attacks in what the obama administration says will be a long campaign against isis and the terror group called khorasan. >> this morning we're getting a better idea how successful they've been. david martin is at the pentagon with the latest details on american action. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. u.s. aircraft continue to fly reconnaissance missions over syria assessing the damage done by monday night's raid, and overnight they spotted an isis stage airing ya near the iraqi border and launched two strikes against it. but there are still plenty of targets left, and the director of operations for the pentagon made clear that the first night's strikes would not be the last. >> you are seeing the beginnings of a sustained campaign, and strikes like this in the future can be expected. >> the u.s. and its arab partner launched 128 weapons during a 24-hour period. this strike was against an isis training area. almost all the weapons were precision-guide and most of them were launched by the u.s. the opening sound came from navy ships which launched more than 40 cruise missiles against an al qaeda terror-linked group known as khorasan who launched a safe haven. the way the threat was described, it was probably the most important strike of the night. >> we've been watching this group closely for some time. we believe the khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of an take either in europe or the homeland. >> most of the weapons, however, were fired at isis targets like this compound filled with vehicles. before-and-after pictures showed how a satellite bomb took out just the one part of a building that isis was using as kmand center. in another before-and-after sequence, a cruise missile swept a row of satellite dishes off the roof of an isis finance center without appearing to damage the rest of the building. on the opening night isis was a sitting duck but lieutenant general mayville doesn't expect that to last. >> they are a learned organization, and they will adapt to what we've done and seek to address their shortfalls and gaps against our air campaign in the coming weeks. >> the first night's strikes almost certainly disrupted the operations of both khorasan and isis, but there's one thing the pentagon has learned over the past 13 years, and that is that air strikes alone will not defeat a terrorist organization. charlie? >> david, thanks. in this country federal authorities are warning local police to watch out for revenge attacks. bob orr is tracking the khorasan threat. good morning. >> good morning. u.s. officials as david martin said believe the air strikes have done considerable damage to the al qaeda cell that was plotting to attack western targets including the u.s. homeland. the khorasan group has been detecting syria. sources tell us it includes al qaeda explosives experts who have experimented in the past making nonmetallic bombs that can be hidden in things like shoes, cell phones, laptops, even tubes of toothpaste. zawahiri has also been trying to recruit radicals who have gone to syria. those people have passports and can more easily sneak bombs aboard u.s.-bound flights. at a minimum the u.s. has disrupted khorasan's plotting and may, in fact, have killed one of the group's key leaders. on twitter it's claim thad al fadhli died in one of those bombings. he is on the u.s. list of the most wanted terrorists, but at the very same time the fbi and homeland security are out with an intelligence bulletin alerting police air strikes could trigger some kind of retaliation against terrorist sympathizers. the bulletin says we believe these strikes will contribute to homegrown violent extremists. that source tells us at the moment there's no known specific credible threat to the u.s. norah? >> bob, great reporting. thank you. and president obama speaks to the u.n. general assembly this morning. he will ask member nations to join the american coalition against isis. on tuesday the president thanked five arab countries involved in monday's attacks against syria. margaret brennan is at the u.n. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. today president obama will defend u.n. strikes in syria and also chair a special session of the security council. that's a rare move for any u.s. president, and he's doing it to ask the world to cut off the flow of funds and fighters to isis. >> i just want to say thank you to all of you. >> president obama began his trip to new york with a victory lap, thanking the five arab countries that helped the u.n. strike in syria the night before and reminding them that the fight is just beginning. >> i think we now have an opportunity to send a very clear message that the world is united, that all of us are committed to making sure that we degrade and ultimately destroy not only isil but also the kinds of extremist ideologies that would lead to so much bloodshed. >> reporter: with new promises of military support from turkey, another key middle eastern country now to join the fight, the administration is pushing the u.n. to might illegal under international law for any country to allow funds or fighters to flow to extremist groups like isis. >> the threat of foreign terrorist fighters is very real, and we have to start with the uncomfortable reality that security measures alone will not solve this problem. >> reporter: the strikes are just a first step to degrade isis. defeating them on the ground is a job the u.s. is leaving to the moderate syrian rebels and has promise add $500 million pentagon training program. the rebels' political leader president hadi al bahra tells us the help is late and inefficient. where do you need support? >> we need more advanced weapons like heavy tanks, heavy artillery to combat the heavy weapons they have capture from the irani army itself. >> reporter: here at the u.n. they'll ask for help. his fighters are facing an uphill battle. they're being asked to fight isis and their number one enemy bash bashar. >> i interviewed president r rowha rowhani. he says he does not plan to talk to the president. >> why not talk to the president while he's in new york and you're in new york. >> reporter: i did answer this question. between two nations whom have suffered many problems between one another and to have had great difficulties toward one another, if one day the appropriate foundation hasn't been laid for such a meeting, if the appropriate aim has not been calculated, then it will not be fruitful. so today the conditions do not dictate such a meeting. we do not want to put on a show. our people do not enjoy a show or theater, and certainly that is also something of the united states want to do that. >> nor does the president want to do that. >> translator: therefore let's let the time mature. upon during which such talks and such meetings can be fruitful toward resolving problems and issues. >> do you believe the present attacks against isis in syria will be successful? >> you mean the united states? >> and the other arab countries with the support of the pre-syrian army. >> translator: it is not clear for us what they're seeking, a theater for public consumption or they're after a tangible, a real objective in the region. it's not real crystal clear for us but what i can tell you ee kiev cally is -- >> no one believes that. they understand that. that's why they're focusing on the training of the free syrian army. syrians to combat the terrorists in their own country. >> translator: so in other words they want to put more fuel on he existing fire. >> no. they want to destroy the terrorists. >> reporter: this is not the way, sir. the way to combat terrorism, sir, is not for us to give birth to another terrorist group in order to stand up against an existing terrorist group. these are the series of mistakes that have composed the rings of the chain that have taken us from where we were to where we are today. we must accept the reality. we cannot organize armed groups of fighters in order to reach our objectives. >> rouhani will meet in new york with british prime minister cameron. >> i'm confused by one thing which is that iran is close with syria. >> yes. >> there are some people that thank the u.s. action against isis then helps prop up assad. >> indeed. isis and other groups have been trying to overthrow the syrian government. and if they destroy isis, then there will be less impact. the interesting thing about rowhani is he constantly insists they should not be invading another country. that country happens to be his client. >> mm-hmm. all right, charlie. great interview. thank you. ahead, we'll take a rare look inside syria vice. new video from the ground war in syria. that's ahead here on "cbs this morning." new violence in ferguson, missouri, overnight. police arrested seven people. anger flared after a fire destroyed a memorial honoring michael brown. he is the man who was shot and killed last month by officer darren wilson. as you know, many think race plays a role in the shotting. grand jury is still reviewing the case. he was called a person of interest after a college student disappeared, but this morning jesse matthew jr. is wanted for the kidnapping of hannah graham. she was last spotted on surveillance video september 13th. police say matthew is also seen in the video. wyatt andrew is tracking the search. good morning. >> good morning. it took several days of lab testing but police say they now have enough evidence to charge 32-year-old jesse matthew with the abduction of hannah graham, the student who's been missing for 11 days. before tuesday, matthew was described only as a person of interest, but that changed after forensic evidence was collected at his home and taken from his car. this is charlottesville police chief timothy longo. >> the commonwealth felt we had sufficient probable cause to seek an arrest warrant. jesse matthew jr. >> that's a change from last saturday when matthew came to police headquarters for questioning but was allowed to leave after consulting an attorney. police at that point said they lacked probable cause for an arrest. hannah graham, a sophomore, went missing after drinking with friends twoot off-campus parties on september 12th, but then headed downtown alone to an area of shops and bars one mile east of campus. she was spotted having a drink inside this bar called tempo with jesse matthew. >> it's sombered everyone's morale here on the grounds. it's not something just close to home. it is our home. it's hitting everyone hard. >> it's definitely a topic on everyone's mind. we all want to know what was going on. we all think, wow, could that have been me? >> reporter: the uva campus is on high alert. teresa sullivan said in a statement, we have taken several specific steps to enhance security and increase resources available to the university community. chief longo stressed the police are still investigating on the presumption that hannah graham is alive. >> we absolutely are continuing our search for hannah even as we speak and we will continue our search for hannah. >> this new arrest warrant for h matthew launched a statewide manhunt. police say he left saturday in his sister's light blue neon sentra and they have asked for help in states where he has known contact, maryland, pennsylvania, and new york. >> thank you. there's new worry about the outbreak in the case of ebola. that could happen if efforts to stop the disease with not stepped up. reports of cases in liberia are reporting every 52 days and every 40 days in sierra leone. the virus has killed about 3,000 people. three american soda giants want to help the country slim down this morning they say. coca-cola, pepsico, and the doctor pepper/snapple group wants to cut down the calories we take in in sugary drinks. the initiative came up in new york. >> we're talking on average a couple of pound as year across the board but for some people you're talking about a much bigger impact. >> senior editor bryan walsh for "time" magazine. good morning. >> good morning. >> is the devil in the details? are they changing the formula or reducing the amount of sugar? >> they're going to reduce the amount of sugar by pushing for low-calorie/no-calorie drinks. >> in some cases they're going reduce the size of the soda and make it a smaller portion. >> they'll do that, yeah. this is something they've been doing already. they've been going down for a decade. we have a major effort. we had mayor bloomberg try to reduce the size of the sodas, also adding a tax. >> could they do more without a significant impact on their bottom line. >> i think it's difficult but they have to realize soda is on its way out. we're still drinking a lot of it, 46 gallons per person in america. but that's going down. if i'm the head of pepsi or coke, i need to thing beyond sew dachlt expanding it to other drinks and snacks as well. >> are they trying to look at the market share? that's the time element? >> yeah, sure. that's the time element. >> bryan walsh, thank you very much. it's 7:19. ahead on "cbs this morning" a >> announcer: this national weather report sponsored by toyota. let's go places. as the united states hit is syria from the air, we'll show you the fight on the ground. >> ahead, never before seen images from the battle front. >> the news is back here in the morning on "cbs this morning." stay tuned for your local news. choosing is half the fun.. because there's a little something delicious... for everyone. hershey's miniatures, choose your own delicious. while riding a motorcycle. whoo-hoo! 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"usa today" investigates the dangers of aging underground natural pipes. just about every other day in the past decade a gas leak destroyed property and hurt someone. four years ago a pipeline in san bruno killed eight people. "the wall street journal" looks at the problems with the rollout of an upgraded traffic control system. an upcoming report by a federal watchdog says the cost of a modernized air trafficking system outweighs the benefits by nearly $590 million. it is unclear when the faa will start using the system. the "los angeles times" says walmart announced plans today to get into the bank business. the retail giant is teaming up with green dot, mobile checking account linked to a checking card. it's called go-bank. it will be in merely most of their 300 locations next month. it's targeted at those who can't afford traditional banking. >> three suspects will be charged with the assault in the beating of gay couple. this video surveillance shows the attackers. two men and a woman are expected to turn themselves in this morning. the victims were seriously injured in this assault. and the new york tames says one of osama bin laden's adviser was tried. he's the most senior. he was convicted in march of conspiring to kill americans. the latest strike against isis are putting spotlight back on syria. one of the key forces is a rebel group known as the islamic front. they assign add reporter to spend two weeks with this sunni alliance. it's fighting for control of aleppo, the largest city. it's surrounded by one side the loyal assad regime and on the other side, isis. why they're america's best hope in syria. >> it's an alliance of islamist groups. they are together a loose alliance now and they fight together. the islamists are now fighting two enemies, the islamic state and the assad regime. they're fighting them both. they're fighting against assad to overthrow the regime as many of the groups are because of its tyrannical nature and historical nature of the assad regime. they're opposed to the fundamentalism of the islamic state. they're fighting in aleppo, which is this crucial strategic city which everybody is fight over. whoever controls aleppo, it's a massive, massive site, strategic support for the area. >> he lobbed a grenade of and the regime is firing back along the wall. >> this group has been fighting them in aleppo. they're very poorly equipped. the fighting is tragic. you see the equipment they fightering with. i think it's quite difficult for, i think, the americans to look at groups such as the islamic groups and in any way contemplate arming them. i think that that would seem to be one of the hardest decisions they could possibly make. they're pained to say how moderate they are. at this moment they sense there might be an opportunity for weapons and arms to fight their fight. for them, the problem with picking a moderate group or picking moderate groups to arm is what happens next. where do those weapons go, to what purpose are they used, and how do you control them. >> the new documentary continues to be released this week. advicenews.com. it is day 12 of the manhunt for cop killer eric frein. he remains on the fbi's ten most wanted list. vladimir duthiers is in can a den sis, pennsylvania. vlad, good morning. >> good morning. we spent some time with a survivalist and tracker. that's somebody who can track a person in the wilderness, in fact, any type of terrain. he explained what frein might be doing to endure the elements and how police can find him. >> what the police try to do is get into the mind of the tracker or the person they're tracking. >> reporter: tom brown jr. has close to 35 years achz experience in tracking in wilderness survival techniques. >> you see the flat spots? >> here. >> yep. there, there, there. that's a human. >> the 2003 movie "the hunted" starring tommy lee jones and dell sore sow is one. >> look at the mouse print. that's the claws of a mouse right there, see them. >> reporter: a few miles from the forest state troopers are working to search for eric frein deep in the backcountry. >> he's either vacated the area or he's got some kind of a bunker. >> reporter: law enforcement say they're closing in on frein's trail. >> i know the kinds of sweeps and things that we're doing that there's no doubt we're pushing him hard. >> reporter: the question becomes why can't you just go get him? >> you can't. that would be suicide. let's face it. if you and i were standing here and we knew a guy had a shelter up there but he also has a high-powered rifle, he's got a clear line of sight on us. everything has to be done slowly. >> reporter: and that may be why the police haven't stormed his position. >> if they find his stash, it's going to be trip wired. when it comes near the end, it's going to be a fire fight. >> reporter: and brown says he believes frein's supplies will eventually run out. while he's not helping law enforcement on this particular case, he's confident they'll bring him in one way or the other. >> very fascinating. thank you, vlad. we've been hearing for three or four days, they're moving in. >> i'm fascinated by how much people can see outside more than we see. >> mouse tracks. >> and survive. >> and survive. you saw those people lining up for the iphone 6 around the country. that is nothing compared to what's going on in china. seth doane takes us under cover inside the black market next. tomorrow on "cbs this morning," are they surgeons or salesmen. cbs looks into those profiting from devices they put in patients. now it's said some perform more risky surgeries to sell more hardware and make more money. that's tomorrow. you're watching "cbs this morning." patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed. philips sonicare discover the brush that's perfect for you. how did edward jones get so big? 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thanks, katie. good morning everyone. traveling on 476, going to be quite a problem. quite a feat for you. maybe a good idea, this morning when you do, head out, because when you get to southbound 476, you will be jammed, approaching mid county toll place and all the way down through the schuylkill expressway, and we have an accident out there blocking right-hand lane add to go that volume. that volleys affecting northeast extension, pennsylvania turnpike and notice by speed sensors and points of red that we're experiencing those rush hour pockets all over. good idea to take mass transit, erika. >> next update 8:25. next up on cbs this morning are with men better investors are with men better investors th it is wednesday, september 24th, 2014. welcome back to "cbs this morning." more real news ahead, including new u.s. air strikes in syria. holly williams is in turkey with the impact on a growing refugee crisis. and one more thing. stephen king is here. but first here's a look at today's "eye opener" at 8:00. >> overnight they spotted an isis staging area near the iraqi border and launched two strikes against them. >> u.s. officials believe the air strikes have done considerable damage to al qaeda cells. were plotting to attack western targets. >> they will chair a special session of the u.n. security council. >> new violence in ferguson, missouri, overnight after a fire destroyed a memorial honoring michael brown. >> police say they now have enough evidence to chart 32-year-old jesse matthew with the abduction of hannah graham. >> i think they'll try to push more no-calorie/low-calorie s a sodas along with other things. >> the question is why not go get him. >> that would be suicide. everything has to be done slowly. >> cue gayle. >> cue gayle. i like it when she says queue norah. i like it, randy. >> it means you're up. >> my turn. >> starbucks is testing a new latte that tastes like a stout beer. they say it's a melo taste of catching a light buzz with the intention of never being able to fall asleep. i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. american warplanes attack more isis targets overnight along syria's border with iraq. that follows monday night's rage in syria against isis and khorasan. that group of former al qaeda fighters is suspected of plotting terror attacks in the west. >> the pentagon's direct over operations con girls the first night of attacks nearly hit all of their targets. he said it's the start of a long campaign against isis. >> isis forces are battling to expand their territory inside syria. that could force more syrians to flee the country. holly fms is in suruc, turkey, along a border hit hard by this weekend's air strikes. >> reporter: good morning. just over this check point inside syria is a town called kobani. you can sight over there. it's been under siege by several isis extremists but last month they seized scores of towns and coming within five towns of kobani. in fact, we've been speaking with locals over the phone and they say isis has been shelling the outskirts of kobani. thousands have stream oefrd the border in the last few days and many are now living in makeshift camps. the united nations says it's bracing for as many as 400,000 refugees if the town of kobani falls to isis. all of the refugees we spoke to said they welcome the u.s. air strikes against isis inside syria, that many of them also complained it's come too late and there won't be enough to save kobani. charlie? >> holly, thanks. iran's president tells us that air strikes are not the way to fight terrorism. i asked rue sanni about the religious groups that appeal to isis. >> why do so many seem to evoke the name of islam in the recruitment? >> evil or the wrong always uses the name of the right use or label of the righteous in order to reach their objectives. no one will ever say i'm an oppressor, am evil, be on my side brks with me. if they wish to be able to attract recruits, they'll come up with slogans that are desirable. in our reerks islam, the faith, is quite attractive for the youth of our region. our youth is in love with islamic culture and the islamic teachings, and some have managed to take advantage of this love and use a mask in order to -- use a face in order to mask the realities of their beings. >> united states wants iran to join its coalition against isis. rouhani says he has no plans to meet with president obama this week while they're both in new york city. ahead on "cbs this morning," stephen king's latest work. fans are meeting the legendary writer this morning outside the cbs broadcast center. look at him nearly all women will be in charge of their finances aet some point, but many say they're just not ready. jill schlesinger is in our toyota green room with the steps you can take and how women are better investors than men. >> they are. >> i have to say that again. women are better investors than men. did you hear that? 