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Physically with him during these key meetings with be witness necessary this case. >> and he seems reluctant to talk about donald trump, though he has said repeatedly that what he did he thinks violated his oath and attempted to get pence to violate his as well. >> they went into the garage and went up and this was all unfolding during the proud boys seditious conspiracy trial. after seeing through so many of the january 6th hearings and see their lives ripped apart because they bought into the ...

Wanted. it is august 10th now. what are the rules surrounding whether or not he could be in touch with the former president between now and then? >> he can be in touch with him. he just cant discuss the case, according to this order. but doesnt that seem unenforceable? how is that policed exactly? when walt nauta is the personal valet to the former president and carlos de oliveira is working at mar-a-lago. >> thank you. lets get into our legal panel with all this stuff. my guests are both msnbc ...

Week or next week, i think they would be looking at a trial after that. sometime no earlier than probably july or maybe even butting into the fall. at that point, the later it gets, the more trumps push to make it after the election might begin to make essential. if the mar-a-lago indictment gets pushed a month or two, now we see the alvin bragg indictment and the mar-a-lago case, perhaps the jigt case could be tried in that case. and that is the big one. that is the one about overturning democr...

Tried before the documents case because thats going to be in d.c. with a d.c. judge. >> dave the fact that if you cant find local counsel it does affect things legally for you, do you think this is something thats part of the plan from the trump defense team to delay things? >> we prosecutors dont believe in too many coincidences and when you have a defendant wliek donald trump, whose strategy is delay, delay, delay, and all of a sudden his co-defendant walt nauta said he cant find a local attor...

Bond. he has to abide by a special condition that both trump and nauta have to abide by. they cannot have communications about the facts of this case with witnesses that have been identified by the department of justice. so well be tuning in on august 10th to see who the counsel will be for carlos de oliveira. >> what is up with these individuals not being able to obtain local counsel? walt nauta as well. i believe his arraignment was delayed. is it this difficult to get local counsel in florida...

Central." ♪ this is mar-a-lago property manager, now codefendant, in former president trumps documents case, carlos de oliveira. de oliveira was indicted last week on four charges. he did not enter a formal plea during this brief hearing, and was released on a $100,000 bond. he will be formally arraigned next week. he, along with walt nauta, attempted to delete security footage and tried to alter, mute late and conceal evidence. according to the indictment, he told the i.t. director that the...

May 20th. of 2024. with all that has taken place so far, are you seeing that as more and more likely? >> i think it is certainly possible weve added new charges, there is been a new defendant added. that defendant has his own attorney. that attorney will want to file motions. that attorney will want to go through the discovery. but i dont think it is necessarily the first thing that judge cannon will do. she may wait to see how able mr. de oliveiras attorneys are able to get the discovery and ge...

That are charged in the case. the presidents argument that he has through executive power the ability to have these documents i think raises some novel questions of law that may not be present in the january 6th case. so it could be that as this case gets pushed along, there is a sufficient window in between to try the january 6th case. >> we talked a little bit, mary, about this conflict of interest. i want to talk about what were getting in here about paying for de oliveiras bills as well as n...

Charged with any mishandling of national defense information or classified documents. so his need to have access to all that classified discovery and participate in the classified information procedures act hearings is much, much less than mr. trumps. so his case is a straightforward obstruction case. the attempt to destroy the effort and conspiracy to destroy. so it could be streamlined. all of that said, im sure there will be an entreaty to change the trial date and push it out. >> so you actu...

Warning. at mar-a-lago, it may be difficult to secure the legal representation they think they need. in this case, the judge is deferring to them and allowing them to pick their own lawyers but i dont think it will delay things. judge aileen cannon has said she wants to move this along. she wants it to happen before the first pretrial hearing. and his lawyer john irving is on the case and fully able to start getting ready and to try to understand the charges. we should not lose sight of the sign...