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Before. >> jon i hope people will go to our website. santa barbara does crystal ball. take a look at the article we have by independent analyst rhodes cook. i went back and looked in detail at herman cains run for the u.s. senate in georgia in 2004. cain was really totally unknown for the most part in georgia. he ran for the senate against a heavily favored candidate who won, its senator johnny isaacson who is still in office. he did remarkably well, he got 23%, he financ finished second in the ...

Cain lost an election. gingrich lost an election. most of these candidates have lost election. you can learn a lot from losing elections. rick perry has never lost an election. if he does it he intends that this tax program lynn sure that he doesnt. bill: go and talk to mitt romney about what hes learned over time. professor, thank you. larry santa barbara doe from the university of virginia. martha: there are calls for transparency from the white house after three american citizens were killed ...

>>guest: they talked internally in the administration, and folks at the doe say we ought not to do this. >> so, you are talking about the additional loan that came after the original $535 million loan? >>guest: exactly, and especiallier, the evidence when they did the credit analysis, it was clear solyndra was in trouble and you can watch doe officials struggle between what they know when they look at data and the political pressure they are seeing when investors come into the white house talkin...

Changed a single mind. the blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. >> the attacks on romneys record are sure to drive the next gop presidential debate, which happens in new hampshire at dartmouth college tomorrow night. in washington, karl cameron, fox news. >> congressional staffers are pouring through more emails and memos relating to the failure of the solyndra green energy firm. senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendall goaler tells us where...

Investors? >> reporter: thats right. to help save solyndra earlier this year the administration and private investors reworked the companys loan. that agreement moved the u.s. government taxpayers largely behind a group of private investors in case the company went bankrupt. now solyndra is bankrupt and republicans say the newly-released e-mails the treasury department believes the department of energy may have violated the law in reworking this loan. a top treasury official writes this summer, ...

Creditors in a better position. >> private creditors would get paid back in this bankruptcy before the federal taxpayers. >> exactly. >> there is where the question happens, why did we breach the protocol that was required, why did we do something that was strictly prohibited. >> an e-mail from the treasury secretary to the department it budget director reads in part, quote, legal counsel believes that the statute and doe department of energy regulations both require the guaranteed loan should n...

Changed a single mind. the blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. >> the attacks on romneys record are sure to drive the next gop presidential debate, which happens in new hampshire at dartmouth college tomorrow night. in washington, karl cameron, fox news. >> congressional staffers are pouring through more emails and memos relating to the failure of the solyndra green energy firm. senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendall goaler tells us where...

its one of the u.s. militarys most important weapons systems playing a critical role in the fight against terror. and now theres new growing concern over the computers that concern drone aircraft. theyre infected with a persistent virus but it is only part after much, much bigger threat. our correspondent chris lawrence is investigating all of this for us. chris, what are you picking up? >> right now, officials dont know if this virus is benign or truly doing harm. it has not stopped t...

In 2008 and then he slid into a top job at the department of energy and used that post at d.o.e. to push for solyndra to get this loan and have a fancy ceremony announcing this loan. some people think this is problematic because his wife worked for a law firm that represented solyndra at the time. steve spinner no longer works at the department of energy. hes at a democratic think tank now. >> is this part of the investigation? >> this morning, congressman issa did not say anything about it on f...

Would get out of that industry. this is part ever the problem. the government -- >> surrender. >> no. not surrender. have we surrendered watches to the swiss because they make more watches? no. i want to correct something that was said. this was not technically a bush loan program. the energy bill, obama supported as a senator that supported this program. >> sure a loan guarantee. its different. >> then the, there was a lobbyist named steve mcbee, former appropriations staffer who went during th...