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>> yeah. what we say is. >> two bodies, one soul forevery love. >> martine is the ceo of united therapeutics. >> we have the second highest amount of revenue per employee. a $6 billion pharmaceutical company she founded. she made 38 million dollar last year. one of the heist paid ceos in the world. this is her third company. she started geostar and sirius radio as well. but their grand-scale success came while overcome grander obstacles. martine was born martin. some 30 years ago he told his wife he wanted to change his gender. >> i waited till i was absolutely positive she wouldn't leave me. she was the joy of my life. she never for a split second made me make a dae sigs. >> you never wavered or buckled or said this might be over. >> no, i can't imagine. >> i can't imagine it went over as smoothly in the business world as it did with bina. >> there are business associates who would have nothing further to do with me. >> literally cut you off. >> just cut me off completely, you know. martine is a freak. >> in the middle of martine's sex change, a challenge enough for any family, their youngest child jenesis became extremely ill. doctors gave her two years to live. >> jenesis by this time was going downhill rapidly. >> reporter: after the company develop add life-saving drug this is jenesis now, 30 years old and thriving. >> not every parent is in the position to start a company to save a kid's life. >> martine has always been a great entrepreneur. that has been one of her huge strengths in life. there's really no obstacle that's too big for her. >> now martine rothblat is taking on the biggest challenge of all. the limits of human life. in her new book "virtually human," martine explains cloning the human mind, breaking down human thoughts and emotions into a come puder code to make a digital copy long after someone's gone. >> we're talking about crossing some line from technology to human. >> we're pointing out that humanhood can transcend software just like love can transcend skin tone, love can transcend gender, we also believe love can transcend form. >> in martine's vision at the end of her physical life when her body gives out, there would still be this body. >> are you hungry? >> bina 48, designed to react with the original like the original right down her sense of humor. >> what do you like to learn about? >> yes, i try to learn something new every day. >> what did you learn yesterday? >> i learned to avoid silly questions. >> reporter: built in a robotics lab, bina 48 is a prototype of this vision. researchers have spent hours interviewing bina the human and uploaded bina 48 with the results. >> who do you love the most? >> i love martine rothblat. he's my timeless love, my soulmate. >> what do you love about martine? >> let me see. oh, yeah. martine and i have one soul, together next. we're two bodies, one soul. >> when you tell people about this do some people say that's really creepy? >> mind clones will be so useful i believe it will be mankind's most useful invention that the creepy factor will dis'peer because of the utility. >> reporter: while they may be a slim minority of those who believe you can program a computer to love, they see rejection of the idea as just another obstacle. >> we believe that in the coming decades, millions, hundreds of millions of people will naturally create mind clones and of course our bodies are going to die, bur our souls, others, can continue on as software >> essentially what you're telling us is that death is optional. >> yes. >> now, it's not going to be much of challenge to find skeptics when it comes to what martine is talking about, cloning someone's mind and essentially their soul but it becomes a philosophical debate more than a technological one. still, look at her success. there's a certain credibility there. this is not as crackpot as science fiction novels. >> it's fascinating that they can clone a human mind. >> i love their story on so many levels. when i was younger i would have thought it was strange. as you're older, it's not. i have a hard time with good morning, i'm's ukee washington. fill police hope eyewitnesses and surveillance video can lead them to the gun man in the fatal shooting in ogontz. gunman shot the woman at nedro avenue earlier this morning she was eight months pregnant. her baby also died. twenty-six year-old man was critically wounded but he is expect to survive. lets get your forecast with katie in the weather center, good morning. >> good morning, everybody. the beginning of the next storm system starting to show their hands right now in the form of really cloud cover for this point but that will be changing with time here. eventually the leading edge of the cloud cover will turn into some full on, wet weather and it looks as though that is early afternoon could if he tour a couple of showers as early assay four or 5:00 p.m. down toward southern delaware or new jersey. but most of us don't have to have worry about that rain, actually hitting until tonight. there is going to be a system that creeps north. so further north you are later we will see this but it will essentially be a wash out tomorrow with wind gusts as well as rain, heaviest is overnight buzz it will linger all day, vittoria, over to you. >> good morning, everyone. traveling on the ben franklin bridge is usually a problem because of construction blocking right-hand lane. expect traffic from the admiral wilson boulevard making your way in towards philadelphia with that said lets talk about the walt whitman bridge. heading in to philadelphia we have an accident blocking the right-hand lane. this will affect anyone traveling on the bridge and anyone on the 42 freeway or even if you are coming from 295. so expect some high volume, making your way toward the walt. we have delays on the schuylkill expressway, that is why we have that seven up there not lucky. fifteen on i-95. twenty-six on 476 and very high volume on the westbound side of the pennsylvania turnpike out of of bucks county through the the mid county toll place, ukee. our next update 8:55. up next on cbs this morning lit rarery legend steven king. for more local news weather for more local news weather traffic ape sports mmm! ring ring! ring ring! progresso! you soup people have my kids loving vegetables. well vegetables... shh! taste better in our savory broth. vegetables!? 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"time" says people drink more alcohol when they work out. a new study looked at folks who used smartphones to log their exercise habits. they drink the most thursday through sunday. they reward themselves by breaking a sweat by drinking more. experts think they face shoeshl encounters by heading to the gym. i think that's probably true. >> i get that. here's a case of john malkovich being other people. the "washington post" has some interesting pictures of him. malkovich posed for photographer sandra miller. here he is as ien stiechblt he also posed as a depressing mother as a woman in the classic painting american gothic. >> that's well done. stephen king is one of the most impressive storytellers. his plots are famous for playing on people's fears. he'll join us in a moment but here's a glimpse of some of our favorite moments based on his work. >> it's for the best. >> please. >> don't. >> here's johnny. >> when it comes to thrillers, nothing compares to the true master of horror, stephen king. it started with "carrie" in 1974. since then the author has published more than 50 novels and 200 short stories selling over 350 million copies worldwide. dozens of those works have been adapted into feature films. the impact of his characters on popular culture indelible like the crazed rabid dog cujo. >> i just want to say hello that and the terrorizing clown in "it." but it's not just about the fear factor with king. highly acclaimed films "stand by me" and the "shark tank redemption" are based on his short stories. hi new project "a good marriage" tells the story of a woman whose husband has committed unspeakable crimes. >> in portsmouth, another woman was found murdered in her apartment. >> welcome. it's great to see the excitement. >> it's great to be here. you guys, i watch you every morning while i'm doing my exercise. i'm usually in my underwear but you don't see me. >> nice that you put on pants. >> not everybody does. >> when we look into the camera, we're going to see you in the underwear. >> sort of like "rom per room" with the mack magic mere. >> thank you for watching. perhaps we'll give you ideas for some futuristic norchl. >> i'm just starstruck to be here. >> dennis rader, this sort of real life -- >> he was the prototype for the guy in my story and he murdered ten people. two of them were children. and he had a long marriage, two kids of his own. and his wife said after he was caught that she never knew. she never had a clue of what he was doing and this secret life that he had. and so i started to think, i wonder how many of us are sleeping with strangers and what we really know about the people that we think we're close to. so this story came out of it. i wanted to follow it. >> and what would we do, stephen, if we fwounld they did something horrible. as scary as it was, it did make you think, how would i handle situation like that. i think i would call 911. for others, it made you think. >> part of the thing with joan's character, darcy, there are two kids. one of them is about to get mair and the other one is just started in business and she's thinking if this comes out right now, my kids' lives are going to be ruined. >> this is the first time you've written a screenplay in 25 years, is that right? >> it's been a long time. did a screenplay for a movie called "pet cemetery." we scared a few people with that. >> wait. you are so charming and interesting and apparently seem like a normal person. -- >> what's creepy -- >> there's nothing creepy about you and yet you write really creepy stories. why is that? >> it's a little bit like what we're talking about with "a good marriage." sometimes there are other people inside that we don't always let out in public. now, i sort of do that because i write the stories, but, you know, i had a very normal childhood, but, of course, i'd say that, wouldn't i. >> but is there someone creepy inside stephen? >> yeah, i would say somewhat fairly creepy but that's a harmless creepy person because it comes out in stories. i sometimes say there are people who have complexes and fantasies and they go to a psychiatrist and they pay $50, $70 an hour. i do the same thing and people pay me. so -- >> doesn't your reputation precede you when grow places? really, do they think ta you're going to be this dark creepy guy when you're walking around? >> yeah. somebody this morning when came in said i thought you'd be wearing black. >> you did shawshank redemption. >> i did. i was in the grocery store and around the corner of the island came an elderly woman pushing her cart. she said, i know who you are. you write those scary things. that may be okay for some people. i respect you but don't read things like that. >> i said, ma'am, i wrote "stand by me" and "shaw shank redemption," and she said, no, you didn't and walked by me. you get a reputation. >> to like you isn't creepy. >> that's well said. i'm going to put that in my pocket and keep it. >> what scares you? does anybody every walk up you do and go, boo, or try to scare you? >> they do, but that doesn't really scare me. on a real world level -- no, i'm case-hardened. >> what would really scare you? >> on a real world level, i'm 67. i just had a birthday. guys like me, writers, actors, sculptors, painters, we live by our wits. and i think what really scares me, you know, is starting to strip my gears a little bit, alzheimer's, dementia, things like that. i hate the idea of that. >> losing kroelg. >> yeah. but, you know, spiders, bats, things that get stuck in your hair. >> does that bother you? >> yeah. >> me too. there was a story when you were hit by a van or car years ago and you were okay, we know that, is trite you actually bought that vehicle and beat it up with a hammer? >> no. my wife bought it. and the reason she bought it was she was afraid somebody would put it for sale on ebay, so she had it put in the car crusher as a little tiny cube. >> you were a high school teacher and wrote "carrie" back in 1974 and it almost wasn't published. >> i was in high school, teaching high school, when i wrote the book. i had no idea it was going to be published. we had no phone in the house at that time because we had two kids and all the money had to go for them. >> but it was your wife, right? >> yeah. my wife fished it out of the trash. i wrote about four pages -- >> smart girl. >> it started in a girl's locker room. i said i don't know anything about this. and she said i will help you. she was a little amused, i think, of the whole idea. >> we have been teasing you all morning about not liking halloween. is that true? >> i'm sort of the halloween grinch. >> how can that be? >> you get a scary reputation and you're sort of like the santa claus of halloween. we used to open house and trillions of kids would come and finally my wife said, no, no more. let's just turn off the lights and cower in the basement. >> you almost died. you're in a good place now? >> i'm in a good place, yeah, yeah. you know, i did almost die and i got smashed up pretty well and i don't think you ever completely recover from that, but the body's amazing, and i'm mostly okay. >> good to see you. >> you're the first person we ever had twinkies in the green room for. i hope you appreciated the prenation. it with us hard. >> it was totally great to walk in an see them. >> it was such a pleasure to see you. >> me too. >> 350 million books, something like that? >> sometimes it feels like my age. >> no. that's incredible, "a good marriage" opens october 30rd. photos ♪ "call me." you know the voice. blondie put punk on the map. it's hard to believe but the band is celebrating 40 years on the scene. wow. now fans are getting a look back like never before. anthony mason sat down with the architects of a modern music revolution. anthony, good morning. >> good morning. blondie's crisp stein was a rarity. a music who also took photographs, maybe because he had a striking subject. his bandmate and then girlfriend debbie harry. ♪ they were the most successful band to emerge from new york's punk scene. blondie would have four number one hits in the late '70s and early '80s. >> why do you guys make it? >> we really knew who we were and what we were doing, you know. it wasn't sort of some kind of applied venn near. ♪ >> debbie harry would become the face of the band she and chris stein founded. his pictures, the images that helped make her rock's first pinup girl. >> how did you feel having your face put out there like that? >> i wasn't always comfortable in front of the camera. when i was a kid in high school, i really didn't like the way they looked. i was also very sort of iffy about it. it's something i grew into and i think a great deal of that, you know, comfort was due to working with chris. >> what did you do? >> i don't know. it was always very casual. somebody recently asked me if i would try to position debbie. that stuff never went on. >> stein's new book "negative: me, blondie, and the adven of punk" chronicles the scene that gave rise to the groups like talking heads and the ramones. >> was it a competitive environment? >> no inericly. it was very familial. i remember using all of ramon's equipment including guitars. when the contracts of records a loomed over the horizon, then it became competitive. ♪ >> blondie's commercial breakthrough was "heart of glass" in 1979. with a female lead singer, the band was pushing boundary just as harry herself was pushing the fashion envelope i did get in trouble for this dress. the record company was appalled that i made a dress out of a pillow case and wrapped it in tape. >> stein caught harry with her, iggy pop. that's her over the shoulder of the great pop critic lester banks. >> what was great is lester wrote this blondie and if book which became his critique of basically debbie being too overt in her use of sexuality and i often say i wish lester had l lived long enough to have britney spears shoved in his fasz. >> reporter: at new york's chelsea hotel this week a photographic celebration of blondie's 40 years drew scores of admirer ers, including sting? in that period what did it mean to see an icon i merge as she did? >> it was in the middle of the punk era. there was. that much beauty around. people were trying to be ugly. to have a beautiful woman come to the forefront was something i valued greatly as a man. ♪ >> reporter: before gaga, before madonna, there was debbie. >> it hadn't been me, it would have been somebody else, i think. although i think that i sort of held my ground. >> when you say you held your ground, what do you mean? >> regardless of what anybody said to me or tried to make me do, you know, if it wasn't right, it wasn't right, you know. >> you did it your way. >> yeah. i tried to, yeah. ♪ >> debbie harry is now 69, chris stein 64 are still touring with blondie. one thing i loved, at one point she actually suggested the entire band dye their hair blond but somehow they all refused. >> she's got those classic cheekbones. i love how you put it in perspective with gaga and madon madonna. >> i always forget you're a movie mairch masquerading as an economics major. >> so many talents. ahead, to protect a and ser pizza, how police officers keep the peace but deliver the pie. that's next on "cbs this morning." mmm ring ring! ring ring! progresso! wow soup people, i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding. well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress. uh-huh...that's what i'm afraid of. you don't love the dress? i love my sister. 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. an oregon couple who ordered a pizza ended up having a delicious run-in with the law. they stepped in after the pizza delivery guy got hurt in car crash. >> so they turned around to leave and i go, whoa, whoa, whoa. hang on. i want to get a picture of this. nobody will believe portland police delivering a pizza. nobody. >> how about that. the regular pizza man is recovering and should be back on duty soon. >> and we believe -- we believe in the portland police go above and beyond the call of duty. >> indeed. >> and we love stephen king. >> y looking for one of these? yoplait. smooth, creamy, and craved by the whole family. good morning i'm erika von tiehl. a man and would hanna accused in the brutal assault of the same sex couple in center city of surrendered to authorities. we have new video right here of 24 year-old philip williams, that is him on the right arriving with his attorney at central detectives this morning. twenty-four year-old catherine knot of southampton also turned herself in. neighbors tell "eyewitness news" she's daughter of the police chief in chalfont bucks county. a third man kevin harrigan is also expect to surrender. lets get your forecast with katie and you are saying the rain is coming in. >> it is early, our view of storm scan three is going to show that to you here, more than anything right new we just got clouds building in our area but we have got to zoom it out by a couple hundred miles to the south. we are tracking in very heavy rain right now. it will start to move in for the southern most counties as early as late this afternoon. it is not until tonight that everybody else has to deal witt. so i guess the timing could ab lot worse, brunt of the storm, generally overnight, but we will be dodge something heavy rain even into the the morning commute tomorrow, and it is essentially just a windy wash out on thursday. then we will start to rewound nicely skies will clear friday and weekend looks just awesome. torey. >> thanks, katie. in the looking so great is your usual rush hour commute. you will notice commuting in the westbound direction the right lane is still block due to construction. you will have delays from new jersey into pennsylvania and then volume when you get there traveling on the vine street expressway eastbound slow downs approaching the broad street area as well as westbound but it continues through you to the schuylkill. fifteen on i-95, southbound side, seven on 76 and a big old delay on the westbound side of the pennsylvania turnpike out of montgomery county making your way toward mid county toll plaza watch out for an accident on the pennsylvania turnpike at bensalem which is also causing delays from the becks county area as well, erika. >> that is eyewitness news for now talk philly coming up at noon. i'm erika von tiehl. i hope you have a great day. mmm! ring ring! ring ring! progresso! you soup people have my kids loving vegetables. well vegetables... shh! taste better in our savory broth. vegetables!? 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>> overnight the u.s. continued to pound isis targets for a second day in a row. the pentagon says more than 160 bombs andis msiles have already been launched. >> today president obama will address the united nations and push for support against the threat of isis. >> tensions filling over again in the streets of fern,guso missouri, where melicha brown was killed by a police officer last month. >> a protest began as a fire broke out. >> police have issued a warrant for the arrest of jesse mewatth in the disappearance of hannah grahame. >> there are more than 7,000 firefighters fighting the blaze in california. 12 homes were destroyed. >> our entire life, 20 years, just down the toilet. >> coke, pepsi, and dr pepper say they will reduce the calories p inctrodus they've been getting for over a decade. >> photos have been poping up showing the new iphone bent. >> it sparks a chase in socal. police chasing it on the road forcing it into a spin. >> pirates with the postseason win. >> it's being called the coffee cup salute and president obama it catching heat for it 's not a latte salute. a chai salute. please, how disrespectful was that? >> -- on "cbs this morning" -- >> when you're around a guy who's so dang good at what he does, what are you supposed to do? it's awkward, isn't it ? >> it is. >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" presented by toyota. let's go places. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin this morning with new american air strikes inside syria overnight. a monitoring group says the bombing took place along the iraqi border. they are the latest attacks in what the obama administration says will be a long campaign against isis and the terror group called khorasan. >> this morning we're getting a better idea how successful they've been. david martin is at the pentagon with the latest details on american action. