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breakthrough in tunis the road to democracy the resignation of islam as prime minister than larry eileen laurie yet it's part of what we agreed to buy those voting on a new constitution. tall no show in knots for a controversial sadr is to and an appeals court backing of government backed down on tonight's one man show. critics call it blatantly anti semitic jew is a nice show which had been played to packed houses in paris was to kick off on national tour and its bitter controversy of let's go to the western city of moments where standing outside the auditorium where that show was to take place. his loss of rank as the irvine what's the reaction where you are. i have gotten to the embankment was met with the outgoing one hundred times and the people that god is here to read it here and on the beak and feet and i was pretty much a live show you can prevent odd thing about me and the french knots on the weekend at the top for bed time that you donate your old with a french manicure each carrier. i hated the two hundred and eight. as a friend helped me in the beach and taking the third time. i'm not breaking and entering the meantime thinking in front of the kind you can take the hint of money here and already is the controversial issue in the house has a kind show the warren of dried it not been paying impact the unit had to repeat them here with no or to duplicate them up on your point that the company had completed the opera would have been shown below. and happy and content the world click on the part of going to take an error of their top leader of the road against the room and then the market idea that anything that you reach the peak that the rule could well have i ever went again for your life i'm not the kind of extended an icky cold and the gravity and that has been accused of tea by the french interior minister rehman ruling just something i will be checking in with you shortly use again during the false and get today the prime minister already we need healing that decision to ban of that to show by controversial satirist in meanwhile a court in southern france ruling in favor of extra died in a kazakh tycoon and dissidents of russia. he's wanted on fraud charges. supporters call milk dark ugly eyes off the cossacks equivalents of me kyle calder asked eat this in reference to the recently freed russian dissidents. i was often accused of embezzling up to six billion dollars from his former bank b t a. from that and business tycoon to want to not look at the us all visit east of stealing up to six in the income is from this format bt ended by kazakhstan wants to try. so does russia and ukraine where the bond also operates on thursday a french court ruled that he could soon be extradited meaning i believe the french prime minister will sign extradition papers on sunday to wash away all gone to trial it cultivated in committees clothes which is the truth it would make him the second biggest pollster in history was on the vine laid off and on and off. add the s off to deny the accusations saying his case is a good team and to take it. the fifty year old was a form at an agm trade in the next hour. he was considered the micro to the kazakh president. he said his head in two thousand and nine and was trying to decide and the uk. he is going to a t disappeared after being condemned to the contempt of court. authorities arrested him na sana and the french riviera. he's been held in custody ever since. can somebody says he'll appeal the court's reasoning saying that if extradited he wanted to get a fair trial. my father is in a fetal position though both candidates down she'd been fighting for democracy and freedom of speech. and that by sending him to russia the ukraine. a sad basically sending him to death. france has no extradition treaty with kazakhstan. but the country has closed its coleman a tree and economic ties with russia human rights grapes he got more state aid and how good the hobby as of two at sinai the run for president be a bridge too far for new jersey's charismatic governor republican chris christie now firing a top eight after reports that staff had ordered lanes blocked on the george washington bridge and sydney york alleged retribution against the mayor of fort lee on the new jersey side who'd chosen not to back out christy's recent reelection as governor federal prosecutors of open inquiry into the traffic nightmare that ensued that governor speaking to reporters for the first time around i am in paris. a humiliated. by the conduct of some of the people. on my team. no doubt my mind the conduct of the exhibit it's completely unacceptable in short a lack of respect the appropriate role of government. and for the people that were trusted to serve. well cost a democracy can seem increasingly uncertain in places like egypt and libya prospects looking up in tunisia where islam is prime minister. i leave the area has resigned. part of a plan to end months of political deadlock. it follows the formation of an independent authority to oversee fresh elections and also comes as the national assembly votes article by article on a new constitution let he who the man who looked most honest of. cough alright so technical difficulties there apologies for that cause again today coming up but very shortly the tunisian the prime minister making that announcement short while ago the pressure is mounting on the rebel backed interim president of the central african republican says michelle jones and john takes part in a hastily organized regional summit in neighboring chad where states have up and summons the parliaments which is according to the french news agency. come over to injure me in a biplane. adjusted as spokesperson flatly denying any plans to resign pressure is mounting on sentences and the next president. i think we need is a disgusting the teacher at the end of the country. they say the scene changes not go to the meeting. schools in the show to retain his departure of branding. if you are incapable. if you are powerless in the face of the