reasons enough for real reasons, so he has every reason to treat this one. this way. i agree with ellie. i don t know how you would treat the other ones because they re far more serious, with far deeper personal legal ramifications in this and anyone think he s going to treat those seriously. i mean , i think he s going to trivialize the jean carroll issue. i think he s going to trivialize every single possible indictment in charge that comes up because he doesn t take this seriously. these are all just proof of the deep state going after him. he s going to use them to gin up his base. i don t think he s going to, like, have this donald trump for this indictment and a totally new donald trump for the more serious ones? i agree, but i think it hits differently, depending on what the charges are. i mean, i just like it was it was a small sample, but i was co hosting on sirius xm the other day, and we were taking callers from real people around the country and we had three calls in about
. uh, i mean, i guess in the i mean in the grand pantheon, i mean, he s got to. he s got sex paperwork in one place, and he s got classified paperwork and the other so the classified paperwork sounds. more important to me, particularly since his lawyers now got to go in and talk about it, so i think that s probably you know you re an american person trying to figure out what s going on here strikes me that that case, ellie is the vital one here on that. okay donald trump is handling this with his usual air of wanting a reveal no, not not that word, bravado and love of a reveal and so he is. it is reported by haberman and michael bender in the new york times behind closed doors at mara lago, the former president has told friends and associates that he welcomes the idea of being paraded by the authorities before throng of report. there s a news cameras. he s even mused openly about whether he should smile for the assembled media. and he has pondered how the public would react and is said
to be to go down this way. this shouldn t be the sort of leading point and that was your point. original event. it s interesting because donald trump himself said that he was going to be arrested on tuesday and that didn t come to pass. and so do we think it. alvin bragg is having second thoughts. i mean, there s now a bit of pause today in the grand jury. do we sense that there s something happening ? i don t know. i m curious. you re thinking to me it seems like a guy standing at the at the edge of a swimming pool, like do i really want to jump because once he jumps, he s in the history books. he brings the whole country with them. so it does seem to me that that that you know, this is a district attorney. that might be a little bit cautious. no album brag. well i he was a couple years ahead of me in law school. he we were at the southern district of new york daily. he s a friend. i should say that. i love that analogy van because it s also like the phenomenon which i can empathize w
you here. okay ellie, tell us the significance of the development today of donald trump s attorney, um and then corcoran, who now is being ordered by an appeals court to testify. this is a pretty big deal because the bottom line is even corcoran has to testify about every everything that donald trump told him that relates to an ongoing crime. so what happened was doj wanted to talk to evan corcoran because he was part of the chain of communication that led to this false certification that trump s team gave to doj saying we ve given you all the classified records all the government records when of course, that was false. so doj questions corcoran he invokes attorney client privilege. doj goes to the judge and says crime fraud exception, meaning we believe these conversations between corcoran and trump were part of an ongoing crime, and the judge agrees. and today, a court of appeals panel. all three judges agreed. so now corcoran has to go in and doj gets to say, tell us about those cri
this is resourceful. i feel john garza and arlie nemo were turned in by other patrons at the harp and taken back into custody by police. charges are pending for both on their escape, and the sheriff s are conducting an internal investigation did determine how the inmates were able to break out so easily. mhm. alright back to serious news, the trump legal drama reaching fever pitch this week. in just hours, the manhattan grand jury will meet again. we re told this is the investigation into the hush money payments to adult film star stormy daniels. and on friday of this week, one of donald trump s own lawyers will have to testify to another grand jury that s looking into the handling of those classified documents start at mar a lago. so how is donald trump preparing for the possibility of these indictments here with me? we have cnn, political commentators s e. cupp and van jones. we have cnn legal analyst elie honig and cnn political commentator scott jennings. guys. great to have