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Possible for the shroud that wrapped jesus to survive until now. clearly it would have been an important artifact for the disciples and then the early christians, so the notion that it would have been preserved makes total sense to me. >> my gut tells me that its real. >> it doesnt seem likely to me that its real, but it focuses our attention on something unavoidable about the jesus story, just how much he suffers. jesus may be glorious, enthroned in heaven, lord of lord, king of kings, but this...

But not his wife. >> what the gospel of phillip clearly says is that there is some kind of a favored relationship between mary magdalene and jesus. that jesus does care for her more than the other disciples. and thats all it really tells us. >> but some scholars believe the nag hammadi texts do reflect a genuine tension between mary and peter. >> i think the tension thats reflected in some of the texts outside of the bible, i think they do really reflect a tension between peter and mary. >> the ...

That marys relationship with jesus is resented by peter. >> once marys finished instructing, a full-scale argument breaks out between mary and peter. >> did he prefer her to us? >> what do you think? that i made this up in my heart, or that i am lying about the savior? >> this is clearly a fight between the disciples for supremacy, for who is going to be the chief disciple and who properly carries on jesuss teachings and missions. >> peter might have felt that it was his rightful role to be the ...

Yeah. there are two moments in the gospel of phillip that really say something interesting about the relationship between jesus and mary magdalene. one is that he, jesus, refers to mary magdalene as his companion or consort. it says explicitly that jesus loved mary magdalene more than the other disciples. >> why do you love her more than all of us? >> why do i not love you as i do her? >> and theres another moment where he kisses her. he used to kiss her -- and then theres this hole. and so weve...

Mystery of marys disappearance after the resurrection? >> having a brand new text to tell us about mary magdalene and the relationship between mary and jesus is really, really, exciting for us. >> the gospel picks up her story after jesus has risen from the dead. >> peter, i have seen the lord. >> tell us the words of the savior, what you remember. what you know but we do not. nor have we heard them. >> what is hidden from you, i will proclaim to you. >> the key point is that mary is the instruc...

Jesuss other followers. >> the gospel of thomas, like other sources, suggests that marys role among the disciples was deeply resented by some of them, particularly peter. the way peter is described is irate and hot headed and bad tempered, somebody thats a difficult person. >> the lost gospel of thomas points to a surprising explanation for this tension between peter and mary. dr. nicola denzey lewis has come to the coptic museum in cairo to see these nonbiblical gospels. >> so theres this one p...

Other disciples and thats the last folio which is in folio 51. so can we see that? there it is. beautiful. so when saying 114, we see a little argument, a little dispute, a little scene unfolding. >> the gospel of thomas tells of an angry episode when peter vents his resentment against mary. >> tell mary to leave us because shes a woman and not worthy of life, spiritual life. similar to the jewish tradition that women arent supposed to be taught torah. >> another lost gospel, that of phillip, su...

>> after the last supper, jesus leads his disciples out beyond jerusalems walls. to a place called gethsemane. its here where jesus is betrayed by judas. >> peter then gets violent and attempts to defend jesus. its just an emotional rash act born out of love for jesus and a desire to protect him. >> after jesus arrest, peter is in danger for his life. we have a history of rebellions against the roman government and during most of these, if a leader is rounded up and executed, the followers are r...

From the cross, but she can be present to him. i think a lot of times when were struggling with people who are dying or ill, we can take comfort from mary magdalene and use her as our example, kind of ministry of presence. >> he may well have been abandoned by his closest male disciples, but mary magdalene is still there. >> thank god they were there to go through it with him. she wasnt alone in the end because of the bravery of these women. and i think it must have brought him some comfort at t...

Most likely, mary was a close friend of jesus and a follower, but not his wife. >> what the gospel of phillip clearly says is that there is some kind of a favored relationship between mary magdalene and jesus. that jesus does care for her more than the other disciples. and thats all it really tells us. >> but some scholars believe the nag hammadi texts do reflect a genuine tension between mary and peter. >> i think the tension thats reflected in some of the texts outside of the bible, i think th...