first time we chanted it? it must be in the back of his head. where the bald spot is. in the back of his head that mueller s charged five people with crimes, in addition to the 19 russian who s we don t have extradition agreement, they ll never see a courtroom. five of the other four have pled guilty. with paul manafort it s just a matter of time. he s 68, 69 years old, again, easy cases to prove. why is he holding out? i have no idea. it s his constitutional right to go to trial. he wants the best deal he can. you get the best deal if you re the first person, he s going to be the fifth, so he s got to have something really, really good. unless he s really a russian agent. i m not kidding. i m not even kidding. he will not make a deal if he s really a russian agent. what do you make of that thought, ken dilanian? well, to that point, the past two days have led a lot of people to reevaluate paul manafort. we learned in that indictment yesterday by the time he joined the
not only that did that not work out, it s to his detriment. mueller has the baddest attitude about manafort. he sthaerves no knock warrant at his house in the middle of the night. he does not like this guy. it may that be manafort s holding out now because he doesn t have a good deal. even if he pleads last question. trump or manafort, who has brought more trouble to the other guy s doorstep? i think they both have hurt each other. a bad chemistry there. thank you very much. coming up, are we starting to see signs that something might get done about guns? florida s governor is now calling for raysing the minimum wage to buy a gun 21 but with the nra dead set against that. and trump reading from nra s talking points, the republicans go along? you call that one. plus, as they talk about the issue of guns, is there room in the democratic party for a moderate pro business candidate for president? we ll meet the first candidate
partner in crime writing, quote, not withstanding that rick gates pled today, i continue to maintain my innocence. i had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue the battle to innocence. for reasons yet to surface he chose do otherwise. this does not alter my commitment to defend myself in the charges piled up against me. gates becomes the third trump campaign official to join what one ally describes as team america. gates, along with former national security adviser mike flin and former trump campaign adviser george papadopoulos are now cooperating with the investigation and providing special counsel bob mueller with any and all information including testimony, documents, electronic files, or anything else it requests in return for leniency. as this news was breaking, donald trump addressed a wildly
than two years. and so, again, there s i heard today he might get probation. is that possible? yes. he only gets probation if he delivers donald trump. let me go to ken. ken, what are you thaerg is being proffered here? what the plea agreement says if he offers substantial assistance, mueller s may may not oppose a motion for probation. so probation is very possible in this case, chris. evelyn. i just want to add one more thing. i don t think many people notice but in the indictment they mention that he was the link between the campaign and the rnc. and there s a lot of question about money. you know, the money that they both got from their shady dealings in ukraine. did any of that money end up in the campaign and did any of that month end up going to the rnc? i think that s another interesting element of all this. after president trump referenced his former rival hillary clinton today, the cpac launched into chants of lock her up. let s watch that show. we have a ve
some visibility into the business side of trump s dealings. he worked for tom bear rick and was close to tom bear rick, a close trump friend who has done business with. and we keep on hearing that mueller s investigation might veer off into trump s finances. he might have insight there too. i want to know about the buzz. you re in the room, you hear other conversations, illinois know what s going on. does rick gates now about what happened in trump tower in june? does he know about all these meetings with kislyak? there s a lot of things that goes on with politics. was he there to get this stuff and rat these people out, manafort and trump? i would imagine if he s close enough to manafort, not only is he around enjoying the buzz, but he may be getting a buzz with manafort over drinks or something on another occasion because, again, they have a special relationship. the other thing is what did you think of manafort s statement today i didn t sell out this guy did?