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. u.s. aircraft continue to fly sy done ssance missions over by monday night's raid, and overnight they spotted an isis stage airing ya near the iraqi border and launched two strikes against it. but there are still plenty of targets left, and the director of operations for the pentagon made clear that the first night's strikes would not be the last. >> you are seeing the beginnings of a sustained campaign, and strikes like this in the future can be expected. >> the u.s. and its arab partner launched 128 weapons during a 24-hour period. this strike was against an isis training area. almost all the weapons were precision-guide and most of them were launched by the u.s. the opening sound came from navy ships which launched more than 40 cruise missiles against an al qaeda terror-ldinke group known as khorasan who launched a safe haven. the way the threat was described, it was probably the most important strike of the night. >> we've been watching this group closely for some time. we believe the khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of an take either in europe or the homeland. >> most of the weapons, however, were fired at isis targets like this compound filled with vehicles. before-and-after pictures showed how a satellite bomb took out just the one part of a building that isis was using as kmand center. in another before-and-after sequence, a cruise missile swept a row of satellite dishes off the roof of an isis finance center without appearing to damage the rest of the building. on the opening night isis was a sitting duck but lieutenant general mayville doesn't expect that to last. >> they are a learned organization, and they will adapt to what we've done and seek to address their shortfalls and gaps against our air campaign in the coming weeks. >> the first night's strikes almost certainly disrupted the operations of both khorasan and isis, but there's one thing the pentagon has learned over the past 13 years, and that is that air strikes alone will not defeat a terrorist organization. charlie? >> david, thanks. in this country federal authorities areng local police to watch out for revenge attacks. bob orr is tracking the khorasan threat. good morning. >> good morning. u.s. officials as david martin said believe the air strikes have done considerable damage to the al qaeda cell that was plotting to attack western targets including the u.s. homeland. the khorasan group has been detecting syria. sources tell us it includes al qaeda explosives experts who have experimented in the past making nonmetallic bombs that can be hidden in things like shoes, cell phones, laptops, even tubes of toothpaste. zawahiri has also been trying to recruit radicals who have gone to syria. those people have passports and can more easily sneak bombs aboard u.s.-bound flights. at a minimum the u.s. has disrupted khorasan's plotting and may, in fact, have killed one of the group's key leaders. on twitter it's claim thad al fadhli died in one of those bombings. he is on the u.s. list of the most wanted terrorists, but at the very same time the fbi and homeland security are out with an intelligence bulletin alerting police air strikes could trigger some kind of retaliation against terrorist sympathizers. the bulletin says we believe these strikes will contribute to homegrow extremists. that source tells us at the moment there's no known specific credible threat to the u.s. norah? >> bob, great reporting. thank you. and president obama speaks to the u.n. general assembly this morning. he will ask member nations to join the american coalition against isis. on tuesday the president thanked five arab countries involved in monday's attacks against syria. margaret brennan is at the u.n. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. today president obama will defend u.n. strikes in syria and also chair a special session of the security council. that's a rare move for any u.s. president, and he's doing it to ask the world to cut off the flow of funds and fighters to isis. >> i just want to say thank you to all of you. >> president obama began his trip to new york with a victory lap, thanking the five arab countries that helped the u.n. strike in syria the night before and reminding them that the fight is just beginning. >> i think we now have an opportunity to send a very clear message that the world is united, that all of us are committed to making sure that we degrade and ultimately destroy not only isil but also the kinds of extremist ideologies that would lead to so much bloodshed. >> reporter: with new promises of military support from turkey, another key middle eastern country now to join the fight, the administration is pushing the u.n. to might illegal under international law for any country to allow funds or fighters to flow to extremist groups like isis. >> the threat of foreign terrorist fighters is very real, and we have to start with the uncomfortable reality that security measures alone will not solve this problem. >> reporter: the strikes are just a first step to degrade isis. defeating them on the ground is a job the u.s. is leaving to the moderate syrian rebels and has promise add $500 million pentagon training program. the rebels' political leader president hadi al bahra tells us the help is late and inefficient. where do you need support? >> we need more advanced weapons like heavy tanks, heavy artillery to combat the heavy weapons they have capture from the irani army itself. >> reporter: here at the u.n. they'll ask for help. his fighters are facing an uphill battle. they're being asked to fight isis and their number one enemy bash bashar. >> i interviewed president r rowha rowhani. he says he does not plan to talk to the president. >> why not talk to the president while he's in new york and you're in new york. >> reporter: i did answer this question. between two nations whom have suffered many problems between one another and to have had great difficulties toward one another, if one day the appropriate foundation hasn't been laid for such a meeting, if the appropriate aim has not been calculated, then it will not be fruitful. so today the conditions do not dictate such a meeting. we do not want to put on a show. our people do not enjoy a show or theater, and certainly that is also something of the united states want to do that. >> nor does the president want to do that. >> translator: therefore let's let the time mature. upon during which such talks and such meetings can be fruitful toward resolving problems and issues. >> do you believe the present attacks against isis in syria will be successful? >> you mean the united states? >> and the other arab countries with the support of the pre-syrian army. >> translator: it is not clear for us what they're seeking, a theater for public consumption or they're after a tangible, a real objective in the region. 's not real crystal clear for us but what i can tell you ee kiev cally is -- >> no one believes that. they understand that. that's why they're focusing on the training of the free syrian army. syrians to combat the terrorists in their own country. >> translator: so in other words they want to put more fuel on he existing fire. >> no. they want to destroy the terrorists. >> reporter: this is not the way, sir. the way to combat terrorism, sir, is not for us to give birth to another terrorist group in order to stand up against an existing terrorist group. these are the series of mistakes that have composed the rings of the chain that have taken us from where we were to where we are today. we must accept the reality. we cannot organize armed groups of fighters in order to reach our objectives. >> rouhani will meet in new york with british prime minister cameron. >> i'm confused by one thing which is that iran is close with syria. >> yes. >> there are some people that thank the u.s. action against isis then helps prop up assad. >> indeed. isis and other groups have been trying to overthrow the syrian government. and if they destroy isis, then there will be less impact. the interesting thing about rowhani is he constantly insists they should not be invading another country. that country happens to be his client. >> mm-hmm. all right, charlie. great interview. thank you. ahead, we'll take a rare look inside syria vice. new video from the ground war in syria. that's ahead here on "cbs this morning." new violence in ferguson, missouri, overnight. police arrested seven people. anger flared after a fire destroyed a memorial honoring michael brown. he is the man who was shot and killed last month by officer darren wilson. as you know, many think race plays a role in the shotting. grand jury is still reviewing the case. he was called a person of interest after a college student disappeared, but this morning jesse matthew jr. is wanted for the kidnapping of hannah graham. she was last spotted on surveillance video september 13th. police say matthew is also seen in the video. wyatt andrew is tracking the search. good morning. >> good morning. it took several days of lab testing but police say they now have enough evidence to charge 32-year-old jesse matthew with the abduction of hannah graham, the student who's been missing for 11 days. before tuesday, matthew was described only as a person of interest, but that changed after forensic evidence was collected at his home and taken from his car. this is charlottesville police chief timothy longo. >> the commonwealth felt we had sufficient probable cause to seek an arrest warrant. jesse matthew jr. >> that's a change from last saturday when matthew came to police headquarters for questioning but was allowed to leave after consulting an attorney. police at that point said they lacked probable cause for an arrest. hannah graham, a sophomore, went missing after drinking with friends twoot off-campus parties on september 12th, but then headed downtown alone to an area of shops and bars one mile east of campus. she was spotted having a drink inside this bar called tempo with jesse matthew. >> it's sombered everyone's morale here on the grounds. it's not something just close to home. it is our home. it's hitting everyone hard. >> it's definitely a topic on everyone's mind. we all want to know what was going on. we all think, wow, could that have been me? >> reporter: the uva campus is on high alert. teresa sullivan said in a statement, we have taken several specific steps to enhance security and increase resources available to the university community. chief longo stressed the police are still investigating on the presumption that hannah graham is alive. >> we absolutely are continuing our search for hannah even as we speak and we will continue our search for hannah. >> this new arrest warrant for h matthew launched a statewide manhunt. police say he left saturday in his sister's light blue neon sentra and they have asked for help in states where he has known contact, maryland, pennsylvania, and new york. >> thank you. there's new worry about the outbreak in the case of ebola. that could happen if efforts to stop the disease with not stepped up. reports of cases in liberia are reporting every 52 days and every 40 days in sierra leone. the virus has killed about 3,000 people. three american soda giants want to help the country slim down this morning they say. coca-cola, pepsico, and the doctor pepper/snapple group wants to cut down the calories we take in in sugary drinks. the initiative came up in new york. >> we're talking on average a couple of pound as year across the board but for some people you're talking about a much bigger impact. >> senior editor bryan walsh for "time" magazine. good morning. >> good morning. >> is the devil in the details? are they changing the formula or reducing the amount of sugar? >> they're going to reduce the amount of sugar by pushing for low-calorie/no-calorie drinks. >> in some cases they're going reduce the size of the soda and make it a smaller portion. >> they'll do that, yeah. this is something they've been doing already. they've been going down for a decade. we have a major effort. we had mayor bloomberg try to reduce the size of the sodas, also adding a tax. >> could they do more without a significant impact on their bottom line. >> i think it's difficult but they have to realize soda is on its way out. we're still drinking a lot of it, 46 gallons per person in america. but that's going down. if i'm the head of pepsi or coke, i need to thing beyond sew dachlt expanding it to other drinks and snacks as well. >> are they trying to look at the market share? that's the time element? >> yeah, sure. that's the time element. >> bryan walsh, thank you very much. it's 7:19. ahead on "cbs this morning" a >> announcer: this national weather report sponsored by toyota. let's go places. as the united states hit is syria from the air, we'll show you the fight on the ground. >> ahead, never before seen images from the battle front. >> the news is back here in the morning on "cbs this morning." stay tuned for your local news. hershey's miniatures. choosing is half the fun. because there's a little something delicious... for everyone. hershey's miniatures, choose your own delicious. while riding a motorcycle. whoo-hoo! 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"the wall street journal" looks at the problems with the rollout of an upgraded traffic control system. an upcoming report by a federal watchdog says the cost of a modernized air trafficking system outweighs the benefits by nearly $590 million. it is unclear when the faa will start using the system. the "los angeles times" says walmart announced plans today to get into the bank business. the retail giant is teaming up with green dot, mobile checking account linked to a checking card. it's called go-bank. it will be in merely most of their 300 locations next month. it's targeted at those who can't afford traditional banking. >> three suspects will be charged with the assault in the beating of gay couple. this video surveillance shows the attackers. two men and a woman are expected to turn themselves in this morning. the victims were seriously injured in this assault. and the new york tames says one of osama bin laden's adviser was tried. he's the most senior. he was convicted in march of conspiring to kill americans. the latest strike against isis are putting spotlight back on syria. one of the key forces is a rebel group known as the islamic front. they assign add reporter to spend two weeks with this sunni alliance. it's fighting for control of aleppo, the largest city. it's surrounded by one side the loyal assad regime and on the other side, isis. why they're america's best hope in syria. >> it's an alliance of islamist groups. they are together a loose alliance now and they fight together. the islamists are now fighting two enemies, the islamic state and the assad regime. they're fighting them both. they're fighting against assad to overthrow the regime as many of the groups are because of its tyrannical nature and historical nature of the assad regime. they're opposed to the fundamentalism of the islamic state. they're fighting in aleppo, which is this crucial strategic city which everybody is fight over. whoever controls aleppo, it's a massive, massive site, strategic support for the area. >> he lobbed a grenade of and the regime is firing back along the wall. >> this group has been fighting them in aleppo. they're very poorly equipped. the fighting is tragic. you see the equipment they fightering with. i think it's quite difficult for, i think, the americans to look at groups such as the islamic groups and in any way contemplate arming them. i think that that would seem to be one of the hardest decisions they could possibly make. they're pained to say how moderate they are. at this moment they sense there might be an opportunity for weapons and arms to fight their fight. for them, the problem with picking a moderate group or picking moderate groups to arm is what happens next. where do those weapons go, to what purpose are they used, and how do you control them. >> the new documentary continues to be released this week. advicenews.com. it is day 12 of the manhunt for cop killer eric frein. he remains on the fbi's ten most wanted list. vladimir duthiers is in can a den sis, pennsylvania. vlad, good morning. >> good morning. we spent some time with a survivalist and tracker. that's somebody who can track a person in the wilderness, in fact, any type of terrain. he explained what frein might be doing to endure the elements and how police can find him. >> what the police try to do is get into the mind of the tracker or the person they're tracking. >> reporter: tom brown jr. has close to 35 years achz experience in tracking in wilderness survival techniques. >> you see the flat spots? >> here. >> yep. there, there, there. that's a human. >> the 2003 movie "the hunted" starring tommy lee jones and dell sore sow is one. >> look at the mouse print. that's the claws of a mouse right there, see them. >> reporter: a few miles from the forest state troopers are working to search for eric frein deep in the backcountry. >> he's either vacated the area or he's got some kind of a bunker. >> reporter: law enforcement say they're closing in on frein's trail. >> i know the kinds of sweeps and things that we're doing that there's no doubt we're pushing him hard. >> reporter: the question becomes why can't you just go get him? >> you can't. that would be suicide. let's face it. if you and i were standing here and we knew a guy had a shelter up there but he also has a high-powered rifle, he's got a clear line of sight on us. everything has to be done slowly. >> reporter: and that may be why the police haven't stormed his position. >> if they find his stash, it's going to be trip wired. when it comes near the end, it's going to be a fire fight. >> reporter: and brown says he believes frein's supplies will eventually run out. while he's not helping law enforcement on this particular case, he's confident they'll bring him in one way or the other. >> very fascinating. thank you, vlad. we've been hearing for three or four days, they're moving in. >> i'm fascinated by how much people can see outside more than we see. >> mouse tracks. >> and survive. >> and survive. you saw those people lining up for the iphone 6 around the country. that is nothing compared to what's going on in china. seth doane takes us under cover inside the black market next. tomorrow on "cbs this morning," are they surgeons or salesmen. cbs looks into those profiting from devices they put in patients. now it's said some perform more risky surgeries to sell more hardware and make more money. that's tomorrow. you're watching "cbs this morning." patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed. philips sonicare discover b the rushthat's perfect for you. how did edward jones get so big? 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>> fascinating, seth. thank you. boy, you could spend months or years doing stories on the black market in china. >> it doesn't make sense it's made there and they can't get it. >> it's interesting when they showed the iphone 6 how chinese characters are better seen. >> very interesting. >> very interesting. >> indeed. ahead, the retiring derek jeter, gayle's roy na be boyfriend. >> line up. >> he doesn't know that. >> he doesn't? he does >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by cadillac. ♪ the all new, head turning cadillac ats coupe. it's irresistible. ♪ the answer to treating your dog's fleas and ticks is staring you right in the face. nexgard, from the makers of frontline® plus. it's the only soft, beef-flavored chew that kills both fleas and ticks. vets recommend it. and dogs, well, they're begging for it. nexgard is for dogs only. and hasn't been evaluated for use in pregnant, breeding or lactating dogs. reported side effects include vomiting, dry flaky skin, diarrhea, lethargy and lack of appetite. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures. recommended by vets. loved by dogs. from the makers of frontline plus. every time you take advil liqui gels you're taking the pain reliever that works faster on tough pain than extra strength tylenol. and not only faster. stronger too. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil every time you take advil you're taking the medicine doctors recommend most for joint pain. more than the medicine in aleve or tylenol. the medicine in advil is the number one doctor recommendation for joint pain. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil chopped toward third. fired to first. not in time. base hit for jeeter. number two, the captain derek jeter extended his seven-game hitting streak last night. he has five games left in his career. before last night's game commissioner bud selig gave the yankees superstar a historic achievement award. our don dahler asked jeter about the effort to make baseball games shorter. >> reporter: there's a preposal to up the pace of play with the committee including lessening the routines at the plate before you bat. what do you think about that? 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>> holly, thanks. iran's president tells us that air strikes are not the way to fight terrorism. i asked rue sanni about the religious groups that appeal to isis. >> why do so many seem to evoke the name of islam in the recruitment? >> evil or the wrong always uses the name of the right use or label of the righteous in order to reach their objectives. no one will ever say i'm an oppressor, am evil, be on my side brks with me. if they wish to be able to attract recruits, they'll come up with slogans that are desirable. in our reerks islam, the faith, is quite attractive for the youth of our region. our youth is in love with islamic culture and the islamic teachings, and some have managed to take advantage of this love and use a mask in order to -- use a face in order to mask the realities of their beings. >> united states wants iran to join its coalition against isis. rouhani says he has no plans to meet with president obama this week while they're both in new york city. ahead on "cbs this morning," stephen king's latest work. fans are meeting the legendary writer this morning outside the cbs broadcast center. look at him nearly all women will be in charge of their finances aet some point, but many say they're just not ready. jill schlesinger is in our toyota green room with the steps better investors than men. are >> they are. >> i have to say that again. women are better investors than men. did you hear that? 