situation make way for others he can do that to joe the president is putting on a brave face and maintains that he will not step down like is to lead the nation on a puddle of drool too the issue of resignation is not on the agenda today the answer in the summit's was convened on the show to tear his initiative to share with his peers who have supported him until now this summit is to discuss the continued political transition. one option could see the prime minister taken to the country and connections at the end of the air. from as late as sixteen hundred chips in central african republic will be watching plays the year did she jump on the decisions have to be made to cross remains and is of an ounce on it. it's not our role to dictate choices africans make decisions regarding the political transition in the paralysis of the state this as many choices to be mates at that mogadishu. more than one thousand people per night and many more are displaced by fighting the president to take yet unable to stem the finance some four thousand african union peacekeepers at the detroit and european union officials have been sending additional forces to post and i'm so into it ninety one on any given me and i think the elliptical and then make the situation will be needed to be ten countries to stability. it sits in the news stay with us it's time for the post and get them the eye. off. for many this country is no laughing matter. an appeals court backing government backed down on french center is due to me is one man show biz stone what was to be opening night of the national war battle the rules of lower court ruling earlier in the day in the western city of knots. critics called sudanese show blatantly anti semitic. the controversy when to global went to denny's french footballer nicholas an oprah recently celebrated in english premiership goal with two city's trademark canal which is described as a salute. up yours gesture and okra apologetic saying he thought the gesture was merely anti establishment user name several times over has been convicted of hate speech and faces new charges after expressing his seeming regret that the gas chambers no longer existed. when asked about the anchor. a full cent of state radio's breakfast show who happens to be jewish so when the country's ambitious interior minister swung into action minute bouts publishing guidelines that allow local manners to ban its use and is sold out shows respect for freedom of expression does not prevent it in exceptional circumstances the banning of inactivity. if the measure is aimed only at preventing a breach of order. where there is disruption of order where is the display of disruption of order argued in these lawyers have been a judge decide what's funny and what isn't. as for the far right leader poll numbers are soaring. my peanut vendor denounces the act is against banning the show. two questions what are the limits of free speech. our politicians were awarding the attention seeking behavior. with the french might call a look of terror by weighing in on the matter to the falls and gets a big free speech or hate speech and that is to talk about it he's a french socialist member of pompeii quarter a welcome back commencement of today. i welcome it as well to keep motion limited columnist to decrease the answer to that side of the new group cell photo weekly magazine. also this cd received has professor justin smith. welcome to the show animal control to diana johnstone computer to fifteen years magazine counterpunch thank you for being with us most think it's a new week and join the show on facebook and twitter contact and two for debate before we go to our panel let's go to an aunt's that appeals court reversing of lower court ruling banning the show just before he was supposed to kick off standing by outside the auditorium falls and gets the irvine evil it's the reaction where you are. a great deal of shock and side is anything on fire. and i almost six thousand years on a front images that show tagged as it did for this issue in muar the wall and when the announcement is in and overturning the carrier decision on tentative go ahead. it was festive and that's including than france and in the side and i'll say is that french nice mountain twice before calling an ace and going on for the right to freedom of speech and that's what they see hear me as a lot has been put into question and friends tonight he also calls for the french interior minister menu of us to resign and that pretty much at least remained very calm. there isn't quite as strong but very discreet police presence on both sides of the vanity of it demanded that a few signs of going home either cafeteria of behinds in the sides and is then add to the stadium and waiting for his username to make an appearance say they believe he is inside so he will come out and i'm not gonna show ideas to address these times removed to monitor that we view his irvine many thanks lots of political reactions coming in the interior minister or mentioning saying the republicans bomb the prime minister is also hailed the decision member appeals court reversing the opinion of the judge would rule. he essentially matured in exact quote cannot be considered. and to being an attempt to violate human dignity. more from home to pee. find several times for defamation. he speaks on racial discrimination against gays. yet different comedians are doing he has never paid any of the signs and despite society's new horse attempt to bomb his size he's always one his appeals and the name of freedom of speech said but they will do is not any in our freedom of speech it's also about protecting the public's freedom to la french people should be able to love the projects they lie like that it's not up to the interior minister tennis courts on eight thousand on the night in order to get the tip of my meals on sand to suntec and they as across from us and finding that the council did in his upcoming performance is seen as a potential threats to order. the scandal even for french president hostile or not to step a myriad of new