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September 6, 2018
>> barnacle was there. >> but this is a case and a point the president has made again and again. he said i finally got these guys to pay up. to which french president macron walked up to the mike as the next speaker and said known of that happened. in laymens terms for us and for people watching whats the value to americans of this investment in nato? >> well, as the admiral was saying, we do it not as an act of philanthropy, we do it as an extension of american self-interest. what were spending...
September 6, 2018
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September 6, 2018
Of john mccain, a week ago saturday and the eulogies of someone who put country first, who stood up to donald trump did not have some atmospheric effect here. i dont know that this. and, so, this is purely speculative. stipulate that. but this reads to me like it was written by someone who was either in the national cathedral or watching it and thinking, what are they going to say about me? >> mike, youre agreeing with that. i think all talking to each other on that day said that this is, this i...
September 6, 2018
Air and i think that given the stakes, its safe to repeat. it is pretty clear to me from people who are in a position to know that there has been a shift in the presidential change of command on military orders in a way that is reminiscent of what jim did in 1974. if you talked to sober-minded lawmakers and you say in a concerned voice, you know, im just really worried this guy might try to do something in a way, the reason i sleep at night is i know that is not going to happen. that means, i th...
September 6, 2018
>> i think so. again, there is a spectrum here. but at the end of the day any leader in any position has the responsibility to illuminate a situation when things are going off the rails. and i would argue doing so in a public way does a great service to the country. >> i think its much more complicated. that to me is not the hard case. imagine tomorrow president trump calls his senior people and gave them the order to attack north korea. he could say that kim has violated his commitments he made...
September 6, 2018
Military branch. >> admiral, may i ask you a pointed question? >> sure. >> if you were in a position where somebody gave you the order to assassinate a foreign leader, to do something that you believed was illegal or dangerous, would you ignore that oorder? confront the person in the chain of command or would you retire and tell the world about it? >> id take door number three. and i think at the end of the day, there is a spectrum of what the order is. but assassinating somebody, killing their ...
September 6, 2018
Youre surrounded by a president that might take the country right off the rails. >> well, its against the law to follow an order that you know is illegal. and, so, i think this is an obligation on all administration officials to resist something like that. may have a disastrous future to it in terms of impacting the united states. i think it does require individuals of conscious to be able to push back against such an order and to try to resist it. i think we have seen examples of jim mattis and...
September 6, 2018
Personally decided that as a private citizen, not as a government employee, not as a personal representative of president trump serving overseas, that i was going to push back and i was going to write my own narrative and voice my own criticism as an american citizen. what youve got here with the letter or the op-ed in the "new york times" is something thats very, very different. i think you can read it one of two ways, and i frankly am not sure exactly which one is correct. well know at some po...
September 6, 2018
United states. it is not illegal, though, and not off the foreign policy spectrum. we could face something like that. >> what are you suggesting that admirals and generals make decisions unilaterally? isnt that is what is happening right now, insubordination up and down the chain of command. >> people are saying we are willing to work with this but what you are talking about is exactly right. its not a dangerous precedent and unlike nixon, when people would do things about nixon. we found out la...
September 6, 2018
Independent senator angus king of maine who in his first race for governor had bumper stickers who said thank you chairman kim. that went over very well in maines second congressional district. they love kim in bangor. yesterday you talked to jack dorsey and sheryl sandberg. whats your response to the presidents tweet. he says thank you to chairman kim, we will get it done together. >> well, i think it points out one of the real problems is a linebacker of historical knowledge and grounding. thi...