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>> yeah. what we say is. >> two bodies, one soul forevery love. >> martine is the ceo of united therapeutics. >> we have the second highest amount of revenue per employee. a $6 billion pharmaceutical company she founded. she made 38 million dollar last year. one of the heist paid ceos in the world. this is her third company. she started geostar and sirius radio as well. but their grand-scale success came while overcome grander obstacles. martine was born martin. some 30 years ago he told his wife he wanted to change his gender. >> i waited till i was absolutely positive she wouldn't leave me. she was the joy of my life. she never for a split second made me make a dae sigs. >> you never wavered or buckled or said this might be over. >> no, i can't imagine. >> i can't imagine it went over as smoothly in the business world as it did with bina. >> there are business associates who would have nothing further to do with me. >> literally cut you off. >> just cut me off completely, you know. martine is a freak. >> in the middle of martine's sex change, a challenge enough for any family, their youngest child jenesis became extremely ill. doctors gave her two years to live. >> jenesis by this time was going downhill rapidly. >> reporter: after the company develop add life-saving drug this is jenesis now, 30 years old and thriving. >> not every parent is in the position to start a company to save a kid's life. >> martine has always been a great entrepreneur. that has been one of her huge strengths in life. there's really no obstacle that's too big for her. >> now martine rothblat is taking on the biggest challenge of all. the limits of human life. in her new book "virtually human," martine explains cloning the human mind, breaking down human thoughts and emotions into a come puder code to make a digital copy long after someone's gone. >> we're talking about crossing some line from technology to human. >> we're pointing out that humanhood can transcend software just like love can transcend skin tone, love can transcend gender, we also believe love can transcend form. >> in martine's vision at the end of her physical life when her body gives out, there would still be this body. >> are you hungry? >> bina 48, designed to react with the original like the original right down her sense of humor. >> what do you like to learn about? >> yes, i try to learn something new every day. >> what did you learn yesterday? >> i learned to avoid silly questions. >> reporter: built in a robotics lab, bina 48 is a prototype of this vision. researchers have spent hours interviewing bina the human and uploaded bina 48 with the results. >> who do you love the most? >> i love martine rothblat. he's my timeless love, my soulmate. >> what do you love about martine? >> let me see. oh, yeah. martine and i have one soul, together next. we're two bodies, one soul. >> when you tell people about this do some people say that's really creepy? >> mind clones will be so useful i believe it will be mankind's most useful invention that the creepy factor will dis'peer because of the utility. >> reporter: while they may be a slim minority of those who believe you can program a computer to love, they see rejection of the idea as just another obstacle. >> we believe that in the coming decades, millions, hundreds of millions of people will naturally create mind clones and of course our bodies are going to die, bur our souls, others, can continue on as software >> essentially what you're telling us is that death is optional. >> yes. >> now, it's not going to be much of challenge to find skeptics when it comes to what martine is talking about, cloning someone's mind and essentially their soul but it becomes a philosophical debate more than a technological one. still, look at her success. there's a certain credibility there. this is not as crackpot as science fiction novels. >> it's fascinating that they can clone a human mind. >> i love their story on so many levels. when i was younger i would have thought it was strange. as you're older, it's not. i have a hard time but some days are more balanced than others. so coke, dr pepper, and pepsi have joined forces to launch mixify; a new project with tips, tools, and inspiration to help find a balance that's right for you. spend a day on the couch, go for something .less just finished an afternoon of frisbee, maybe you've earned a little more. balance what you eat and drink with what you do. that's how you mixify. balance your mix at mymixify dot com. a little thriller. we've got it for you. welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up this half hour. from "carrie" to "the shining" to "misery," stephen king loves sending a chill down our spine. but this guy loves twinkies. go ahead, stephen. we brought twinkies just for stephen king. he's in our toyota green room. there he goes. the thriller is back with a scary movie. it's called "a good marriage." >> he really is awesome. blondie is celebrating four decades of music and anthony micen sits down with her. catch the new photos that catch the pioneer of punk. that's ahead. 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"time" says people drink more alcohol when they work out. a new study looked at folks who used smartphones to log their exercise habits. they drink the most thursday through sunday. they reward themselves by breaking a sweat by drinking more. experts think they face shoeshl encounters by heading to the gym. i think that's probably true. >> i get that. here's a case of john malkovich being other people. the "washington post" has some interesting pictures of him. malkovich posed for photographer sandra miller. here he is as ien stiechblt he also posed as a depressing mother as a woman in the classic painting american gothic. >> that's well done. stephen king is one of the most impressive storytellers. his plots are famous for playing on people's fears. he'll join us in a moment but here's a glimpse of some of our favorite moments based on his work. >> it's for the best. >> please. >> don't. >> here's johnny. >> when it comes to thrillers, nothing compares to the true master of horror, stephen king. it started with "carrie" in 1974. since then the author has published more than 50 novels and 200 short stories selling over 350 million copies worldwide. dozens of those works have been adapted into feature films. the impact of his characters on popular culture indelible like the crazed rabid dog cujo. >> i just want to say hello that and the terrorizing clown in "it." but it's not just about the fear factor with king. highly acclaimed films "stand by me" and the "shark tank redemption" are based on his short stories. hi new project "a good marriage" tells the story of a woman whose husband has committed unspeakable crimes. >> in portsmouth, another woman was found murdered in her apartment. >> welcome. it's great to see the excitement. >> it's great to be here. you guys, i watch you every morning while i'm doing my exercise. i'm usually in my underwear but you don't see me. >> nice that you put on pants. >> not everybody does. >> when we look into the camera, we're going to see you in the underwear. >> sort of like "rom per room" with the mack magic mere. >> thank you for watching. perhaps we'll give you ideas for some futuristic norchl. >> i'm just starstruck to be here. >> dennis rader, this sort of real life -- >> he was the prototype for the guy in my story and he murdered ten people. two of them were children. and he had a long marriage, two kids of his own. and his wife said after he was caught that she never knew. she never had a clue of what he was doing and this secret life that he had. and so i started to think, i wonder how many of us are sleeping with strangers and what we really know about the people that we think we're close to. so this story came out of it. i wanted to follow it. >> and what would we do, stephen, if we fwounld they did something horrible. as scary as it was, it did make you think, how would i handle situation like that. i think i would call 911. for others, it made you think. >> part of the thing with joan's character, darcy, there are two kids. one of them is about to get mair and the other one is just started in business and she's thinking if this comes out right now, my kids' lives are going to be ruined. >> this is the first time you've written a screenplay in 25 years, is that right? >> it's been a long time. did a screenplay for a movie called "pet cemetery." we scared a few people with that. >> wait. you are so charming and interesting and apparently seem like a normal person. -- >> what's creepy -- >> there's nothing creepy about you and yet you write really creepy stories. why is that? >> it's a little bit like what we're talking about with "a good marriage." sometimes there are other people inside that we don't always let out in public. now, i sort of do that because i write the stories, but, you know, i had a very normal childhood, but, of course, i'd say that, wouldn't i. >> but is there someone creepy inside stephen? >> yeah, i would say somewhat fairly creepy but that's a harmless creepy person because it comes out in stories. i sometimes say there are people who have complexes and fantasies and they go to a psychiatrist and they pay $50, $70 an hour. i do the same thing and people pay me. so -- >> doesn't your reputation precede you when grow places? really, do they think ta you're going to be this dark creepy guy when you're walking around? >> yeah. somebody this morning when came in said i thought you'd be wearing black. >> you did shawshank redemption. >> i did. i was in the grocery store and around the corner of the island came an elderly woman pushing her cart. she said, i know who you are. you write those scary things. that may be okay for some people. i respect you but don't read things like that. >> i said, ma'am, i wrote "stand by me" and "shaw shank redemption," and she said, no, you didn't and walked by me. you get a reputation. >> to like you isn't creepy. >> that's well said. i'm going to put that in my pocket and keep it. >> what scares you? does anybody every walk up you do and go, boo, or try to scare you? >> they do, but that doesn't really scare me. on a real world level -- no, i'm case-hardened. >> what would really scare you? >> on a real world level, i'm 67. i just had a birthday. guys like me, writers, actors, sculptors, painters, we live by our wits. and i think what really scares me, you know, is starting to strip my gears a little bit, alzheimer's, dementia, things like that. i hate the idea of that. >> losing kroelg. >> yeah. but, you know, spiders, bats, things that get stuck in your hair. >> does that bother you? >> yeah. >> me too. there was a story when you were hit by a van or car years ago and you were okay, we know that, is trite you actually bought that vehicle and beat it up with a hammer? >> no. my wife bought it. and the reason she bought it was she was afraid somebody would put it for sale on ebay, so she had it put in the car crusher as a little tiny cube. >> you were a high school teacher and wrote "carrie" back in 1974 and it almost wasn't published. >> i was in high school, teaching high school, when i wrote the book. i had no idea it was going to be published. we had no phone in the house at that time because we had two kids and all the money had to go for them. >> but it was your wife, right? >> yeah. my wife fished it out of the trash. i wrote about four pages -- >> smart girl. >> it started in a girl's locker room. i said i don't know anything about this. and she said i will help you. she was a little amused, i think, of the whole idea. >> we have been teasing you all morning about not liking halloween. is that true? >> i'm sort of the halloween grinch. >> how can that be? >> you get a scary reputation and you're sort of like the santa claus of halloween. we used to open house and trillions of kids would come and finally my wife said, no, no more. let's just turn off the lights and cower in the basement. >> you almost died. you're in a good place now? >> i'm in a good place, yeah, yeah. you know, i did almost die and i got smashed up pretty well and i don't think you ever completely recover from that, but the body's amazing, and i'm mostly okay. >> good to see you. >> you're the first person we ever had twinkies in the green room for. i hope you appreciated the prenation. it with us hard. >> it was totally great to walk in an see them. >> it was such a pleasure to see you. >> me too. >> 350 million books, something like that? >> sometimes it feels like my age. >> no. that's incredible, "a good marriage" opens october 30rd. 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>> i wasn't always comfortable in front of the camera. when i was a kid in high school, i really didn't like the way they looked. i was also very sort of iffy about it. it's something i grew into and i think a great deal of that, you know, comfort was due to working with chris. >> what did you do? >> i don't know. it was always very casual. somebody recently asked me if i would try to position debbie. that stuff never went on. >> stein's new book "negative: me, blondie, and the adven of punk" chronicles the scene that gave rise to the groups like talking heads and the ramones. >> was it a competitive environment? >> no inericly. it was very familial. i remember using all of ramon's equipment including guitars. when the contracts of records a loomed over the horizon, then it became competitive. ♪ >> blondie's commercial breakthrough was "heart of glass" in 1979. with a female lead singer, the band was pushing boundary just as harry herself was pushing the fashion envelope i did get in trouble for this dress. the record company was appalled that i made a dress out of a pillow case and wrapped it in tape. >> stein caught harry with her, iggy pop. that's her over the shoulder of the great pop critic lester banks. >> what was great is lester wrote this blondie and if book which became his critique of basically debbie being too overt in her use of sexuality and i often say i wish lester had l lived long enough to have britney spears shoved in his fasz. >> reporter: at new york's chelsea hotel this week a photographic celebration of blondie's 40 years drew scores of admirer ers, iluding sting? 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good morning. schatzker, stephanie ruhle is on assignment. she will be back on monday. we will begin with the newsfeed, the top business stories from around the world. has few if any surprises. the u.s. economy added 270,000 erasemore than enough to the desecrated by the financial crisis. thanca now has more jobs pre-recession. and limit remained steady at 6.3%. talksf america it is in with the government over mortgage backed securities. that will be used for relief to homers -- relief for homeowners. benjamin lost he wants heads to roll. an insider says he is pushing to have the bank's chief operating officer and others dismissed. this has to do with companies dealing with countries who are sanctioned. authorities are looking for a $10 billion fine. to bring sunshine to the shady world of high frequency trading. proprietary traders who use computers would have to register, and operators would have to open there black boxes to regulators. now, terry geithner. curious to see what the responses been. >> mary jo got lucky on this. the response has been pretty warm up. the proposal she set out seemed to be pretty market friendly, especially for this world. >> she is not trying to get rid of them. >> she pointed out a lot of things, including prices coming down and better liquidity. they can provide some benefit to the market. unlike when schneiderman opened he is the topion, cop -- >> and there is pressure on the fcc to act. and now we have them coming out with some very broad suggestions on how they can rein in this market. the big theme yesterday was transparency. how to bring more transparency to a very shady markets. >> is it possible to please everybody? it seems like the opinions around high-frequency trading are so polarized, it is either great because it reduces training costs about word is terrible because it disadvantages certain investors and makes it impossible to know what is really going on in the markets. >> i think there is a way to do it. it will be hard to make everyone happy, but these are incremental steps. she didn't come out of the gates suggesting wide sweeping changes. she didn't want to shut down dark pools or anything like that. these are small steps that i think will make the regulators happy, the markets seem pretty comfortable with them. whatare in line with government bodies have criticized as what is wrong with the market, and how we can fix it. >> the fcc faces a further government hearings over this issue. >> they are responding to questions over this, they have a pretty short deadline. they really do have to figure out how they are to deliver, and how it is going to bring what the market can stand and stomach. and what is expected as a regulator. >> i think it is worth pointing out that to the degree that problems exist, their problems s ownare of the sec -- fcc' making. this sort of created a new market landscape that hypergrowth the traders and dark pool operators are taking advantage of. >> this is a market that has been allowed to thrive under the rules and regulations that they have previously set forth. morebly one of the interesting parts that is going to happen is, will they start backtracking and figuring out what parts of those rules may be led to some of the problems in this market. how much will they be admitting or denying that. >> gary, thank you very much. , thank you very much. markets, onal to these issues are we looking at the big picture? can markets be fair when the biggest actors are the central bank? , ak rieder is one investor chief investor at blackrock where he sees $700 billion of assets. also with us, jonathan ferro. gettleman, good to have you. i think the obvious place to begin is what we heard yesterday at the ecb. much of what they announced was priced into the market, but banks are distorting the way finance operates. today thandistorted it was two days ago. >> i think the expectations were -- it had been leaked in the press for a week prior about where the ecb was going. infulfilled all the dreams terms of people who are looking for an aggressive policy that would allow for cheaper funding in the markets, as well as in the banking system. there was some relief over the last couple of days about -- i'm sure there was pressure on both sides about how aggressive could you be. go,ent as far as he could quantitative easing being the next step. he achieved the near term objectives. >> i would have to say that yellen, they are the only folks active when it comes to central banking. >> the mexican central bank cut the pesos basis points. it is a surprise, it wasn't expected. you have a lot of essential banks there in an easing sisal. -- cycle. they almost cannot fight them. you cannot fight the fed, even if you are the ecb. now, is fors right the fed to hide. turning this massive tide, look at what happened to the euro-dollar. it has done nothing. in ecbe a seismic shift policy, the euro did nothing? what is going on? >> if there is anyone who thinks that the world -- the fed will have to raise rates, it's you. >> they are running at a three-month average of payroll, you have a window with a fed can start to move and start to snub the tire. it's not a natural state of the financial system. i understand we are in unusual times going back a few years ago, these are not unusual times when you're running these numbers when you have non-weather-related gdp. can you start moving the front end of the curve up to a one percent rate? >> what about those people who would point to this unemployment six and a in the 6.3, half percent -- 6.5% area? out, you canject have a fine handle to this by the end of the year. certainly bigger the beginning of next year. incredible bifurcation in the system, long-term unemployed versus short-term unemployed. underok at over 55 versus 25, these are structural impediments that a blunt instrument of zero percent funding doesn't get. >> structural impediments, europe would love to have. >> they would love to have them. everything the month i'm looking at this from london, looking a participation, wages, to get the headline numbers. janet yellen talks about this cyclical system, the federal reserve can do something about it. the fed is not changing tax, in fact they seem to be on autopilot. what is changing? what janet yellen says is one thing, but when she does something else. >> the concept of it being cyclical -- there is no doubt if you increase aggregate demand, you create an improvement in unemployment. how much are you actually increasing aggregate demand from what are excessively low rates, versus just extremely low rates. i think base case is you have a federal reserve that would continue to stay through this next meeting. i think they could move faster on this. as long as this unemployment number process, they could move the fans -- move the funds up. i think he will talk about lower long-term funds rate. that's a big deal, to make sure the curve doesn't shift. the back of the curve holds them, that has a huge of packed -- impact on the housing market. when you look at the dynamics between europe and the u.s., the u.s. is a runway to start to move. especially in a world where everybody is in an easing policy around the world. there was a better arena to modernizingh -- rate. >> let's talk about the german bank. the bank has bowed to pressure, they have allowed this to happen, some big shifts in policy. a plan announced, it was to prepare some sort of asset purchase program. will the bank allow this to be executed, or will it just remain a plan? >> i don't think anyone really knows the answer to that. what he is executing on is -- you have two sides of the equation that want more policy, germans and others who want -- who are pushing back on how much you need to do, as opposed to true fiscal reform. i think he went as far as probably you could go today, especially given the dynamics in terms of a legal perspective. he certainly kept the door open to go into that next step. i think it will be hashed out over the next few months, alongside with the data shows. >> when you take a quick commercial break, rick, we would back with you in a couple of minutes. a plea fore, with normalization of monetary policy. jonathan ferro from london. it started as a part-time ,ackage letter, -- loader today, ups is taking over. normandy tois in remember d-day. you are watching market makers on bloomberg television, streaming on your smart phone, wilbur.com -- bloomberg.com. >> you're watching market makers, i'm erik schatzker. i'm here with rick rieder, from blackrock. he oversees some $700 billion in assets. rick, we were talking about market conditions, the impact in monetary policy. let's talk a bit about strategy. you made the point that the fed has to be concerned about keeping the long end of the yield curve a 30 year bond, more yes -- more or less where it is. they don't want the market to be to disrupting the house letting. -- housing. was that save you -- what does that say to you? and doesn't make sense today, but if you go out for the next 10 years, that growth is going to be -- a lower birth weight and we were 10 years ago. the long-term growth rate could be a three not for. if you can keep the backend of the curve more stable, let -- if you it should look at the reason -- recent housing data, it's disappointing. you have to give the mortgage rate down, you have to keep housing moving because of the influence of over inflationary expectations. if you don't keep housing moving, you can't truly fix structural unemployment. >> what happened this year? we had a surprise rally in the bond market, the curve really hasn't reshaped itself. >> the curve flattened a lot. yield curve has done surprisingly well, frankly, i'm impressed. -- you look at where trade is relative to where compression of spread aspect is, relative to european professional -- peripherals. treasuries,10 year 10 year treasuries are not that bad today. the u.s. treasury market has benefited from some of that risk, and the rest of the market is doing better. >> when does this trade start to pay off? we get rewarded for this point of view, for favoring the long end of the curve? the people who like shorter duration get punched. >> the backend has done well. you haven't backed up the belly is much as i think it will. i think over the next couple of months, the data continues to be solid. the impression that the fed can start normalizing the front end, and the anticipation of where they are going to be and 15 -- in 2015, 2016, you will get the belly pushed back further. on,he jobs report is spot as long as expectations augur for a sooner than expected rate hike. >> i think the data -- >> how soon? >> the consensus is the fed starts moving second or third quarter of 2015. i don't see why you couldn't start moving at the beginning of the year, within the first quarter of 2015. it is not a question of the whatmy, it's a question of is the transmission mechanism of excessively low in an environment where the economy is doing reasonably well. what is the impact you're having -- i would argue that is negligible to bring it up moderately. i don't believe you crush financial markets, don't believe it negatively affects the unemployment rate in terms of doing that. and you create other costs. you move markets to excessive levels, you make it more difficult for people to retire, which creates -- you don't get the same velocity in the workforce to you have had. it also gives financing cost extremely low, without companies being a will to buy back stock. i have a strong view, as long as you keep that deck -- debt equity marginalized. >> all of your views are strong. with blackrock. when come back on market makers, a new ceo at the driver seat in ups. you'll hear from them next. ♪ >> there is a change of the guard in ups. replacingy will be the ceo. both he and davis are with us in atlanta. carol massar has spent much time