priests. nobody should use the show. as a way to provo if you're a ten speed coupled with anti semitic is that the mall looking for one difference and six he decided to pull the plug. but the comedian remains defiant and has bounced to ignore the rules. he insists he's many anti establishment and anti zionist. he slammed critics saying that his trademark canal gesture was not an infected knots he said but did during any of the french mother and thy coming and father does have controversial friends including fall right political figures and hug of course deny as some have appeared on stage with teetering on several occasions. this is to review for a quarter are your reactions to the verdict quite satisfied and tights and a packet of the government has been extremely tough. with this issue because you cannot. it just to minimize reach them and antisemitism. get deployed to save the famous french. comedian was unreal to me in the swamp to get enough of anything but milk with everyone and i think which is in a new kennel cough is molding just a comedian he's a political actor. today and that we cannot just let him have it we know what teacher was like to know what's inside the show because he's had several encounters of the time when the shoe was talking in different cities and towns in the government was trying to say no we cannot let that happen. his limits to what you can see his limits to freedom of speech when it becomes races and senate. the issue to the net for rights to order that the show's been running for months and months that we do need to think that that legal basis of sound is because i mean anti semitic since that speech is a threat to order. and i'm the type of movement is getting extremely political and getting out to the pit itself. i was in here. and an additional reason to go to beach to meet up to the mortuary. i think is full of duration is the purest and fall of the minister of the interior dominion post it so waited for him to promote his image. just before the next coming elections and to rein in its meeting on a rainy night the streets via the left of it would be left to them. the elites right tom waits that if the voters and i've come to convince them to go boating. the one thing to know is that school the next elections to provisions are that's the book is on the left will go boating so we've added a duckling to unite this the voters to tell them business sense to no commitment to hold the senses we are fighting over the bleak for coming to them this coming june is against this evil that's it didn't they. he is standing for and that students do the nineties revealed. and nobody adults that's what it does is unspeakable and there is no debate about its that the way we did do with the government chose to to do it is really really not as possible and told him and this is disastrous. we are making off to donate the nation all. i come. we are putting him on the map national map. nobody even knew about him before that's not very much. the bid is guns kill people real monks ninety people knew him but he was not in a small icon know. now in france everybody knows to them it's like is against the system is standing against the establishment by himself and he's suggesting that he's a monster created by the currie cup to the most because we needed one. and today the consequences are the sponsor is actually out in the field. this fits her that's not say none of this nicole and buses cynical justin spent and said none of us strikes me as a sort of law and order sheriff who's kicking up dust storm because i don't exactly exactly and this isn't only in the job in a case of two other cases it's the part of it in this case is to close enough to loan the company has taken here and there is a cultural trip quid pro quo here. and if you're good you're coming from the united states where there's been the first amendment. here in france. there is this that the notion and everyone except sit dead heat speech is punishable by law. sure and i'd do try to put my my commitment to the first amendment on hold and look at this and the differences in a different cultural and legal context but at the same time one house to ask even in this context what is the utility of creating such a spectacle and how exactly can we the new york and new the french turned over to the states to determine when speech is in breach of order and in my opinion getting the job in his speech alone falls well below the thresholds of the violation of order. dan johnson. mount st encouraging few things to say that because their land. i would see it very clear when the sensation beam the band were arrested. not that it sustains new name. we're going to mt to stand out and say to his . tasting big skes inotten to match this shop windows and do a shot. it would be violating the law that would be a clear violation. but if he makes jokes it's bearable if a tip from an expansion and the second some people are offended by that. people are offended by all sorts of things especially stand up comedians who specialize in in an offending people and i see absolutely no reason whatsoever so long as you i'm not calling for acts against people tuned in to comb it to state the law a crey taste i what'creang heat coo maybe i can say oh i just love that chris and i would make people hate him you just don't know what the tape this is a subjective judgment when the bakery and if you say. we were going to go and have begun to list. well that we may call for violence that would be a violation but still need to make jokes about things that happen in the past. it may be offensive but it should come under freedom of speech. he pointed to the success of jokes and humor. about three students semitism is in a way accepting re cement semitism and its this and it says hoodies nation of gray cement and sins and that creates violence. did i know i am happy to be this there is in the aisles and on the facade of the in thing created is being created. we know now we cannot accept ctain things in our society. republic is based on values loves life yet go on more and more rules