deficit, a ballpark number. what's your guess, 500 teachers, 1,000 teacher, more than that? >> i'm not going to guess, john. we have a $40 million projected deficit just in the school department on a budget of $310 million in the school department. we're going to do everything that we have to do to close that budget, but to also make sure that our kids get educated. if i knew with more certainty the number of teachers, we would have given out less notices. we would have sent out less notices today. >> and your teachers union just like we've heard from other public employees unions in other places across the country, ohio, wisconsin, indiana, for example, they view this as war. i want you to listen to the president. will this is beyond insane. let's create the most kras on and the highest level of answerity in a district where teachers are already under unbelievable stress. now i know how the united states department felt on pearl harbor