with this reporting, quote, the former president has called witnesses throughout the investigation according to those who spoke anonymously to reveal conversations. they ruled out a number of former officials as the recipient of this latest call highlighted by cheney saying it was not former white house counsel pat cipollone whose deputy patrick philbin, former media officials, matthews or former pascale. the allegations of witness tampering by trump and his associates, though, do add new dimension to the wider scandal that is to overturn the 2020 election results which, as vice chair liz cheney added, trump was, quote, substantially and personally involved in. politico reports on the dual track of the committee s public hearings with this analysis. on the one hand, the committee is focused on filling out the historical record of the attempt to overturn the election and its violent conclusion. on the other, its members are laying out an unmistakable map to a potential crimina
hearing on tuesday. as trump s former white house counsel, cipollone was in the room for many of the key events during trump s attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. cipollone s name has come up extensively throughout the six hearings the committee has already held. but it was after we heard from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson late last month that the pressure really ramped up on cipollone to testify, under oath, before the committee. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec saturday morning and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, calf city. keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. there are developments today of potential new testimony the committee may hear from two other individuals who were closely aligned with trump. here s the headline for my paper, the washington post. trump considers wavin
extensively throughout the six hearings the committee has already held. but it was after we heard from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson late last month that the pressure really ramped up on cipollone to testify, under oath, before the committee. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec saturday morning and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. there are developments today of potential new testimony the committee may hear from two other individuals who were closely aligned with trump. here s the headline for my paper, the washington post. trump considers waving claim to executive privilege for steve bannon. my colleagues isaac stanley-becker, josh joce and jacqueline alameda report, quote, former president donald trump is considering sending a letter to stephen k. bann
so, rick, that was the first time we heard about the first time the committee publicly sent this sort of warning that, you know, we see you and then obviously this week they invoked the actions of the call made by donald trump himself to one of their witnesses. what do you make of the assessment from carol and katie and barb that this is very much working in a direction that it normally doesn t. it s not doj usually doesn t like to follow congress in any investigation, but in this instance there s no evidence that that s not what s happening. . yes. it s complicated and to talk about the witness tampering that you just alluded to and the dialogue there, i mean it goes back to what we ve been saying for years that mob boss is the template and the way to understand donald trump. that dialogue there could have been from the godfather. the godfather knows you ll do the right thing. he s watching you.
testimony of people like steven ayers who came forward and said, yeah, i was tricked. i thought that this was something real because i was believing what the president was saying, and i think that that is the measure that we should use in evaluating this. yeah, i mean, and i m grateful for the testimony of the trump campaign folks who are now sharing how alarmed they were by the nexus between trump and his campaign and violence. let me show you some of congresswoman stephanie murphy s testimony about brad parscale s tweets, ashley. president trump s former campaign manager brad parscale recognized the impact of the speech immediately, and this is what he said on january 6th, an excerpt of text messages from katrina pierson. mr. parscale said, quote, this is about trump pushing for uncertainty in our country. a sitting president asking for civil war, and then when he said this week i feel guilty for