says that you cannot add that you cannot do hate speech and when i'm done with and these people who create the funds behind and to the anti smoking areas included the student union has been seen on the moon hits your desk. when coming to this shows people and people are being trapped. i was so ofthe to test and that seemed possible that the rpf had to do nothing to do with it didn't do other two i have to do this that we did this as it can narrow the sandwich his head like to set any reason the activity was and he thought it was an anti u s thousand and two has no intention is to question not cease in two weeks. yes but no it's not the case targets companies into high society i'm not saying it's a good thing to know who he is an anti snow people. we cannot say to me. we all agree that it's not a great thing but i suppose the question is where do you think these hateful sentiments are going to go if the state succeeds in an inn in banning all expression of them do you think they're going to disappear and you think everyone's going to have love in their hearts. or do you think perhaps there is more effective way of of of of marginalizing this sort of hateful sentiments which would be by addressing. i hink the disaffection of which would you then we'll sing it in between it's and adults of the ingredients needed to build fifty reasons to do its bit it's not that good strategy. it's not the best strategy that's obviously a strategy that is the delta because there isn't and the timing m video vixens are coming. many of us is in need of for me. yes i don't know whether the union of two dollars and is administered only reason it's name is also the fact that dude in the store stocks now and if we don't live there is no good and they accept it said one of us will care that you don't need to focus on story broke. medicine that centipede is not nice as in behind to the railway the immense economic crises these are real subjects on the people want to learn about them. didn't even seem so much and i am totally agree it's lik fighting the disease by it thatay. i did trying to suppress the cia does it get t fight againsthe causes and yet he spirit of t behind he wkend. we did it sin diana johnson getting away with it stop when it's gone are the adults. well everybody is saying that this is. this is just a week i found in the eye and impolite out and win the contest to myself but anybody is saying is this just did some people say it's an empty suit the question and i that people who are making at st in antisemitic dc isn't. i mean it's a totally corrupt and other organizations that and i this is theasty saluting me there is something like that but the people who are making it sing it and now you are destined to the people are making to know what it means and what are the things that i think is extremely humid some people are dead and that helps you as i know so so excited for the united synagogue. would it. i'm saying i'm saying that this this is a symptom of a generation which is totally dependant on the whole problem is that since the referendum of two thousand and five when the french people voted against the constitution of europe and the comments politicians to run around and noted that seems to think there is a disillusioned with politics and has and it will in this adaptation and selected people time and ambiguous symbol this to mean anything it's getting absolutely anything but it does open and you should listen to the people are making what may. now let me ask justin smith will miss you and your students to politicize this diana johnstone was dismissed there is a certain sense of historical continuity i think and there's there's very little memory of i think the long post war period in which the holocaust was something of wheat which we had a lead in continuity on and also there's no memory among the youth of nineteen twenty years all of a period in which israel was not serious. the issue for our international relations and i think these two together these these two changes since a nineteen eighties nineteen nineties have profoundly affected on young people's perception of some of the sort of issues that uganda is exploiting but i just wanna get back to mom to two to your point. i think this is not why i would be quite so so generous in my interpretation of the gestures such as the can down with quite a bit of experience in germany where people where the far right has become very expert in you whom eyes and expression of far right sentiments on them when something looks like a reference to hitler for example. it probably is no matter how much that the person making the gestures denying well i do need it to mean a lot of young people in the politicized. but due to me is being politicized. and for people to deepen its highest coming to the show getting a political message this is important for those who are against it to the nuisance is also to teach him what he is which is a political act today and then put on some politically. nope just don't know the extent of the evening i am single politically out of me. i think it makes the rounds in monday's debate. if you disagree with him. i am only come back we'll hear what the interior minister said specifically on this stay with us you're watching the polls and get today. i got some grievances. dawson one of the most densely populated regions in the world. since the last war with israel the palestinian enclave continues to rebuild against the backdrop of the precariously spot the effect that the use of the blockade and the implicit circuit by hamas is control of his heart. should students restaurant owners all if you're in for more free. they share with us their frustration. here is simple the subgroup is that it once was and kept in force but kept on top i recall sunday night to just treat it was an everyday. because breaking new skill points. so much. in all situations. so too. just that. use. that report. in may nineteen forty four the tiny and topped it with deported to central asia by stopping in. they were accused of cooperating with the occupying nazis the start of the