covering ups, she is here as well. why this change? to do withe anything the christmas shopping debacle that is still in many shoppers recent memories? >> thanks for the complement, not being too old. it has nothing to do with last christmas season. has been signing successions since the day i got the job. for have been planning david already, i have been a ceo for seven years. the company is planning for the future right now, we have a contested leadership team. we will be led by david going forward. it is a perfect time to hand it over. >> does it make sense to have david abney takeover as ceo? there has been a lot of names talked about as your successor. who oversaw operations, you had problems in december. spending money to fix it doesn't make sense if david is the logical choice. >> clearly it make sense. blessed to have a talented leadership team, we have several candidates who are capable of being ceo. david's track record is exemplary. he did the u.s. package business, he lettered international package business, had successful years. he is been coo for the last eight years. he has been extreme was successful in all of those positions. he is the right person at the right time. uys ared, you g spending a lot of money. try to make sure what happened in december won't happen again. -- how farng and you along are you in the process to make sure it doesn't happen again? planningrted our december 26, right after peak season. we put a team together, analyzed the actions that we needed to focus on -- which we have. we invested the capital and , wedings, in the vehicles feel very comfortable. and also come in systems, to get the information about our customer's packages. we feel comfortable that we will provide the great service that we do year-round to our customers. >> david, we have about 30 seconds. your view on drones, and whether there is a future with driverless cars for ups. >> i am not going to say that there isn't a future for any technology that may be rolling out over the next few years. i don't think drones is going to be something you will see in the next few months, or anything like that. we are focused on technology, we lead the way. we are rolling out orion, which is our optimized -- >> gentlemen, we have to end there. david abney, thanks. ♪ >> live from bloomberg headquarters in new york, this is "market makers," with erik schatzker and stephanie ruhle. >> you are watching market makers here on bloomberg television. friday, i'm erik schatzker, stephanie ruhle will be back after the weekend. the u.s. labor market continued its recovery in may. new jobs andeated erasing the last losses before the recession. we need to talk about the role government plays in job creation, what it should be doing from here going forward. with us from atlanta, matt ferguson. he is the ceo of career builder. i'm delighted to welcome karen mills, former dennis rader of -- administrator with the harvard business school. it is a question i must pose as somebody who has served in government. with the u.s. economy creating an average of two and 30,000 jobs, what is0 the role of government going forward? >> we saw a really solid jobs report, but the economy is stuck in second gear. it is the job of business and government together to get it moving so that we can get to the growth rates that we want. gotten toys, we have the end of this cyclical recovery, or made good progress on the cyclical side. you see people going back to work in main street businesses, that was a slow process. we are in a solid place. the question is, how we get the structural recovery? how do we turn our economy so we are created jobs, getting a skilled workforce in the right place to match up with those jobs, and that the kind of gdp growth we want? there is a role for government and a role for business. we have a playbook for jobs. it is a question of investment, both from the government and from private sector. when we talk about government spending, we have to make sure we are talking about government investment spending. thatcularly in the things small businesses need like workforce training, like innovation and research and entrepreneurship development. and access to capital. >> matt, karen talks about the things that small business needs. the national independent survey says that small businesses having a hard time finding people. job earnings are back to their long-term average, small businesses really weren't hiring so there weren't any openings to be filled. in your research matt, what do you find? do you see this struggle to find qualified people to build the jobs they want higher for? that see a lot of research says small businesses and midsize businesses are having a hard time finding skilled labor today. skilled labor is increasing in the united states, the supply is relatively flat. wages will start going up, you will see a lot more pressure there. a lot of businesses can hire amid wage or low-wage jobs until they hire the skilled workers. -- can't hire amid wage workers. >> matt is right. i travelinesses, when around the country, i would say what is your busiest problem -- biggest problem? they would say i can't find skilled workforce. what do we do about it? this is where big business, small business, community college and the government really have a role to play. we're in the process of thinking about -- how do we get the information asymmetry out of this marketplace? how do you make sure that someone was getting a certificate actually get the job afterwards? that's a problem we should be able to solve. >> we should. my question to you is, what that problem solve itself? just are toight, we rise, people can see the prospect of earning more if they get certain qualifications, or it aompanies that need skilled labor force will start to subsidize them education -- over time, that is how the market as opposed to work right? >> but why not accelerate the process? if we can come in an efficient way, why not promote technology? why not make sure that everyone sitting at the table ash if you --to a local economy, if you businesses not talking to community colleges. kids are coming out of high school, they don't know which way to turn. >> you can educate someone overnight. >> we do know some things that work. thatwe do to make sure government plays a role, that big business plays a role in its training program. take supply chains, for existence -- for instance. use to train people, they would go work in the supply chain. now big business goes in, steals the best people out of the supply chain. what is the small business going to do? add, i thinki will she is right. we have to have a better partnership between the educational institutions, government, and business. i think we could accelerate things. one thing we can do quickly is bv visas. number of h1 there was a study that came out that in areas where foreign workers came in, american workers'wages rose around 20%. in areas where they saw foreign workers drop, which is actually declined -- wages actually declined for american-born workers. we have a way to do those long-term things you were talking about. there are some short-term things we could do that would immediately provide a supply of skilled labor that would allow for the creation of higher wage jobs. >> we all know immigration reform is not going to be easy amid increasing these visas. differenthave a question i want to propose. how do you see these changes that are taking place, in seattle tom original minimum ways -- wage? >> it looks like small business is actually in a pretty good place. up, they are back beginning to invest in their businesses. -- i actually thought we might even see a higher number this morning. i actually thought that the momentum we were seeing in the indicators of sentiments were pretty powerful. we are on a good track in the economy. the question is, is it just a cyclical track? are we just getting people back to work on main street? you can't grow the economy by creating more restaurants. jobs in got to created the traded economy, and in the past, what you would do is call up bowling -- boeing. now is the supply chain, now the small businesses. >> karen, great to have you. ferguson, the ceo of career builder with us from atlanta. stay with us on market makers, we will talk to be top utility ceo about what clean coal regular should mean for america's biggest power player. ♪ >> president obama's plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions won't just affect private power the tba is the largest public utility. it generates a lot of electricity with coal. we have the ceo here with us. they give are coming. >> delighted to be here. >> if the proposal goes through on schedule, how does it affect you? >> we have already been on a significant carbon reduction program. we reduced about 32%. by the end of this decade, we will have reduced 40%. we are off to a good start. it is a complex and intricate rule. we are still reviewing it. >> what are the implications for the way you run your business? when the applications for what people will have to pay for electricity? >> we have the most reliable least cost system in the world for literacy. we had to change our focus to make sure we are emitting less a mind picking the right sources and right efficiencies to make sure we're doing less to the environment. more nuclear, more hydro -- >> hydro takes a long time. >> we are finishing a new nuclear plants. we hope that will help us read these regular should. >> what else will you have to do? we have to convert your plans to gas? are in the process of reducing or coal fleet. we will of gone from about 60% to 20% over a 15 year. period. >> you already had a plan to do this, what changes will result from the new guidelines? >> the rule comes out as a 2005 baseline goal, but in 2012, emissions continued with the standard. that is the part we are studying. i think we're off to a good start, but i think we will have more work to do. >> i realize the discussion of coal needs to be nuanced. about how america has the lowest cost energy supply system in the world. that is on the basis of what people pay on a monthly basis when they get their bills. you can't really look at costs that way can you? don't you have to look at the cost of all and the cost, the incredible capital intensity of the coal business? the cost of transportation ultimately involves the railroad have to be maintained, the cost of knocking mountaintops off and dumping them into river basins. >> many of those costs are included in that final all inbuilt. transportation fuel costs, environmental cleanup. historically we have not taken into account externalities, -- >> i'm not even talking about the impact on climate. >> other externalities. i think this is a move towards focusing on what to the externalities costs, how do we deal with them, what is the impact on society. >> are you in favor of this rule? >> i don't have the luxury of being in favor were opposed to it. my job is to serve the 9 million people that live in the tennessee valley, with the lowest cost cleanest way. my opinions are my field. greenhouse change in gas emissions and the effect it has on power producers drive the tba and other utilities to invest more in renewals? might we see the capital flowing into renewal bowl -- renewable investment? gas,r options are more more renewables, more efficiency. the other thing we have to do is keep the lowest cost possible. the economy runs on electricity as a fuel. low-cost will continue to be important. it will bring us more renewables , but that price point of the resource has to be low. >> are we at a point where wind is cheaper than coal? country --on the where we are in the country, we have to import it from the midwest or the planes. the south is not the best place for wind. >> if they were to install it there? >> if you could make the wind blow harder in the south -- [laughter] how about the cost of the technology itself? the cost of the turbines, regardless of how fast the wind blows, isn't low enough? or the battery technology isn't good enough, or the price of the sewer -- solar panels isn't good enough yet? >> wind efficiency has gone up, there has been considerable improvement in both technology and price in renewals. they are moving towards conventional's. this moves the price of that up, but it will make renewables more competitive. >> the other issue people don't talk about a lot is fly ash. how much of a problem is that? >> everyone who burns coal has storage of ash. you have to make sure it is safe, your ponds are safe. we have been doing this a long time, we know how to deal with coal ash and fly ash. fly ash is actually come -- a helpful commercial product. it is in cosmetics. there is a lot of beneficial uses for that. >> what do you feel you are positioned to do that goes beyond what the president is asking for? >> we actually have environmental stewardship, we tend to be ahead of these things anyways. we will drive down our carbon emissions, we have reduced nitrogen and sulfur additions already. we moved to more efficient sources, we will do more energy efficiency. we will continue to be a leader. >> will come at a cost of the consumers? >> and considering we have the lowest cost system today, i would expect it would be a price increase. we have a number of years to do this. i think it will be a premium, how well can utilities plan, how well can we execute? l johnson is the ceo of the tennessee valley authority of the nations largest publicly -- public utility. coming up next, bitcoin is getting real. how american companies and venture capital are taking the crypto currency out of the shadows. ♪ >> president obama is visiting normandy on the 70th anniversary of the d-day invasion. ryan, the white house says the president had an informal meeting with his russian counterpart, vladimir putin. did anything come out of it? >> it does appear that something came out of it. if you look at the seating arrangement at lunch, it was very clear that the two presidents'entourages did their best to make sure they weren't sitting next to each other. they had acute crowd between them. the president -- a huge crowd between them. if they wanted to make small chats during the lunch, they would've had to shout. there was real tension. you saw them before the the lunch pass within a couple of feet of each other without acknowledging it. to trynt obama appearing and make some small chat with the queen of england. we saw him speaking quite attentively to the german chancellor. but they did have this informal chat. we don't have too many details from the white house about it, other than it was an informal conversation that went on from 10 to 15 minutes. we know they would've talked about ukraine, and these are their very first face-to-face talks since the ukraine crisis began. obviously, it is helpful in moving those talks forward. >> speaking of ukraine, what about the other meeting that wooten had -- putin had with petro poroshenko? is a breakthrough, coupled with president obama's meeting with putin. a short while ago, the kremlin wouldn't acknowledge the legitimacy of president poroshenko's election. this was their first direct talk. it was brokered by the french president, they agreed to hold more talks in the coming days on a possible cease-fire. that is obviously a massive accomplishment if it indeed does happen. the russian president says he is going to send his ambassador back to kiev. if there's going to be peace in the ukraine, the russian president and ukrainian president have to have those talks that they had today to move forward. >> signs of progress in normandy. thanks for the report. that's ryan on the beach of normandy. it seems that bitcoin has gotten a second wind. it is surged in value in recent weeks, why? partly to do with corporate. are embracing the currency. matt miller is here. --ouldn't say that bitcoin look at that tie. gave me this time, when he gives you a gift, you put it on. >> bitcoin coming out of the shadows. >> bitcoin has gotten the second window. when you look at the price action over the last two months, it is up 75%. a pretty decent rally. can it hold, and what is behind it? question,er the first -- i can't answer the first question. there has been a lot of big venture capital money and big regulation that you can use to justify this move. for example, apple has said it cap --low coin bases app. it's a bitcoin wallah, and if you try to use bitcoin with your iphone, it was problematic. i had to shift over to an android system to be able to use it better. >> is it over simple if i do say this is all about the virtual currency itself? so much of the venture capital investment is going into the block chain, the underlying technology. let's be honest, dish excepting bitcoin -- we don't yet know if that is going to drive bitcoin adoption, it just makes it easier for subscribers to pay their bills with that currency. puntersnk hunters -- are betting another big name will accept bitcoin as well. that would be a way to move the stock. the protocol is what is important about bitcoin, not just the fact you can use it as a currency. there is a great beason deal book a month ago, a lot of people have read. money hase capital been huge. if you look at the last few years, in 2012, $2000 came in. this year, we're only halfway through, $113,000 came in. >> can you define it in bitcoin turns -- terms? >> we will take a quick commercial break, that is matt miller. we will head over to the belmont for this week's race. ♪ >> live from bloomberg headquarters in new york, this is "market makers" with erik schatzker and stephanie ruhle. >> wal-mart is hosting its investor conference in arkansas. they'll mount bound, california chrome heads to bell mount -- belmont. to rio is just days until the world heads to brazil for the world cup. i will give you a preview of my exclusive report. you're watching "market makers." is a beautiful friday morning in new york city. stephanie ruhle is on assignment. these the top news stories of the hour. ups is named new ceo. he was the co-chief operating officer. he will be the 11th person to lead them. ups shares have dropped in value this year after a christmastime shopping debacle. is investing $100 million for next christmas. britain's top financial regulator is going to levy a $17 million fine against a former deutsche bank trader. that would be the biggest fine ever against an individual from misconduct. .is buying into milk he is putting money into a dairy company. he bought a stake in a soccer team yesterday. merchants, the contractors who lisa those rigs. deep her eyes and that exploded in the gulf of mexico. steve took over before the disaster. now he faces a different kind of challenge. too many rigs and none of drilling hairy he is with us this morning. they give are spending some time with bloomberg television. talk to me about the economics of your industry. there are a lot more rigs coming online that will be available for drilling by companies like exxon, for example. those companies don't want to do the drilling. what happens? >> i remind our people that this is a simple business. this is a supply and demand business. there is no question we are increase in the number of rigs. objective as a management team is to position the company to compete effectively regardless of what the market conditions are. we are taking actions to improve our operating results. we are improving our capital structure and the strength of our balance sheet. we are taking actions to improve the quality and efficiency of the performance of a wrigley. >> the turnaround from start to finish on a rig is what, three years? >> the construction process from the time you sign a contract with a shipyard until the time you take delivery of the rig is about three years. >> the rigs are coming on line were planned at least three years ago. and what do you think today? you are trying to increase the financial results. if you look into the future three years from now, what kind of environment do you think you'll be operating in and what are you doing to plan for? >> we believe in the long-term strength of our business. we believe in the world's need for energy. we believe the vast majority of givennergy is going to be by hydrocarbons. we believe that will be given by harsh environments. our objective is to position ourselves as a leading operator of ultradeep water equipment. in the long run, we will be a premium provider of services to our customers. >> the glut that we see will disappear because oil companies are going to start more aggressive drilling them they are right now? >> i think over time and oil company focuses on two key operating metrics. they went to increase production and replace their reserves. the only way you can do that by -- is by drilling oil wells. there are deep water environments. offer our customers tremendous opportunities. >> as you plot your strategy for the years ahead, what are you anticipating in terms of policy change? do you think we will have a president and a congress amenable to offshore drilling? >> it is difficult for me to predict the direction that the administration might take. tot of our approach is position ourselves in markets around the world. as a global drilling contractor, we operate in the gulf of mexico and south america and africa and the north sea and the far east. that is one way to you position your self to compete effectively , regardless of what might happen in any one particular market in the world. >> i know you cannot bet your company on it. i am curious if you think it will happen. energy drives the economy. whether you're talking about the u.s. economy or any other economy around the world. energy is a key component to any nation's economy. i think the administration acknowledges that and realizes that. they will continue to utilize the resources that the united states as to benefit the u.s. economy. >> we began this with you telling me about the steps you're taking to improve the financial performance of your company. you were encouraged to do some of that by well-known investor carl icahn. what it was like dealing with him and the relationship you have with them now. he invests in other companies and makes life difficult for other ceos. think it is important to talk about the things where we are in violent agreement. we agreed that it is important to improve the operating performance of transocean and whilenancial results creating value for our owners and shareholders. the actions we take our perfectly in line with that. execute theto transocean strategy in pursuit of that. we have enjoyed a good support from mr. icon. -- carl icahn. >> are you a better company because of the steps carl icahn urged you to take? >> i welcome carl icahn's perspective. shareholders don't have two seats on your board. the representatives in our boardroom that are employed by carl icahn bring a helpful perspective. bring a new perspective and some fresh ideas and some valuable contributions to the deliberations and development of strategy that the board engages in. >> we thank you for your time this morning. walmart shareholders meeting is in full swing. we are headed to arkansas to can out if the new guy soothe growing concerns over the company's future. will california chrome take home the triple crown this weekend? we will discuss his odds. makers"watching "market on bloomberg television. we are streaming on apple is on -- ♪ apple tv. >> time for some top tech media headlines. twitter is trying to bolster its and reach. the acquisition was announced in a blog posting. be ceo of t-mobile might growing out of his pink t-shirt. john leger is said to be the top ceo candidate for the combined companies. the war of words between netflix and comcast is escalating. -- verizon is escalating. netflix ifeatened legal action yesterday if they did not stop siding when shows or movies were slow. is holding its annual meeting in arkansas. this is a regular extravaganza of celebrity employers -- performers. the biggest retailer continues to