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>> and the author drives the point home in a lurid dream sequence. >> the disciples nightmare is absolutely horrific. its just a terrifying scene. >> they are sacrificing their wives and children. there are sexual relations with men. >> great house with a great altar in it! >> its sort of a panoply of sin and theyre very frightened by this vision that they have. theyre not really sure what it means. >> 12 people whom you say are priests. >> jesus responds by saying terrible things are going to b...

>> the message of the gospel of judas is not simply that jesus is betrayed by judas in his lifetime but that his teachings are being betrayed after his death. >> the author of the gospel of judas is angry, but hes not angry at the events that transpired in the first century between jesus and judas. hes angry at church leaders in the second century. >> possibly judas is critical of all the disciples of jesus, frankly. and these disciples are standing as kind of ciphers. theyre symbols of the orth...

Jesus and ask an urgent question. >> forgive us our sins for we also forgive those who sin against us. >> the answer that comes back from jesus will prove one of the most famous moments in the new testament. >> jesus asks these disciples to tell john that hes doing all these things. its all about action. >> you met with him. >> yeah. >> what did he say? >> the good news is preached to the poor. the lame walk. the blind see. im doing all of this stuff, john. so i am what you expected to happen. >...

>> in the new testament gospels, jesus starts his mission traveling through galilee and judea, gathering followers. from them, he chooses 12 to be his closest disciples. >> the term "disciple" simply means learner or student. so when jesus is calling disciples, hes simply gathering a group of students around to learn from him. >> the disciples come from a wide range of backgrounds. from fishermen to tax collectors. >> there was recruitment by jesus, deliberate recruitment. and he wanted a divers...

Subordinate to jesus, and yet hes the one thats doing the baptizing. >> in the gospels, you see this trying to tackle this problem of jesus being baptized by john, indicating jesus was in a subordinate position which was a problem for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile johns status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure to jesus. after all...

Are really strongly opposed to roman occupation. if judas was one of these revolutionaries, maybe he got frustrated jesus wasnt taking enough action, in public enough, pressing the matter hard enough. >> maybe he handed over jesus in the hopes that creating a confrontation between jesus and the romans would be the spark that would cause jesus to begin the events that would topple the roman empire. >> these political intrigues form the backdrop to one of the most celebrated scenes of jesus life, ...

>> regardless of whether judas was a good or bad character in this text, what most scholars would agree is that the gospel of judas is not really about the figure of judas. the disciples are the ones being criticized by the author. >> the real shock reveal of the gospel of judas is that none of the disciples are good. that probably should have been the headline. none of the disciples are that great. >> the gospel of judas is a damning portrayal not just of judas but of all the disciples at the l...

In this way? >> leave her alone! >> jesus has been preaching this message about the poor and ministering to them and giving away your coat. and now all of a sudden hes going to let this woman pour a huge amount of moneys worth of perfume on him. >> this ointment could have been more than 300 and given to the poor. >> sort of one set of rules for the disciples and a different set of rules for jesus. we can see why this event would upset judas. >> this was a big turning point for judas because imm...

>> in the new testament gospels, jesus starts his mission traveling through galilee and ju dhia, gathering followers. from them, he chooses 12 to be his closest disciples. >> the term "disciple" simply means learner or student. so when jesus is calling disciples, hes simply gathering a group of students around to learn from him. >> the disciples come from a wide range of backgrounds. from fishermen to tax collectors. >> there was recruitment by jesus, deliberate recruitment. and he wanted a dive...

John the baptist had dared to speak truth unto power. and for this, he pays the ultimate price. >> i think he understood that he was a martyr. he was a martyr in the cause of something greater. he was the martyr in the cause of a beautiful kingdom of god on earth, which is what he had preached all his life. >> i see jesus and john as being very similar in terms of their conception of god, in terms of what they wanted people to do, in terms of their call for repentance, in this idea that the worl...