for the tacky speaking muslims to fully re did the ukrainian friend tina. the four of the ussr. welcome to attend to detonate it. this topic to find that takes you to change and predominately suffolk uk i read for years and four strikeouts and enforcement dot dot com. our eye. it was too close to him dead before resume the false to get to be assembled the stories we are following including one that is squarely that happened tonight. republicans want says that the interior minister after the show one man show of the comedian to denise is to spend on opening nights and still scored her first report. french port city in southern france agrees to extradite to russia has acted in their decisions was on fraud charges. he's quite pleased doing is tantamount to a death sentence. the central african republic's rebel backed interim president under pressure regional heads of state meeting in the ring shot at the summit. summoned to parliament to attend. that to me today. a major break into pieces brought democracy to the resignation of islamist prime minister tony blair yet part of a roadmap for free too. those voting on a new constitution. we're grateful that those stories are more for you to be our eighth year on false and catch. welcome back are welcome if you're just joining us this is the false haven't yet debate were speaking in the wake of the french appeals court upholding the government backed ban on the one man show of controversial comic and eight. she's by detractors of being anti semitic. he's been fined in the past both for anti semitic remarks with us to talk about it for socialist member opponents of the quarterly also with us the motion when a columnist for the priesthood and the summit of interactive website. he teaches philosophy at the university of paris. as for justin smith is with us and diana johnstone contributor to the us monthly magazine counterpunch welcome back that all of you. the french by the way split open the two kids in a fifty two percent in favor of the bat according to one survey movements within the margin of error of band that defended by the interior minister. i was little is a likeable everyone to know how to make sense messages of paintings friend in entertainment schools in our country. it's unacceptable to have to find judicial means what it is not simple. it will be completed on complex but you must find judicial means but by the community from the shy to speak the motion way to understand how people watching in certain parts of the world meals surprised to hear an interior minister said these constants. yes because it seems that india ministers decided to to be around to deduce that the staff of the judicial system by holding cell for many months to make the decisions make the worlds. and nobody's saying it as cooking against it in his own government and in all the ministers are going to be i didn't even the president's every squeeze in. i mean it's like to many of us sticking in his hands the department the government says it all to the heart of the last word on it later. oh also the fact that the defendant again legislating on hate speech just when i'm asked. its participants addition to an illustration on the hate speech main meal was at the system is very different from the us. because the floor as a verb it is as real meaning it's a proponent of things we think that the verb in politics is the action itself we are deeply committed to that belief. it's been a friend read it so well religious tradition including the tender ages states and the knowledge estate is that it has been broken on the very recently the beginning of the trenches centric sits in that we we believe that the thermostat to his cell so that's why we are putting so much pressure on the bumps on them on the good moments this is a core feature of many traditions of french philosophy as well of course that language itself can be a sort of violence were domination. the thing the route is the year students that surprising from the outside but far from the french point of view. ed what's surprising is that it would be many of us to get some of what's going on for instance the acceptance of the words of the verb the means or so to the causation of the issue and of the reasons why it's so important. you see in the us has given him into walking the streets discuss the rights of students minutes. the talks no one because it's only two crazy guys on the street and it is crazy this would be a missional to deal with the minister of interior against him. that's the difference. i think part of the that reflection on the first amendment in the united states estates of barry very tricky paying for legal system to make judgments about something as complicated as humor or as known as as pragmatic set up a conversation you mentioned in the beginning. she had to call it i can think of a famous get bike yet of course where he has friends can you guess where he and joe mclean intended as a guest and indeed they are laughing together. from now on its men's alternately to skewer or lampoon the pan but if you wanted to hop in excessively of overreaching interpretation of. of the promotion of hatred and one that skit with wood wood wood would probably find him and will fuss bout her view is well a lot of reactions on twitter. lounge around saying people seem to promise of freedom of speech they want to spread it. and then complain when someone gets their due in court. netizens that i mean hate speech is not. normal speech. i mean and rude to the knee is not a comedian he is today a political actor. and sightseeing trips. and be donning the inside and defeat that there is a risk of violence. i know this is pleased with his visits to a few wasn't really a political act to you but debate is when you are not debating with nobody's debate interested in it because it's not the means with the help that because he eats. trying to get people's eyes as a comedian as a showman. and the trying to make people believe that his shoe is humorous. and this is what needs to be just my diet may get your reaction when another common knowledge of