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The supreme court to be hearing. if you are trumps team, what is perhaps the strongest argument that they have and then what do you think the colorado lawyers will do to push back against the argument? >> there is a number of arguments theyre gonna push. therefore the focus on political questions, put that front and center, saying this issue of whether or not donald trump engaged in the insurrection is a political question. and its beyond the reach of the court to determine, something more appro...

Of them together, so for the democrats have said they are not willing to entertain you and parole reform but applicable to willie to actually make the compromises necessary, to stop the flow of migrants at a border. brian: i understand over to become up to the organizing about my visit straits, under threat, handy to stay. they say okay come years and heres a court appearance in the going to say no, go to a different part of your country, apply for an accessory that would help but what about per...

There was not an insurrection, hes not an insurrectionist -- the determination on faces i think that was a very interesting question that you asked. i have seen determined faces on women after the court came down with their dobbs decision. and women recognized that we are forced back into the dark days when abortion was illegal. if they take away our democracy, if they say there was no insurrection, its gonna be a horror. so im very, very -- i believe they wont do that. and i think -- and i wish...

Of them together, so for the democrats have said they are not willing to entertain you and parole reform but applicable to willie to actually make the compromises necessary, to stop the flow of migrants at a border. brian: i understand over to become up to the organizing about my visit straits, under threat, handy to stay. they say okay come years and heres a court appearance in the going to say no, go to a different part of your country, apply for an accessory that would help but what about per...

Putting their finger on the scale here. >> really quickly, i want to ask you the same exact question, because as an immigration rights lawyer, you are on the ground constantly. youre having conversations with different people, so again, to you, why has it been so hard for this country to come to terms with what happened three years ago? >> i think that the rhetoric of the current debate, whether its around trump, whether its about immigration, theres huge amounts of polarization on both sides. s...

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Argument that they have, and then what do you think colorados lawyers will do to push back against that argument? >> theres a number of arguments theyre going to push. theyve really focused on political question, kind of put that front and center, saying that this issue, whether or not donald trump engaged in an insurrection, is a political question. beyond the reach of the court to determine something more appropriate for the political branches. personally, i think the court is more likely to d...

On the legislative history of that amendment. if you look at actually what the debate was in congress at the time, the colorado supreme court has the better argument by a country mile. the issue is just given the makeup of the court, i really dont expect a determination that donald trump is ineligible to be running for president this year. >> right. to ornatos point, he talks about the makeup of the court, which leads me to question how much legitimacy the supreme court has right now. we all kno...

Hes not an insurrectionist, they bar the door. and determination on faces, i think that was a very interesting question that you asked. i have seen determined faces on women after the court came down with their dobbs decision. and women recognized that theyre forced back into the dark days when abortion was illegal. if they take away our democracy, if they say there was no insurrection, its going to be a horror. so i am very, very -- i believe they wont do that. and i think and wish they would d...

Think its very important to sort of take a step back and just look at this through a legal lens. i want to start with your reaction to south africa, arguing that the actions of the israeli military constitute genocide. whats your reaction? >> i take a pretty measured approach to this. i have to say that despite israels reactions and israels horror, that south africa has filed this claim, the claim is far from frivolous. on the other hand, its hardly clear cut. and the reason its neither frivolou...