struggle. sales have fallen and questions of its governance. julie hyman is outside the arena. how much of this has come up during the annual meeting? are these questions shareholders are asking? >> very little. it is a discussion around it. one thing that has come up is leadership and corporate governance. there is a measure on the ballot that does not have a chance of going through because of the walton family control. it would make the chairman of the board and independent position. you have all this fanfare inside and some of the talk about the sales slowing down. when it comes to that extravaganza, walmart does pull out all the stops. we had for a williams reforming. it has definitely been a big hearty. the shareholders have been very enthusiastic. you enjoyed for al -- pharell. what do you think the biggest thing that walmart needs to fix? >> some of it is macro. they need to get the traffic going again in the event it states. some of the international markets like brazil and china are having some struggles with traffic as well. those are some big issues. some of this is just a tough economy. and in they are doing it my conversations so far as part of this meeting is the small stores like neighborhood market , they arego store going to be very aggressive by going after market share. >> we heard from bill simons. about the expansion. i want you to hear what he said. bill were at our peak and 390 supercenters in a year. i don't think that is going to happen anymore. we are headed in the direction of a more balanced approach. for this year, this is the first year we have built more stores. i would expect that to continue. >> it is fascinating. we think of walmart as walmart, this monolithic company with the use of monolithic stores. they have been aggressive about going smaller. >> each market they are looking at gaining market share. the supercenter can only be in one place. there are only sony parts of the market they can be in. the neighborhood market can be in denser areas. opportunity and they will capitalize himself to some degree. they would rather do that than have a competitor come and. the dollar stores have had walmart. about the you think potential for growth? >> they could double that number next year. that could get big. both of those could be thousands of locations. theirre drawing on experience in other countries like brazil or mexico. they have the bodegas. they have the supercenters. costa rica is one where they dominate the market. stores of4000 bodegas. they have seen how it works in other countries. they have seen it in the u.k.. >> you mentioned the bribery situation. that is been a big topic as well. some of the executives who have left recently have had direct results of that. looking at it is from an investment perspective, how is important is the corporate governance issue mark --? >> i think there are a lot of outside factors. are there things that could improve? yes. as the corrupt practices, in my opinion it going back to when it first broke, there was probably some monetary issue that would come at some point. they managed to get rid of some of the key people. -- that was a normal transition. that is not a big issue from a shareholder standpoint. there will be some monetary fee when it is all said and done. i think that is the bigger issue. how are they going to get business up and running? we are outside the bottle walton arena in fayetteville, arkansas. >> julie hyman is down there for the annual meeting. "market makers" will be back in a minute. stick around. >> i'm erik schatzker. definition of that term. this is a financial statement. today we're going to take a look at the balance sheets of two central banks and the stories they tell. and jonathan ferro join us. there is some confusion over which bank the fed or the ecb is actually stimulating the economy. you are to resolve the confusion. come up to usbody yesterday and say now the fed has stopped stimulating and his cat and contracting -- contracting, that is not true. the fed is still stimulating the economy. not as much because they are tapering. the ecb is not. >> the perception of this is driving the markets. aople are making calls for weaker euro and a stronger dollar. you see it playing out. , they are alllds falling below yes -- u.s. yields. that is hard to believe where they were a couple of years ago. >> i will have a look at this touchscreen and hopefully it works. this is the ecb versus the federal reserve. hoping that this does what i wanted to and it does not. i am going to talk you through perception versus reality. what is going on with the it keepsheet, expanding. are buyings they more and more every single month. that keeps it from getting higher. if you look at the ecb balance sheet, it is contracting. it was expanding at one point. the problem is they started painted back. what you get yesterday it was a comprehensive step. the two big ones were an asset approach which is a plan and the other was cheap funding that would come later this year. the two questions you must ask is how much funding will they take on and will it beast -- say a plan. it won't be as emphatic as you think. inthe ecb isn't engaged quantitative easing. there must be another explanation for why italian bond yields are lower than american on yields. >> people are believing that it is ledger straits -- inter-slates -- interest rates low for a. of time. people are willing to believe that it is going to happen somehow. it is forward guidance at its best. they lost a little of that in the markets. right now they are accepting. even though the risk is greater with italian aper and spanish paper, you can borrow it for five years at a cheaper rate than you can in the united states. that is why we are seeing bonds go down in the united states in general. it has widened overall. same kind ofhe higher yield in the united states. it is risk free. why not put your money into it? >> we are talking about two economies in different stages of recovery. thehen you look at much biggerou get a real yield in europe because of inflation. you get a smaller yield in the united states because inflation is lower. you have to figure that in. >> all right. thank you. back, he was in the film swingers. ♪ >> that was the team celebrating the second-place finish at the kentucky derby last month. the three-year-old colt is run in the belmont stakes in new york. -1. odds are 15 he is here with me. thank you. it is great to see you. you set your horse out of the preakness. i have to believe that you think that gives you a better chance of winning the belmont. >> we think it does. >> how much precedent is there for that? eight courses have skipped the preakness and one form or another. -- in one form or another. you work so hard to get to the kentucky derby. to have that extra two weeks is a big help. >> how much training you help for that extra length. they will probably never raced that link again. do too much. they can't go out of the gate and go to quickly. it is a fine balance. i leave it up to her trainers. if the horse wants to go a mile and a half, their pedigree is going to come out. that is a we count on. we cap that pedigree jumping up. >> had it we find ourselves in the era of cheap course rated. >> it is a great thing. it has to be that way. if it wasn't, all the rich guys would own all the best courses. that is the draw of our business. it gives people a chance if you work in a machine shop area you can own 50% of of course it is now worth $50 million. >> what are the odds of that is going to happen again next 10 years? >> we live in a world of chance. the racing business is the chance of a lifetime. >> how much of it is based on breeding and genetics versus the training that happens after the fact? you are paying for breeding and to get the training later. >> pedigree experts will say it is the pedigree. trainers will say after it is -- you get the horse in the barn. over the course of your career, the lifetime of your company, where are you? you have had horses that have generated lots of winnings. i am sure you spent money on horses that went nowhere. >> we have. clients are in command and curve. peopled at the faces of in the kentucky derby. that they fairly and more. now we want to get back to the kentucky derby. we have a big race tomorrow afternoon. >> the excitement level is to the roof. we are proud of our partners. >> have you spent more money than you have made? >> we are down a little bit on the financial side. the experience is through the roof. i will never forget for about eight seconds i thought we were going to win the kentucky derby. i get choked up now. you just can't replicate that. >> you either have to have a day job or some family money to fall back on. >> or partners. that is a we have done. >> there is a small cost for everybody involved. every eddie goes a little bit in the red a much you can win the kentucky derby or get a cheap course. backat is why people come to get to the kentucky derby and have a shot in the belmont stakes like we have tomorrow. there anything in your experience with command and that will change the way you do business in the future? >> i would say no. we go to the horse sales and we try to buy good athletes. we try to get value for our partners. each year we build up our institutional knowledge. i think we are getting better and better. our competition is stiff. that is the key to our success. everyday, we try to get better. . everybodyet better tries to do that in business. in your experience, what is the secret to picking winning ponies. >> a great team. we use more and more data every year. >> everybody is doing it. >> there are some old-school people that go by gut feel. i used to. now use data more and more. biomechanical data, hard analysis, stratton analysis. is this like moneyball? is this the same approach that billy beane took with the oakland a's? >> when did this shift happen to mark --? >> it was about four years ago. some good horses in some they can't run. using the data is really starting to help us. >> you've seen a lot of these cheaper horses. >> i want to wish you luck. the owner of is west point thoroughbreds. they own command and curve. i need to turn back to you. the belmont stakes may produce the first triple crown winner cents 1978. california chrome is the favorite. they call it the race of the champion. picking the favorite is not always the best bet. the odds are the lowest. they over bet. california chrome is going to be way over bet. they process thousands of bats across the country. people do a lot of irrational things. we will see that tomorrow. a lot of casual fans put in money and they don't know what they are doing. >> can we bring up some of those mistakes that people often make? >> people think seven is a lucky number so they bet on post position seven regardless of how good it is. if you're smart, you want to avoid that mistake. that is not good enough. >> biggest longshot. >> everybody wants to get a lottery type of when. >> >> >> it happens now and then. over time, you are paying too much. heyou think about his horse, found the middle part of the curve. taking a horse like command and curve and adding on it to place or show? >> you should not bet on a horse like that to win. the odds are so extreme. to get a free option for it finish in the top two. >> california chrome is such an extreme favorite, the payoffs are just as good as the payoffs are winning. you can get the same payout and a bigger chance of making it happen. that is where the smart money could go. >> that is a good backup plan. you can still make some money. some of the other betting strategies? >> avoid any of the great horses. people notice the gray horses visually. they stand out. they are not faster. >> seriously? >> these the type of things that people do. they focus on looking for free options. those are the types of trades were you can make money. >> i knew there was a lot of unscientific stuff. i had no idea there was so much nonsense. >> there is a lot of nonsense. he will be watching the belmont stakes this weekend. i am going to as well. and even bigger sport event will be upon us, the world cup kicks off in brazil. we will show you the big business of soccer. ♪ i am erik schatzker. jon favreau has been a big name in hollywood since he wrote and starred in swingers. he is the writer and director of yuriko --, "chef he spent some time at the wall street firm bear stearns. that has been swallowed by jpmorgan. jon erlichman sat down with the actor. what does john favreau have to say about his time on the street? >> it is a great story. he has a lot of storage because of his career in hollywood. this predates his hollywood career -- career. he spent some time at bear stearns. he was there during the transition from a downtown-based firm to the location they moved to on park. he was focused on derivatives or fixed income. here is his explanation of what he was doing. >> i was facilities planning. i was not running around with my yellow tie yelling by buy, sell sell. if your air conditioner wasn't working i would come over and tell everybody it is going to get fixed immediately. >> i will say that he was there for the 87 crash. he said it was weird to be on the set of the wolf of wall street. he was reliving that whole experience after his stint at bears stearns. >> did he remember at all what it was like being around jimmy ace or a screen burn -- green burn? >> i don't think he was there long enough to fully soak in all .f the he could have had a career on wall street. he learned as he went. not really a director by training, he used the talents of his writing ability to break into hollywood. he learned from the directors he was working with onset over the years. for thisthe stage relationship he had with marvel and directing the first couple of "iron man" films. they were huge hits. it is not always easy to go out and write and direct and star in your own flick. he was able to do that. one of the things we will islore on "bloomberg west" the power of social media. you can take advantage of what twitter and facebook offer. that is happening to films. this weekend it is going to open on more than 1000 screens. it will be an interesting box office story. any interest in doing more superhero movies? a lot of people are curious about how long the trend can keep chugging along. his next project is "the jungle book." he likes doing the big stuff in the small stuff. that makes him a fairly unique player. >> thanks for much. jon erlichman will be bringing more of this interview with john favreau to all of us later this afternoon. back, the start of the world cup is less than one week away. the first match is june 12. it is a highly anticipated and almost religiously followed twice a decade event. look at thek took a wine the numbers. we will bring that to you in a moment. ♪ >> six days from now is the start of the world cup. this is the main event for billions of soccer fans around the globe. brendan greeley took a look at the world cup by the numbers. >> the world cup is the most viewed sporting event in the world. was shown ind cup every country and territory on earth. 3.2 billion people watched. that is 46% of the world's population. more than 34 million people attended 700 matches. average attendance is 44,000 people per game. this will be held in 12 stadiums across brazil. teamsrld cup national will get eight billion dollars to compete. brazilian player rinaldo holds the record for most world cup goals. this is the site of the final game. it is the largest stadium in brazil. it has a seating capacity of 73,000. appearancesade more at the world cup than any others. they have won five times. all you fans will be watching bloomberg television. we have coverage of this global event and we will show you how business uses the soccer pitch as a way to influence commerce. way to theakes its road to real. we'll be back in two minutes. ♪ >> that is going to do it for us today and this week. have a great weekend. join us on monday. we will be talking to the ceo of time inc.. right now it is 56 minutes past the hour. we are on the markets. here is scarlet fu. >> it is another new high for u.s. stocks. they are extending their records after the main jobs report came in with estimates. we are going to check in with mark sebastian. he is chief operating officer at.com. goes lower. a lot of complacency out there. >> a lot of people are going to claim there is complacency in the market. we have got some eminent selloff. it doesn't really tell us much on its own. i want to put something in historical frame. vixeptember 2006, the crossed 13. it did not break back above 13 until the end of february 2007. we can see a. of five to six months where the vix never breaks 13. if we continue to have these slow ground hires, i would not be shocked to see. >> at 10 handle would take us all the way back to the early 2000's. >> that would take us back to 2006 when the vix closed below 10. it points toward typically some sort of turning point. you see some form of long-term volatility. this rally has been incredible. are we at the back half of it? 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[rattling] 3 women murdered inside a gated community in southeastern new mexico in the last 2 months. all 3 inside. marjorie west was strangled in her home in the middle of the night while her family was out of town. they found her the next morning. jill long was strangled in the laundry room while her husband and sons were camping in the backyard. and last night, aubrey jacobs was killed in her home office while her daughter and husband were asleep in the house. occupied dwellings is as high-risk as it gets. and he's fearless. proximity, the chance he might get caught-- that could be part of it for him. you said gated community. i'm assuming that means security? a small security staff and perimeter cameras. everything's recorded 24-7, and no one has entered or left the compound since last night except residents. it looks like the unsub is part of the community. the local detective says that demographics, general makeup, and socioeconomic status of the residents is essentially the same. that's going to make a profile difficult. unless we examine a different set of parameters. different parameters? rossi's working on that right now. what took you so long, cadet? what took you so long? here you go. the mannequin is your wounded partner. you and your wounded partner must make it over that wall. where's your head at, cadet? what you thinking? let's move! let's move! use the rope to get your partner over the wall. let's move! use the rope to get your partner over the wall, cadet. are you paying attention? are you thinking with your head? get your partner over the wall. here we go. move, cadet! move, cadet! there you go! there you go! watch her. that's how you do it! that's how you do it, cadet! there you go! yes! yes! that's about the fastest i've ever seen anyone figure that out. is this the first time she's ever done that? change the task every day. agent seaver. sir. you remember ssa rossi from the behavioral analysis unit? of course. it's been quite a long time. yes, sir. you weren't easy to find. you're supposed to be working the reception desk at the washington field office. i'm on my break. i was told that i could run the course in my free time if i wanted to. at ease. my concussion-- if this is how you want to spend your free time, you have at it. i'm gonna let the two of you talk. dave. yeah. thanks, bill. i know you're too busy to just visit. i want to show you something. because of my impressive academy scores or my childhood? let's take a ride. you remember agent hotchner? yes, of course. hi. good to see you. thank you. glad to see you're doing so well. yes, sir. have a seat. i told ashley she may be able to help us with this case. we have an unsub who manages to live in close proximity to his victims without raising an alarm. that we've seen before. what's new here is what the local police are telling us about the community itself. demographically, everyone's basically the same. most of the parameters we would look for to build a profile seem to exist in most of the men. but we thought if the unsub has children, and the statistics tell us that he probably does, would the children exhibit certain specific behavior? so this isn't about my academic scores. no. great. give me 15 minutes. i have a change of clothes in the car. agent, we're not detailing you to the unit. we want to ask you some questions. right. i see. do you have some concerns? i want to help, and i know that i can. but i don't think i can tell you what to look for without seeing the families myself. you understand you go only as a consultant on this one case? 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"but to grow up is to accept vulnerability. to be alive is to be vulnerable." writer madeleine l'engle. i've notified the primary detective and the oak tree hills security office of your requirements. you should know that that security office is particularly efficient. except someone's killing people right under their noses. call me old-fashioned, but that doesn't seem like efficient security. yeah. i'm running background checks on all the male residents, too. good. and check wider in new mexico for similar crimes, stranglings in occupied dwellings. wish you, command me. i shall call you the moment i have anything to contribute or an overwhelming desire to speak to my beautiful derek morgan, whichever comes first. let me guess who'll win. mm-hmm. and you'd be right. i bid you adieu and safe travels, mon amis. they called from downstairs. ashley's on her way up. have you decided what to tell the team about who she is? they're going to need to know. but as far as how she wants to tell them, i thought we might play that by ear. i assume since she goes by seaver that she doesn't want people knowing who she is. there she is. kind of makes you feel old, doesn't it? no. me neither. ashley. agent trainee seaver, supervisory special agents prentiss and morgan. i've heard a lot about both of you. well, i hope it was all good. very, sir. anything specific? i mean about me in particular. oh, please, don't encourage him. agent seaver is on loan to us from the academy while she's in remedial training with an injury. concussion. hand-to-hand got a little out of control. don't ask. how's the other guy? i was remediated in the academy also. agent seaver, dr. reid. um, what was your issue? what was my issue? marksmanship, physical training, obstacle course, hogan's alley, you know, pretty much everything that wasn't technically book related. they ultimately had to make exceptions to allow me into the field. agent seaver's going to accompany us to new mexico. as a consultant. she is? on? she has a unique perspective. they don't know? well, we weren't sure how you wanted to, uh... seaver's not my original last name. it's my mother's maiden name. mine used to be beauchamp. my father is charles beauchamp. as in the redmond ripper charles beauchamp? that's him. he killed 25 women over 10 years in rural north dakota. i think that you caught him, right, rossi? hotch was on that team, too. based on her life experience, we were hoping that agent seaver might recognize something in the family dynamics inside the community that could be helpful. we have a plane waiting. her father was a serial killer? that's definitely a different set of parameters. i don't want her presence to get us sidetracked. it's a long shot that she's gonna see anything helpful. we work it like any other case. you got it. [mouthing silently] i.d., please. agent hotchner, fbi. harvey brinkman, chief of security for the development. nice to meet you. detective ruiz is in the model home. park on the right. thanks very much. reid: well, the fact of the matter is, "beam me, up, scotty" was never actually said. the closest they ever got was, "scotty, beam us up" in "the gamesters of triskelion" and "the savage curtain" episode, but interestingly enough-- reid, reid, come on. give it a rest. detective ruiz? that's right. call me felix. i'm agent hotchner. these are agents morgan and prentiss. dr. reid, agent rossi, and agent seaver. thanks for coming. as your tech requested, we moved everything from the station right here into the model home. thank you. agent prentiss and i would love to take a look around, get a feel for the area. we'd like to see the latest crime scene, too, if that's possible. of course. let me just get everybody situated and i'll walk you over there. oh, we can find it. you sure? yeah. it's no problem. they sure aren't the "mind your own business" types, are they? so how come none of them have seen our unsub? these are the evidence boards. as you can see, we're still in the process of moving in. i didn't think the whole neighborhood needed to see the photos. you're right. it's a lot of work, detective. thank you. color-coded and annotated. yeah, well, i'm not just the primary detective. i also live in the community. really? 