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Right in the middle of the 2022 midterm elections. >> bret: shannon, we have been through these big cases before. we have talked about it. it is interesting to listen to the questions. you cant really get to what moo means just by the questions. >> yeah. because a lot of times, you know, expbluives are arguments may be playing devils advocate and may press both sides. you cant read too much into it you can get some hints and clues but nothing really matters until votes are cast and on paper. >> ...

Jury that his client was acting in self-defense. >> yeah, so what are you going to be looking for because clearly the prosecutor laid out what i think is going to be the heart of her closing argument, which is this point by point recitation of what happened and the fact that in his own words, the defendant, at least one of the three defendants says didnt get threatened, no knife, no gun, nothing. the guy was running away from him many times. never said anything let alone anything threatening. so...

Devils advocate were like okay, lets actually discuss this, though. we may all feel this way but why do we feel this way. >> devils advocate you again wanted to be sure. >> i wanted to make sure that everyone understood and we dissected each others little paragraphs, and we just took our time with it. we were patient with it. which was a little frustrating. youre locked up in a room, you cant go anywhere, but it had to be done, and we did it. we looked at each of those paragraphs. we dissected e...

Functions, thats a real statement about how our actual elections impact the ability to have the checks and balances we need in our democracy. they are not apparent there. >> look in, his defense, not my job, but let me give you the devils advocate here, hes a republican not welcome by his own leadership and would have an incredibly tough path to re-election. lets assume he got there, the republicans think they will take power next year, not welcome in their leadership, makes sense to say im goin...

Was kind of like, oh, my gosh, youre totally right. there is intent where to not provide lifesaving measures. when he knew three times there was no pulse. >> so then you take a vote and everybodys okay with that, so you have the first two, right, then you have to go to murder in the second degree. unintentional murder in the second degree, and what was that one like? >> we started with the third charge which was manslaughter, and then we did the charge 2 which is where we decided he was guilty b...

White board and she started writing up the defense arguments on the white board and we discussed every one of those. >> why was it important for you as devils advocate because you wanted to make sure -- >> i absolutely wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page. i wanted to make sure everyone was comfortable. i wanted to make sure we were doing due diligence and we actually understood what our task was. there was no room for error at all. >> no room for error. all of you knew the manslaug...

We just filled out a piece of paper. >> you had no idea. so you had no idea. so what was that first vote? >> then i kept track. so then when we voted i wasnt t the foreperson, but i kept track. and the first one we agreed to discuss was the manslaughter charge. >> that was the first vote you took. you didnt take an overall on everything. you did the manslaughter first. >> we did the manslaughter first. that was 100% guilty. >> the first one. >> but then and it was kind of like oh, wow, how did t...

>> that was the first vote you took. you didnt take an overall on everything. you did the manslaughter first. >> we did the manslaughter first. that was 100% guilty. >> the first one. >> but then and it was kind of like oh, wow, how did that happen? okay, lets go to the next one. but there were a couple of us who played devils advocate. i know sherri was one of them with me. and we said no, no, lets talk about what the defense is saying, though, as the opposite argument. lets make sure we can ru...

Can tell also, but the people who go out and threaten school board members, theyre the ones who will probably end up running for the school board and that should worry all of us. >> we had school board members on who have said i had to resign, i was worried about the safety of my children, people -- someone came into my garage, you know. theyre very concerned. theyre concerned for their personal safety. i do wonder, you know, if merrick garland had been -- just to play devils advocate here, if h...

Their ranks. back with us tonight author-activist median former producer for the daily show, host of the podcast how to citizen, hell also be hosting the pbs series america outdoors. even though to be honest we have only seen the guy inside. and susan, msnbc political analyst and a veteran political strategist. welcome, gang. happy to have you. its been too long since weve spoken with you. i would like to start with this. did president biden stack his priorities wrong? devils advocate here. it w...