them just the reaction is common. drake is on saying that's not freedom of expression. the guy is insane the race. i mean that's the end and is now up on me and them and send it to a statement. but what i wanted to see tuesday instead. on the lappy lions team and he's fading paint. the studies i have seen flowing out of hatred against tyranny that is unlike anything i've ever seen in this country. there is hatred against us men and women to physical survival because it is like a company with leading sire in to him to get rid of him the minister of interior who stepped up to me when the silence him. and i'll look for illegally dealing on the eighth and he doesn't seem to have a lot being that i'm going to employers is to do things as intimate and then he looks when you do it any. he said of his immunity could be complicated and complex yet she didn't cry as if he's not starting with the law he started with the protest against the individual. this is not my idea of the republic of law. isn't he. that is the biggest excuse for violating every kind of on the stallion for the design isn't it. that is the use of anti racist and extremist round one on the top but do not think it would not be anti racist against all the people who are supporting didn't bring a treat us the nazis. freezing. would he think he is gone and the beast and internet seems to know that also sneering these people you don't care anything about their sensibilities it again the sentiment of a particular community. many ask you folks know about this people go to it shows mostly male mostly young people what that says young. well it's mostly disaffected youth and that's the real problem which i can sing to the bay is a symptom. on one thing that has been lost sign that here is that you donate is himself a member of the visible minority on. she has explicitly expressed frustration in saying when it's about blacks nobody listens. even though that the wounds are steve it's just it's just as painful now this is a sort of competition for who he is the most afflicted group that were very familiar with in the united states there's now an african american holocaust museum in um up up up up in our home in milwaukee milwaukee and in other cities as in if there is a sort of battle to show who is the most afflicted and this is not a not a rational again to get into but it's clearly due to an a's game and that makes him something very different from typical european neo leader on. what is very real by the way his key crops which have steadily risen in france over the past three decades so says a national commission which for two thousand twelve reported a twenty three percent year on the rise in racist anti islam and anti semitic acts of the most devoted the cover of your publication this week and then a summit of headlines and that and the heats. and annie. there was this other part of that context it is a nice. one man show which is. there seems to be rising in arts and crafts yes it's a scene from us is a member of the pope the voters are turning to the wheel of the terrace end of the feedings against the so called astonishment as the moment. and because they're the things done out there and it's indeed there is no connection between them and the government. and it's not there for the president is really troubled to express what these leaves and is really troubled to call mike is folders and we don't know how to address this fall to voters and attending to the far right because that's the only kind of for the fights the camden to consume them in to see on the can of expression to camp out. no that is not tainted raise suspicions on it from their point of view. i mean this is really a challenge from the government and folded them up at the closest way to trace the beach reads the beach by the twist is spoken of with this. and it's really called ticket to finance its not by denying with there are and what their situation really use that to succeed is done by telling them that they are and it made seats that we will achieve anything. we need to offer a broad attentions on to talk to them about their problems and the government is no good nothing that ten of us is the not the fact that the network in yemen of course when and where no sane and far from it that the only solution to world this is me still stopping the show from dundee and adding the government is also acting very much for me to auntie connie on the social issues and and and that's awesome ness of the debate today but i know when they don't want to put the oxygen was yesterday. that's precisely what's going on with us as the un. another problem is that in the pasta cases just in the news that is the rays of love. all fruits of racist acts. his goal to beat the race. arrays of a soup that acceptance of racism at people not in the streets and mementos. as his cake and the races which was not the case of twenty eight with ten of twenty years ago and its acceptance of racism is the real problem in office by the fact that getting fired and his gal by selling them until then went to switch the same to you from what they say we say this is what they're saying is is is is is that he is racist and said no words just cannot accept they know to whom we cannot just half hours of racism killing on the mainland is to change the solution. in between and staying in the last ten years. reason has been accepted. no nba team because of political strategy know it's only a strategy and it's not working i went to support the movement the weekend because in fact we've been hearing. racism in france close to him the more we hear anti racism the anti racist argued i'm using to say all the races is increasing so it's not working maybe talking on returning the mounties to denny's is creating monster in the mountains and caring. it is enthused by the raiders xenophobia. but also the sort of reaction we've witnessed in this is not on the extreme up against. what's becoming a multi culture for its external lot of controversy the new book by french philosopher and feed a crowd call me on fortune identity and the size of wheat for