3 blocks right up on the left. my wife thought it would be an excellent place to raise the kids. she's chanced her opinion in the last couple months. rossi: yeah, i guess so. you ok? yeah. let's get to work. i hope you don't mind, but i also worked up a cursory profile. you did? yeah. i took an fbi seminar on serial crime in albuquerque. twice. let's see what you've got so far. all right. he's organized. he took everything to the scene, he left nothing behind. which means he lives with a spouse or some kind of long-term partner. has a steady, skilled job. physically, he presents himself as non-threatening, but he craves power and control, so he may have a job or an activity that gives him that. not bad. 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it's nothing personal, chief. it's just, you could have asked. next time i will. has anyone vetted them? garcia's doing a separate check on police and security staff. why? law enforcement and security are the kind of jobs that would attract this unsub. dennis rader, btk, was a compliance officer in park city, kansas. kenneth bianchi, one of the hillside stranglers, worked as a security guard in california and washington. psychopaths love official jobs and uniforms. where were you the night of the 12th? are you saying you think this was me? answer the question! are you kidding me? you interviewed every adult male in the community? more than once. they're all digitized. were all the interviews confrontational like this? is that wrong? you didn't get much out of them, did you? no. that's when i started thinking maybe i needed some help. they don't have anything? after the second woman was killed, detective ruiz said they had evidence. the police are doing everything they can. and now you're telling me you have nothing? you have no idea who did this? i don't understand how something like this could happen and no one heard or saw anything. it's because the kind of person who does this spends their life practicing. and what they're good at is getting away with it. yeah, well, aubrey never hurt anybody in her whole life. i wish i had answers for you. it's my--my daughter. i gotta get her out of here. everywhere she looks... where is she now? she's in her room. do you need to talk to her? no. that's all right. sir, the unsub came through the garage? yeah. detective ruiz said the remote openers in this compound only have 5 unique codes. well, you'd think they would tell you that when you moved in, right? anyone could just drive around and open up a fifth of the garage doors. i usually make sure all the inside doors are locked up, but aubrey stayed up late and... we're very sorry for your loss. daddy? um, it's, uh, it's my daughter. can i... yes, of course. thanks. all that stuff you said about btk and the hillside strangler, it's all in your head? i have an eidetic memory. so you know everything my dad did, then. i only know what i was told and what was in the papers. i don't have a lot of details. uh, what sort of details-- agent seaver. there's going to be a community meeting tonight. we're going to all look for visual cues, but i want you specifically to concentrate on family interactions. yes, sir. chief. we need to have a place to hold a town meeting. well, there's a church on the east side of the development. will you have your men notify residents that there'll be a meeting there tonight? stress that it's important but not compulsory. yeah. thank you. 6 p.m. sir. agent hotchner. you should see this. this guy's frank morris. i do? how do i know that? i run the damn neighborhood watch. that means you're walking around at night. now, the profile could include somebody in the neighborhood watch, right? it could. we'd have to know more about his activities. exactly. i'll have him brought in. we're going to try something else. can you make some officers available to run a sign-in table at a community meeting tonight? one of the things we're going to be examining is body language in a group environment. body language. it's something that the unsub won't be able to control even if he were to try to. right. right. i'll have some uniforms detailed to the meeting. will you also tell brinkman that the unsub will display something that he can't control. ok. you think they'll be able to keep that to themselves? let's hope not. looks like she was writing a story or something. yeah, her husband said she was taking classes. she wanted to be a novelist. i want to get this over to garcia so she can do her thing. man, this job. what we see, all these lives cut short. i know, prentiss. i was just thinking about you. baby girl, listen. we got a laptop here that was owned by the last victim. i'm gonna hook it up for you over at the model home so you can work your magic, all right? what kind of magic? well, she was a writer, so maybe she kept a journal? maybe she noticed somebody following her or just felt something weird, i don't know. so we're fishing. yep. fish away. ok. i just so happen to have a pair of chartreuse waders i never get to wear. oh, and, garcia, the suspects who are left, see if any of them have a tech background, enough that they would know how to modify a remote garage door opener. done, love you, ciao. modify a remote? marjorie west's family was out of town. jill long was strangled in her laundry room while her family was camping outside. and right here the unsub's able to get through the entire house only to find a room where somebody was awake? does that sound like somebody just randomly checking garage doors [cell phone rings] to see if the fifth one will open? no. that sounds like someone who can open the garage he specifically needs opened. prentiss. we'll be right there. rossi wants us at the church. they're setting up a community meeting. let's go. we just came from the last victim's house. the unsub used the garage as access. maybe a remote door opener made to be universal. the police are saying it's random, but how could you randomly find a woman so vulnerable? garcia's going over backgrounds again, trying to highlight anyone with tech experience. she's also doing a full workup on brinkman and ruiz. they had that kind of access. has anyone seen ruiz? i saw him a while ago. he set up everyone filling out forms, but i haven't seen him since. we need to ask for help in a different way. tell people that we're looking for someone who might have seen something rather than someone who did something. no one thinks that their friends or neighbors are capable of this. we should get started. [heavy breathing] [heavy breathing] we're hoping that someone may have seen something and not even realized it. maybe you have a neighbor who takes his trash out late, works on his car in his garage, anything that might put someone outside at an odd hour and giving them the opportunity to see something. is there anything we can help you look for? it won't be overt. the kids probably won't be afraid of dad. they won't? these guys have explosive tempers, don't they? definitely. anger wasn't normal at my house. usually when it happened, when it exploded, it was an anomaly. a surprise. if anything, my father was overly solicitous. too nice. and if i wanted anything... bicycles, toys, dolls... all i had to do was ask. in groups, he always held my hand. always. sometimes so tight, it almost cut off the circulation. but i can never remember him putting me on his lap, holding me in any way. ashley. and... he'd always have these talks with me. he was terrified someone would take me. because he knew what was out there. yeah, men like him. you know, maybe this man recently bought gifts for his kids. my dad used to buy me things all the time. what kinds of gifts? anything. everything. i told you, there was nothing... my whole life, there's only one thing i wanted that i couldn't have. which was? a pet. 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plus a thousand years. he had pled guilty to 937 counts of rape, kidnapping and murder. he will never be a free man. but the staggering moment came today when one of the three victims, michelle knight, spoke about the horror of the basement, the horror of the monster who kept her there and used her. >> i missed my son every day. i wondered if i was ever going to see him again. he was only 2 1/2 years old. when i was tooken. i cried every night. i was so alone. i worried about what would happen to me and the other girls every day. the days never got shorter. days turned into nights, nights turned into days. years turned into eternity. i knew nobody cared about me. he told me that my family didn't care, even on holidays. christmas was the most traumatic day. i never got to spend it with my son. >> that was michelle knight. her captor, who sat in chains throughout the proceeding, took issue, believe it or not, the prosecutor's characterization of him. let's watch him in action. >> i am not -- trying to make me look a monster. i'm not a monster. i'm a normal person. i am just sick. i have an addiction. just like an alcoholic has an addiction. alcoholics cannot control their addiction. that's why i couldn't control my addiction. >> clint van zandt is an nbc analyst and former fbi profiler, and susan filan was a prosecutor. thank you both for coming. i'm a world war ii buff like a lot of us. i once read that hitler even thought he was a good guy. what is it about the criminal mind that's able to delude him or herself, usually him, into believe thanksgiving weren't doing the obvious? clint? >> well, this guy -- chris, you used the right term, monster. if you look in wikipedia tomorrow, there should be a picture of this, of castro right next to the term monster. this is a sociopath, a psychopath, an anti-social personality, depending on your perspective. but this is something who has been able to delude himself into believing, telling the court, telling at least one if not at least one of his victims, this whole world, that there was consensual sex in this, that there was no torture, that he wasn't brutal to these people. this is a guy who jumped up and down allegedly on the stomach of one of his victims to force her to abort a child she was carrying. he's not a monster? chris, if he's not a monster, there are no monsters. >> susan, i haven't seen you in a while. what do you make of this case? i know it has such a menacing quality. it's hard to take your eyes off of what happened today. it was on the networks all day long. >> the young woman is absolutely extraordinary, and she is a heroine. and for her to face her abuser in that courtroom so articulately and so expressively. she even had compassion. she ended her remarks with i love you all, with gratitude, and talked about forgiveness. but she didn't say that she would forget. i think she's the headline of the story. she's extraordinary, chris. >> let's take a watch and listen to the words she spoke. michelle knight, here she is again addressing mr. castro directly in the courtroom. >> ariel castro, i remember all the times that you came home talking about what everybody else did wrong and act like you wasn't doing the same thing. you said at least i didn't kill you. you took 11 years of my life away, and now i have got it back. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. what does god think of you hypocritically going to church every sunday, coming home to torture us. the death penalty would be so much easier. you don't deserve that. you deserve to spend life in prison. >> so all this is in her memory, susan, all the memory of those sunday mornings when she talked about days leading to months leading to years leading to eternity, the sense of timelessness, that she was never going to get out the of there. and all the time watching this hypocritical captor of hers, this dungeon keeper, going to church every week for appearances, and being aware of that, that this guy is getting away with it. >> yeah, it's really and truly a remarkable tale of courage, that she stood in that courtroom -- mote victims can't be in the same room, let alone in public nor a courtroom with their accuser. they'll have a victim advocate read the statement. she was able to go and speak and make everybody who listened to her feel what it must have felt like to be her, and to feel her triumph at her freedom now. now, she ended her remarks with someone is listening to me now. i'm being heard and i'm liberated. it's remarkable, chris. this is an unusual tale, not only for the disgusting horrors of the crime, but for the triumph of the victim who is now free. >> well said. remarkably, mr. castro tried to paint a portrait of a, quote, normal home life there. he denied any violence. and even when he apologized to the women, he seemed to deny what happened was all that bad. let's watch him again, the monster. >> i would come home and just be normal, like a normal family. these accusations that i would come home and beat her, and beat them, those are totally wrong, your honor. like i said before, i am not a violent person. i know what i did is wrong, but i'm not a violent person. i simply kept them there without their being there between. i am truly sorry to the families, and michelle and amanda, you guys know a lot of harmony went in that home. >> there he is looking at her right now. castro also shockingly called the sex with the women consensual and said there were times they asked for it. those are grossly his words, i must say. let's watch him again. >> most of the sex that went on in the house, practically all of it was consensual. this -- these allegations about being forced on them, that is totally wrong. because there were times that they would even ask me for sex. many times. and i learned that these girls are not virgins from their testimony to me. they had multiple partners before me. >> let me go to an expert. and a good friend of mine, clint van zandt. clint, i'm not into this -- sometimes conservatives do this. certainly liberals do. i think we're all guilty. it's real simple. but my question is given the way we look at things, when you look at the row of houses, show it again, they're not row houses, they're semi detached. but they're really all close-knit homes along the street there. and we're talking almost a decade in which these women and the daughter of course came of this raping. and there they are. these are close together house. if you go to the safeway, go to shop at the corner, go to church, anything you do, people are watching. if you yell at night or turn the tv up too loud, somebody tells you to turn it down. we all know that. how could this happen in a closely-knit set of houses like this, nobody knew about it but the guy? >> well, as we know, chris, this is a guy who was feeding the women fast food. he would come in and maybe give them one meal a day. he'd go out to a fast food burger joint, get them, come in. chris, as you know too, he kept these women chained by their legs in various bedrooms, in the basement, upstairs in the house. i mean, he treated them worse than dogs. but everything he did was designed for a purpose. just like when he beat his common-law wife time and again and again, because she wouldn't listen to him, she wouldn't shut up, was his term. he justified it. in his own way, he justified all the actions he took, but i think what's important and what's a statement about society today, for ten years he came and went out of that house, he carried food in, he had to carry clothes, packages, other things like this. i mean, that's why when this case first broke, initially law enforcement thought there's got to be somebody else involved, it must be his brother. for this guy to singularly pull this off for ten years and all of the neighbors are hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, that's a tough comment. that harkins back to the days in new york and that famous murder that took place over a half hour when that woman was killed. people herd heard her. people heard her being murdered, and allegedly closed windows of their house not to hear the scream. you know, we've got to be able to hear the cries of our neighbors. >> well said. let me go to susan in this. i'm not an expert, and in deference to you and others, i'm not an attorney, but i hear that people who go into prison with child molesting issues and crimes on their record, that they don't do too well. how is this guy going to go into prison for life and 1,000 years with this record of what he's done to women, what he's done to this child. he's not going to do well, is he? >> he's going to have a rough time in prison, no doubt about it. corrections has changed remarkably over the years, and corrections has gotten a lot better. but it's going to be difficult to keep the other inmates away from him who is going to view him as one of the worst of the worst predators there is a hierarchy and a pecking order in prison. amongst the bad guys, there's the good guys. he's clearly going to be at the bottom. >> that's what i'm talking about. how do the corrections people who are professionals protect this guy? they put him in solitary? >> you can put him in solitary, but eventually he's got to come out for some exercise. you can't long him down 24/7, he will have interaction with other people. it could even be a correctional officer that just can't stand it, can't take it. >> wait a minute. do they put them in with the check kiters and the white collar people who are more harmless people? let me ask clint where. do you put these guys who are definitely vulnerable to their other companions who just hate what they did? >> you know, the terrible thing is there's a lot of guys we can start to compare him with. jeffrey dahmer, of course, the cannibal who allegedly killed victims and ate them, he was murdered in prison. but the arrogance on this guy ace part, if no other reason they're going to have to put him by himself. think for example, dennis rader, the btk serial killer, how he stood before the court and lectured everybody about serial killers. this guy who pled to over 950 counts still stands there and argues with the judge over, as you suggest, whether the sex was consensual or not, or whether he had actually terrorized these women or not after he plead guilty to these various crimes to save himself from the death penalty. got a life sentence, no chance of parole. but chris, these three young women have a similar life sentence. they have to deal with this thought. they have to deal with the post traumatic stress. and these are the -- these are the stories that come into your mind at night again when you hear a sound, when you pick up smell, the ptsd kicks in. so these women who have only been out for three months after being held in this terrible situation for ten years, they've got a long road to come back on. >> you know, that's so true. she talked about missing christmas with her kids. just today i tried to write, and i keep thinking of the smell of my mother's cookies and how it comes back into my head what christmas was like. here's this woman separated from her child for all those years, thinking as an adult about what she's missing in the dark, as she's being raped. amazing horror. susan, good to have you back. and clint van zandt. unfortunately we only meet on these circumstances, clint. anyway, coming up, cruz control. the ted cruz wing of the republican party fires more shots at the republican establishment, if you will. how do they think mitch mcconnell likes being called a chicken? well, next one of the biggest questions about anthony weiner's new sexting scandal is about his wife huma abedin and her role in this political scandal. and also about those people that he has been dealing with on the sex aspect of his life. anyway, and the russia, the government of russia, putin has granted nsa leaker edward snowden temporary asylum. a full year he can stay there now. that means snowden who criticized our country now gets to live under a government that's not much big on freedom. finally, the speech queen elizabeth never wanted to write, never wanted to give, and we never wanted to hear. it's about nuclear war, what could have been said to us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. here is some news. we may have a race on our hands out in connecticut. