conservative organizations and thaeurp contributor their contributors and tax substitute tuesday and so forth. this one we are talking about with our news watch panel today, the justice department seizing phone records from the associated press, especially those who work in washington looking for answers as to who leaked a story that was ultimately favorable to the administration but perhaps damaging to national security. once again judith miller is our guest along with marvin kalb. eric holder we have just learned has recused himself from involvement in this ap case, marvin. and apparently it s because he did testify he was interviewed when they were first looking for answers as to who leaked this information. i just want to get your thoughts on his recusal here. well, on the recusal itself i can t offer any terrific insight, i don t know, let s wait and see what he says.