that to a backlash of those he calls the sedentary french when the cyber cafe is called blade dot com and the butcher and or fast food both will all be set in tears as he calls them go through the experience of they haven't moved that everything has changed around them. a justice that i see you shaking your head stalking the way he attempts to increase the eight himself with a with people that key un backed up. have a very different of political orientation and perspectives and he himself had as i know he's read serious political philosophy i know he thinks about these issues in a more profound way. and yet the only thing that he saying in this new book which i have read is that there is an authentic french culture that needs to be defended against the encroachment of invading immigrant is that racist that it's up. it depends on it depends how you define racism but i would certainly be happy to call it racist or seen in full detail of the future pope doesn't it stand up comedians. it's a good thing. yes it's that anybody can you with the cause of social movements the sydney institute thinks so. noting that he he he is he's attacking basically he's attacking the bees to win to stay but he's in critical and say no sarah whom were nesting groups which are not the most terrorists in the group infants. on the debate. everywhere there is free to the mothers can improve your answer is a missile using them. welcome to visit on the same level because. though the french constitution the declaration of human rights is based on this notion of universalism that everything that the republicans. makes all citizens. the scene of the road to the melting pot and he is saying that said that no longer works anymore we should go back to those not yet determined the throne from his head to a history of immigration. i mean today there is no such thing as a pillow french mean everyone is a mixture from region confined to get into the battle that could be wrong. and and and and that's mean this just the history of fronds. that said that he has no right. adding today. i mean we so should the french republic the more malta colt was with the french republic i think it's that time and this is not a contradiction between being multicultural and that having listened to the principal's office because now it's important to distinguish between these various pcs there is a difference between generalized racism and antisemitism get an a for example is not a general re sit and read the ability of him to pick up on anti semitism has a lot to do with changes in the far right over the past few years that is increasingly coming to terms with the existence of israel and even taking it as a model of national self to facts and this leaves people who would otherwise be on the left like you don't then you started out in anti racist politics started picking up the trash left behind by the far right so these are very important distinction is when you mention the far right words to the knee has openly flirted with the far right now past its primary president. on the peter pan is godfather to one of the comedians dollars. um depends daughter. the current leader of the national front man peter pan putting distance between herself and unity. i find myself shocked and that as do many of the french people. my ideas and opinions held like to donate. did it. did i do not want ms did you donate to the use of sixties. opening the floodgates to pray to censorship of free speech once you die. can you not the court agreed that can strike a chord with a lot of people who not only people who are on the far right this kind of pr to try and show that not to confront is not such an extremist party that was good as the math i'm handling this better than the socialists indicates not only is the view that the only solution on this cake was extremely tough and small government. johnson will be the ideal and that my impressed by all its opposition to the far right in france is ill or anything else. i mean we now have one party is elected. the ump it on the socialist they carry a concealed neoliberal policies of the day. france led the war against bolivia come to us. what caused it to say that the emitted into the rainy season. isn't that into him and thinking here but basically it's the same policies and why isn't the same county because of policies have made it by the european you're basically transcend human. it's its own sovereignty in economic matters. so it basically you can get packed up a little here and there but basically the same policies when it comes to peace. the new name for me and my night time when the main definitions of being on the left is to be against a wall. the french have led the war to destroy the government however that whatever you say and i did this time the government to having any of the country in chaos. they haven't been pushing for war and steering this is not the last anymore i don't see how the national front is much more on the right that is so tiny. i was too long the economic policies in the new rules changed so you know how to improve his back on the agenda. it is no wind and the austerity of policy from the house has been replaced by most of obama's policy between. this of course having accounts which are about instead of the same time. implementing the group's own. on on on on the wall really am sorry to see past the post office into his own hands. and until this day which included the difference between what happened in my hands. in a new view. i didn't see that the minute but monday was the war which was necessary to re create peace. all of my streamyx expect any different from. indeed be a bit of difference. point is that for a while for a lot of voters stairs the center right and center left and you get these european elections coming up and they feel as though there is nothing that so going to really shake their chic stadium. cheat the system pretty frequent the gym and we debated this year i predicted the european policy since most won't. this president has been a big change managers for you come and gone the main measures on youth