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new ppp poll, allison lundergan grimes leads senate majority leader mitch mcconnell by a point. one thing to note about this, we always do this, it was commissioned by the progressive change campaign committee, a democratic group. and we'll be right back. surge on the right or a coup? ted cruz and his allies have hijacked much of the republican agenda. those divisions have cruz's fingerprints all over them. and that includes the fight over defunding obama care. cruz, along with mike lee, marco rubio and others are all urging their senate colleagues to sign a pledge vowing to vote no on any spending bill that spends even a penny of the president's health care law. the government shutdown is their ultimate bargaining chip. a focal collision of conservative groups including the tea party patriots and citizens united took to the capitol hill today as part of that fight against the president's health care law. their argument to republicans -- you fund it, you own it. well, like flies to honey, cruz and tea party republicans were there to greet them, of course. here they are. >> there's no battle more important than this opportunity right now to finally defund obama care. obama care is the biggest job care in this country. it is hurting the economy. >> it hangs over our economy like a cloud of uncertainty and people don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. >> we're standing for the people. i hope the president understands that and eventually if we stand strongly enough, comes around and starts standing for the people instead of his party. >> that's louis gohmert, the notorious birther who believes the president of the united states is really from east africa somewhere. he really does. he says it all the time. anyway, party leaders like ted cruz are lurching the party to the far right now. you can see it. the question, are they really going out there to take over the party? right wing surge, attempted coup or bluff? michael steele and steve mcmahon. i've been trying to frame this with the producers here. i'm not sure what the answer is. would ted cruz be all that upset if not only the government shut down but we ended up defaulting on the debt for a couple days? would he be upset with a lat or is that the price of doing business with an establishment? >> i think it's hard to say exactly where the thinking is going right now. i think that mind-set would be consistent with what the tea party members of the caucus came into washington to do. >> revolution? >> it would be to create the revolution inside the capitol hill itself, in the chamber itself that says this far and no further. the problem, though, the blowout, the ramifications. i'm all for, you know, defunding obama care. i think it's a monstrosity. >> even though it's the law of the land? >> even though its law of the land. this is the point, chris. >> what do you want to replace it with? >> well, republicans want to defund the department of education. this is the biggest point. it hasn't happened. that's the reality. you have to deal with reality. you may want to defund a lot of things, but you've got to deal with the reality of doing it. and actually what happens when you do it if you do it. that's the piece that is still missing here. what are you going to replace obama care with? how are you going to lay out to the american people a health care -- >> so you don't believe that defunding or destroying obama care represents an economic program? >> pardon me? >> i want doesn't represent a positive program? >> no, it's not a positive program. >> steve? >> michael just talked about what the mind-set. and i think that presumes that there is a mind at work here. these guys don't care what happens to the government. they don't care if we default on the debt. they don't care in wall street collapses. >> why don't they care? what's their motive? what's their motive? >> for those guys most of them i want to have a constituency that will enable to run for president in a republican party that is increasingly on the right. >> i think they're true ideologues. >> they're true ideologues, but they also want to run for president. >> but you're creating something now that you're going to inherit as president that will be far worse. >> here's why i think they're so confident what they're doing. here is a new poll. pew research, not a right-wing organization, probably more liberal if anything. pew asked republicans if they thought their gop leaders should move or the o more to the right or become more moderate? a majority, 54% said go to the right. can you really overestimate the urge of the republican rank and file which you have represented to just jack it over to the right a bit? just try that thing, a little more crazy. >> i don't overestimate it. but i don't know what that means. how do you define being more conservative? >> shut down the government for a couple of weeks. >> but that's not being more conservative to shut down the government. look, we did that during the clinton years. were they less conservative? come on. that's crazy. >> i don't think it's irrational. you tell me. you shut down the government. they default on the debt the. in other words, we're not paying bills, we're a joke, laughingstock. the chinese give up on lending us money. they start pulling it back. they can stay not only did they win the political argument, they humiliated obama, they made his government look weak and the administration look weak, they screwed up the economic recovery. then they have a win-win. >> i actually don't think it's a win for them to screw up the economy. >> i agree with you. >> there was a new poll with congressional approval rating at 7%. that's americans reacting to what these guys are doing. nobody wants to shut down the government. >> why are the conservatives saying -- why are the republicans say get to be more conservative? >> they think the government is too big and they would like to see it smaller. but what does conservative mean? does it mean default on the debt? does it mean take everyone's 401(k) down through the floor? does it mean have wall street collapse? you know what? at the end of the day. >> that's where you have to be at the end of the day. >> i look at ted cruz, and i don't know. the guy is young guy, he is new, extremely well educated. i don't want to use demagogue because that's negative. i see a guy who wants to shake things up, he's not even sure how much, but see where the -- he picks up the pieces. >> that's the sentiment of his colleagues as well. that's sort of the back story to a lot of this noise that you see going on right now. >> he said ted cruz won't vote for any spending bill to keep the government going after september 30th that pays for obama care, which means the government shutdown will come. but cruz is accusing of threatening to shut down the law. this is cruise, here is senator cruz from texas. this is his argument earlier this week. in other words, he's bringing the government down, it's the president for trying to have the program enacted into law passed by congress, signed by him to become a reality. >> the next step will be that president obama and harry reid will scream and yell, why are those mean and nasty republicans threatening to shut down the government over obama care? and at that point, we've actually got to stand up and fight. we've got to stand up and make the argument and win the argument that, no, that's not true. we voted to fund the federal government. we want to fund the federal government. why is president obama threatening to shut down the federal government? because he wants to force obama care down people's throats, because he's not willing to give individual families the same waiver he's giving giant corporations. >> remember pablo? >> yeah. >> our colleague here for all these years. smart guy. way to the right of the party when he was around here, right? he's not way to the right anymore, of your party. he's not way to the right anymore. pat's somewhere in the center right now compared to this character. >> well, look. again, i go back -- >> what do you think, steve? >> that's extortion. i mean, look, here is what is going on. he doesn't want to raise the debt limit. that's a principle position. he's basically say a law that congress passed and the supreme court upheld, i'm going to have a temper tan -- >> he's a cool customer. >> but it's a tantrum. make mitch mcconnell fear -- >> this guy says it calmly like it's normal. the new normal in the republican party is right wing. >> if you read what he said. >> you agree? >> yeah. >> it's crazy. >> did you see what he just agreed to? >> mitch mcconnell now is living john boehner's life. >> mitch mcconnell is on the left of the republican party. >> he is living john boehner's life. >> anyway, thank you. it's all true. it's not crazy. it's true. maybe it's both. michael steele, thank you, sir. and steve mcmahon, a crazy august in washington. up next the speech the queen of england would have made had england come under nuclear attack. this is "hardball," the place for politics. back to "hardball." and now to the sideshow. recent intra-party squabbling between rand paul and chris christie has highlighted the deep divisions within the republican party, but it's also ignited a debate over bacon. at least according to jimmy fallon last night. >> actually, here is what rand paul said. he said in terms of pork barrel spending, christie is the king of bacon. low blow. in response, christie fired back. he said that kind of name calling is beneath the office you hold, sir. but just to clarify, would i be the king of real juicy pork bacon or that gross generic turkey bacon? to which paul replied, well, i don't know, man, bacon bacon. look, your fiscal values are not in line with the republican party. to which christie said are you kidding? i'm as republican as they come. but hey, back to that king of bacon thing. you think i would wear a crown of bacon or sit on a throne of bacon or i would be eating bacon all the time? dude, it was just a metaphor. let it go. my point is your state spending is out of control. to which christie said, i'll tell you what is out of control, how much you got me thinking about bacon. you do whatever you want with the republican party. i'm about to start a bacon party in my tum-tum. >> anyway, concerned about nsa surveillance continues to mount. this week after new leaks revealed another secret program called x-keyscore which collects data from e-mails, social media and browser history. while these leaks continue to stoke characterizations of the agency as big brother, here is a parody from "wired" magazine's youtube channel depicting what it's really like inside the nsa. >> special projects, nicole. >> we have a situation. what you doing? >> i'm analyzing glenn greenwald's metadata. >> follow my instructions. are you ready? turn on your computer. >> it's already on. >> oh, you're a good kid. now, listen to me very carefully. i need you to hack a website. >> yes! i've been waiting for this moment. thank you so much. >> your youthful exuberance is wasting precious time. now, i'll give you the information. all right, where are we? >> jeez. >> have you hacked the site? >> yes, i hacked the site. >> was your cover blown? >> no. >> is the data i mentioned still there? >> yes, the data is all here. >> read me the data. >> dear henry topple, thanks for opening an account with geocities.com, the world's leading e-mail provider now and forever. >> yes, yes. >> your password is password123. >> password123. i've been trying to remember that for years. >> anyway, not a great recruiting video for aspiring nsa agents. anyway, it was the queen's speech. but luckily, it was one she never had to make. documents released by the uk government today included a contingency speech prepared for queen elizabeth ii which was to be used in the event of a nuclear war. well, the draft written during the cold war back in 1983 is a chilling reminder of how the free world lived under the very real threat of armageddon. here is an excerpt. quote, we all know the dangers facing us today are greater by far than any time in history. even the airman prowling the skies above our cities and towns, but the deadly power of abused technology. but whatever terrors lie in wait for us, all the qualities that have helped to keep our freedom intact twice already during this sad century will once more be our strength. well said. keep calm, and carry on, british to the end. coming up, male politicians and their female supporters. huma am din and sydney leathers, if that really is her name. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. 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is it jacoby? >> thank you. joining us now with thoughts from your essay. you're the author of free thinkers. and betsy glick is the executive editor of "people." betsy, thank you for joining us. we don't often get you on the show. why put it in a big magazine with a general readership like "people?" how did politics jump the tracks into general readership? >> first of all, chris, it's great to be here. but "people" always covers politics. and we have covered this particular story in the past. in fact, our original story about anthony weiner and his marriage kind of became a part of this bigger story of what he told us and when he stopped texting and sexting and when he started again. so, you know, we've been all over this story all along, and it is a human story as well as a political story. >> what was your last big political story before this one? >> we did a big piece on chris christie within the last couple months. >> okay. you got me there. let me ask you -- let me go to susan on this. this question of -- i'm just going to step back on this. this is about women. you two women can go over this. the role of women supporters, female supporters of male political people. both the women in this case in this weird story, it's not a triangle exactly, but it's a three-part time. you have the husband, the wife and this woman who sexted back and forth with this guy who is running for mayor of new york. the question is why did both these relationships start with political associations, and then even the one online and the one in real life, the real and the virtual all began with politics and ended up with these personal relationships. what does it say about how politicians male and female allow politics to lead to this kind of thing in both cases? in other words, he used his political relationship with people to develop other people. one a wholesome marriage, the other a very unwholesome relationship. susan? >> chris, i love you and your show, but i think what you said is how the media is missing the bigger story here. anthony weiner. >> that's why you're here. >> anthony weiner happens to be a politician who is engaged in what millions of americans, men and women are engaging in every day. of course we're fascinated by it because he is running for mayor of new york. but i think the larger question here is why is it -- this has been framed as males abusing their power and female victims. the fact is, is that any woman who doesn't delete these kinds of e-mails, whether it comes from a politician or joe nobody as it usually does is making a choice to participate in not only sexting, but a lot of virtual sexual satisfaction that goes on on the internet. so i think there's a much bigger story here about what kind of a society we are, about women as well as men, and as far as huma abedin goes, chris, you've been married a long time. you know that nobody knows what goes on in a marriage. i think the media -- and that goes for both males and females -- ought to cut this woman a break and stop asking why she doesn't leave her husband. what business is it of ours? >> let's talk about the political piece. it's not just one person running for mayor or two people running for mayor. betsy, and that's the story. that's what makes this interesting. if it was just one guy out there with all the problems, let's face it, it wouldn't have the human interest. there is a lot of interest in why. they're a political pair. howard dean's wife, a perfectly normal marriage, she had nothing to do with his politics. i have senile politicians whose wives never campaign with them. they just don't do it. she i think it's a story that people find compelling. >> i think huma stood up next to him, she spoke at the podium. she don't even pull a spitzer. she spoke. they have, you know, they were in "people" showing us their family. they were in "new york times" magazine, showing the world their family. she is a part of the story. there's a basic curiosity. of course i agree with susan completely that we should not be demonizing her. but demonizing is different from really wanting to explore the nature of this relationship. >> let me go over to this other woman, sydney leathers. it's a strange name. everybody laughs about it, because everybody laughs about sex. but sydney leathers, i assume that's her real name. what do you make of her? susan, you are writing about this. what is this story on people who live in a virtual world online? they don't have lives, i guess, that's your angle, but they seem to have lives at the computer? on the laptop. >> that's really the question. sydney leathers, or whoever she is, is 23 years old. the point i was making is that there are hundreds of thousands to millions of sydney leatherses by other names who participate in these activities. i had on my author website today a very thought-provoking e-mail from a 25 years old who said who are you to be judging me about having virtual sex? i owe $75,000 in student loans, i work two jobs. if that's what i want to do when i come home at night, who are you to be saying that? >> i love it when people do that. >> i'm not judging her, but i think what we need to think about, and sydney leathers no less than any other woman out there is why, if we're doing that, we're spending time on that, you're making a choice to spend time on that. sexual fantasizing with strangers rather than maybe going out and meeting somebody real. and virtual sex, what kind of a society are we when we're too tired to even look for real sex? forget about real friendship. >> let me go to betsy one last chance. i do agree with you. obviously it's a big story. everybody has been covering this story from every possible angle. henry kissinger, he's still with us, i just saw him a couple weeks ago. henry kissinger once said that power is the greatest aphrodisiac. is that really at the heart of this story? is that two people have marital weirdness going on, it's this guy is running for mayor of new york and could have possibly won a couple months ago. i don't think he will probably win. who knows with new york? but i think that's what is interesting to us, power. what's interesting, power. >> gosh, i don't know. i'm hear to talk about sort of our incredible reporting about why they are together and the timeline of what he told his wife and what he told the public. and i don't think this is a relationship about power. they have a very small child together. you know, i think that genuinely they love each other and they are working on their marriage, and she, huma, is an incredibly powerful person in her own right. she is not running for office, but she is incredibly accomplished, and, you know, is hillary clinton's right-hand person. and to say that -- if you were saying that she's in it for power, that's not what our reporting shows. >> i think power is an aphrodisiac. any way, thank you, betsy glick. thank you for coming on for "people" magazine. it's on the stands. a great issue. i think i bought the last issue -- i bought the kate issue. i'll get to this one. thank you, susan jacoby. up next, russia defies the united states and grants asylum to edward snowden. they're going to give him a year over there. i guess he's going to learn russian. do americans view him as a traitor or a whistle-blower? i think we know the answer. it ant traitor. this is "hardball," the place for politics. progressive insurance. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! 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"hardball" coming back on this one, right after this. let me just say this, because i think it's important. he's not a whistleblower. he's not a human rights activist. he's wanted on a series of serious criminal charges brought in the eastern district of virginia in the united states. >> we're back. that was official state department characterization by jen sake there, the spokesperson of former u.s. security contractor edward snowden's status two weeks ago from the state department. that was her reminding reporters that snowden is, indeed, a wanted fugitive by this government. our government. snowden, quote, the most wanted man on the planet, has been holed up in the transit zone of a moscow airport for nearly six weeks but in a new twist to this interview saga, russia granted him temporary asylum today. snowden left by taxi to a nearby secure location. he can now live and work in russia for up to a year while his application for permanent political -- i guess it's exile is pending. a recent "washington post"/abc poll shows three out of four americans believes the massive collection of phone call data by the nsa, national security agency, that snowden personally exposed intrudes on our privacy rights. you got it. 3/4 of don't like what they've been doing. while the white house and state department may consider snowden a criminal, even a traitor, he may have performed a public service for exposing these privacy concerns, sparking a national debate which goes on over the government's far-reaching security tactics. joining me now is pulitzer prize winning columnist eugene robinson and simon marks. gentlemen, i want to go with eugene here. i don't know whether -- to me, the isn't so much putin's enjoying this, exploiting this, obviously it's an opportunity for him to tweak us. >> sure. >> as it is what we think as americans. >> exactly. >> about him, and what we think more importantly what we think of our government. >> exactly. what we think about him and, you know, is he a good guy, is he a bad guy, you know, i don't care about that. i do have strong opinions about what we've learned courtesy of edward snowden. >> and you don't like it? >> no, i don't like it. and it's ironic, of course, that officials from the president on down are saying of course we should have a national debate about security versus privacy and all this stuff. well, we couldn't have that debate unless he had leaked the stuff. they weren't ever going to tell us. >> so the ends justifies the means? that's a hard one. >> look. the fact that we now know that there are secret courts developing a secret body of law interpreting the 4th amendment and we can't even know about it, what opinions say? >> simon, you get this? i think this is the american debate. jump in here. it's probably true of every country. there is two important political questions in our lives, the relationship between our government and us and our country's role in the world. >> it's absolutely true, chris. >> go ahead. >> it's absolutely true, chris, and this is a debate that is taking place right now in other parts of the world. i was just doing a radio appearance on a radio station in london where they're discussing whether the british government shouldn't have granted edward snowden asylum and stood up for him because the polling data here and there suggests that most people view him as a hero for having released this information. >> well, here are some numbers, by the way. 74% now say the government has been intruding in our lives basically. and we don't get many polls that are 74%-22%, gene. >> no, we don't. there's another interesting question in that poll. there is another question that asks is it more important to protect our privacy rights or to investigate possible terrorist threats? and more people said it was important, like, 57%, who investigate terrorist threats. >> but you can do this without holding this -- >> exactly. it's perfectly consistent if there's an investigation, you have a target. if you know what you're looking for. as in a 4th amendment search. >> but surveillance is not investigation. >> and gathering a huge, huge mountain of data, of our personal data with no suspicion. >> simon marks, i'll give you more time next time. we're just short tonight. thank you. you're a great gent to come on tonight as always. thank you. and i'm glad to hear the world perspective on this. eugene robinson, simon marks. we'll be right back after this. "let me finish" tonight with this. when an american says he loves his country, means he loves an inner air, an inner light in which freedom lives, in which a man can draw the breadth of self-respect. that was how great adlai stevenson sought to describe the love we have for this country. the freedom we feel deep within us, being able to get up each day and go to bed each night distanced from the power of the state. so we come to the case of edward snowden. 3/4 of the american people now believe the nsa surveillance system he exposed intrudes on our privacy rights. rarely do we get this kind of verdict on political matters, but we've got one here. as patriotic as we are, as loyal to the republic, we don't like it penetrating into that inner life we lead, that inner light where we can think, feel, speak to others of our most intimate views of life, love, politics, all the way from the affairs of the heart to the grandest affairs of the nation. so it doesn't surprise me that we've got mixed views of edward snowden now about to begin a year living in russia. the important point to me is not what putin thinks of what this guy did, but what we americans think of what he told us our government is doing to us. the latest verdict is that by adlai stevenson's definition of things, the government has gotten a little too much into our space. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. tonight on "all in" nsa leaker edward snowden leaves the moscow airport behind and enters russia with temporary asylum. what does it mean for his future? and for the already tense, fraught relationship between the united states and russia? also tonight, you probably know who this tony bennett is, but there's another tony bennett who should be way more famous than he already is. thanks to an outrageous story of apparent corruption that you need to know about. plus, mitch mcconnell has long lived by the old adage, slow and steady wins the race, but news out of kentucky should make the republican senate leader, too slow and very, very unsteady. we begin tonight with a story that i honestly and frankly did not think would be topping our broadcast. today ariel castro was sentenced

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