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In the future on all things russia. that piece is gone. so our own intelligence officials and the dod trying to figure out what did happen and heres the worst of it. if putin decides he wants to engage in it, he said he told me x. i could have crimea and take the rest of ukraine too. now its just president trump. >> thats why you want a record. >> i never said that. >> also because mike rogers says it in my many years of being around you in congress and now, ill be like mike says it. but when th...

>> they can say this is not great for the constitution. they can say this is not great for congress, that this isnt the way it should be done, but they also have a political out just like the president would take. for the past couple of days people i talked to around the president have been very clear that they dont think there is any other political exit ramp other than this national emergency. the other thing that the president said both on twitter this morning and on his way out at the white ...

Federal workers here in utah have applied for unemployment benefits for that very reason, similar to what we heard from shelby. >> vaughn hillyard in ogden, thank you. let me bring back in gabby orr and aaron. the crisis is happening in washington and in living rooms like hers all around the country. let me show you some of the headlines from this. this is affecting -- we talk about those employees. its affecting a lot more people. your forecast is worse if you like to know what the weather is...

Amount. >> in short, im opposed to using defense dollars for non-defense purposes. obviously referring to this emergency, right? this national crisis. if the president declares it he would be able to take defense department money instead of having congress approve it to build the wall. have you discussed this with him, with congressman -- >> yes, i have. >> how did that go? >> its gone well. this goes back, gosh, months that the president has talked about it. there is bipartisan agreement on the...

We are looking at ways to combat the opioid epidemic. steve. >> as you know, most of those opioids, the fentanyl coming in the street opioids over the southern border. china sends it, the cartels then bring it across. i want to stop illegal immigration but, to me, fighting the drug epidemic, i mean, that would really, really make a huge difference. so there are certain things i can do as governor in florida and well do. but, man, we really need to stop the product from coming into our country. s...

>> we need a wall. i heard the president argue the wall is built. >> i dont need -- mexico will pay for it and i dont need congress and i can built it myself and i can have the d.o.d., department of defense build it. there is a real actual government shutdown over this that again, there is ani c issu that has to be reached that the government shutdown has to end. he ended up in this position tonight giving this oval office address out of sort of desperation while the people that work for the fed...

You cannot tell the press that. you cannot tell the press that. like help me maintain this. >> keep the non-sense going. >> the question, i mean, maybe the way out of this is that democrats can come up with away or makes more sense, republicans allow trump to declare that he won and he got the money and the wall is being built. just let him have his unicorn. just say its true when its not. he can campaign on it all he wants. im not sure it matters. >> i think if there is an out he basically uses...

Will he do that? will he invoke that on tv tonight? is he right to do that? >> he will try to work with congress first. that is what he wants to do but if congress isnt going to work with him hes going to look for any other means that he can use in order to secure the american public and if that means invoking national emergency and using dod fund that is possible. i would support him if congress isnt going to help them. heather: one of the stated reasons for that is known terrorists crossing th...

Need. so if you think about the way that the party traditional lines up, especially the republican party, if you are trying to take it from dod, a lot of hawks say hey, we get this is a problem, but we have more crisis abroad that this money was intended for. i think both in this specific case that you raise and more broadly, potential discontent among republicans is the chief brewing problem for president trump and his advisers right now. >> let me pause you there and ask you, it seems as if --...

House issues an order to the pentagon, it normally comes having been staffed in the interagency. you would already have an attorney general opinion that it was legal, a state department would have ruled on it, the white house general counsel, and the dod general counsel. if there was a notion that it was patently illegal, theyd say so, and at that point youd have an immediate constitutional crisis. i dont think ordering soldiers to put up barriers on the u.s. border is in any way necessarily ill...