employment we did not exist. why was it socceroos in medical. coming up with these two guys today was a shift in the european policy which is at the date i still think an advantage and innocence are an opportunity to happen if a majority in the european parliament and to get to cry. i know the colors of european going to change a comment here or you can agree on something that the budget itself is bolted every year and a ninety six ninety seven percent of it doesn't change so we don't if i think if it does this fit this medium but it's on the rights of its mate may need to but it remains the same so we are not men. your opponent minutes that ski trips. what then is the badge is a minister in station in the snow day today. getting back to topic is due to me and eat it again it's it's triggered such reactions. i'm back in the early eighties there was steve and french president calls from utah was accused of cynically over plain importance of the national front contributing to to the party's rise. when you see anybody. we had this decision for a while ago we've seen reaction from the prime minister we've seen reaction from the interior minister. yesterday the president himself weighed in on this discussion is it's a repeat of the early eighties when some people are saying that. the government created a storm in a teacup tuesday. and i've since beginning i think you can don't know be tough on such an issue. when someone is in sight and eight. and nothing the government was right has nothing to do with the rise of the national front. and if we don't. if the dukes at one stage. pre written mine was coral more open with a society then the match from the race. the fund has been raising in the posse is because racism has become so such sin which accept it and then pulled a speech is much more in line with what people can stay in the intimate and this is why we have to be and said the government is right in b c meet up onto the knee from people who insult the minister of justice to tend to get up and it's all the same thing week when the remains in the limited time while demand has said himself that he was disappointed not to get jail time because that was part of his promotional campaign that's pretty much a clear sign that he's using the government introduced to his own band to ch. it was here oninister likely said he's been speaking out in the past hour after that appeals court backed government and banks. his performance his one man show in the west of france the issue of the cost of this decision by france's highest court to support the government's position. in our society week on snakes and even slights complacency with regards to anti semitism. which goes against our bodies sound principles the government's wants to whites in such a way to break reflection. initiate debate on sports is so awesome is that the government will never compromise our bodies that others of the french republic. when you stood on it. and agreeing with him is as you on twitter. jayden is not a hero he isn't a victim you for that fact isn't dangerous guy who wants to tell dangerous stuff in funny way. then we give them a national a turbulent and it's the easiest way for him to propagate his ideas the it's a repeat of the atheists remake of the eighties it's like when you do it says shows no it's not as good as the first time. see they're trying to do it but it's not gonna work because the things that change now. what is with the remarkable with india strategy is that you don't see you on tape in peony more on the tv is going national coverage it's all about the government's against the extent and if our rights and so investors are going to serve the injustice the opposition conservatives it's good thing for the elections. maybe because the end they won't be able to attack so strongly is that the media before the and the christmas before the end of vacation so it is a smart strategy and so it could be disrupted the flow on that respect but i don't think and really i don't think that it often like to be a tease with a twenty ten said dribbling on the long term the weekend the rights and the i think it's just that could turn against if the socialists because the national fold now is able to go to the elections and to wean begins the socialists data able to be able to devote to this a gun that is a dumbass and a late second round said in a nest in the elections and able to defeat some of the socialist during the first fall of the election that's very new it's a change and it didn't take that into account the feminists it's true it could be very dangerous that's a strategy now it's not the same station as in the teens that other countries grappling is well with identity politics as the lead up to those european elections. yet i refused i think it's a strategy is not a strategy it's about preserving our and preserving our values and being tough on the extreme right extreme. my speech. and yet on time and racist acts and its beaches and thus i think you cannot say that it's a bad thing that the government is tough on extreme policies and that'll be the final word for this onto a quarter of one thing don't think justin smith diana johnstone think people should want to thank you for joining us here for the false and can't agree on. yes it's hot. reporters. in may nineteen forty four. the tiny and touches with deported to central asia placed on him they were accused of cooperating with the occupying nazis the start of the for the tacky speaking muslims to fully re did the ukrainian friend tina. the four of the ussr. welcome to attend to the naked eye. this topic to find that takes in the challenge and predominately suffolk uk. i read for years and four strikeouts and enforcement dot dot com. and i'm glad. it is. it is. these. it is. for all. the stakes are and what it is. mentoring us. that time. afterward he said it received. new new new wong will will will will eye. i am. the rt chris is the crosshairs a new report shows that the non christians killed for their fate has doubled in twenty thirteen 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