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earlier, is it that they thought with all these indictments and legal cases that trump was going to go by the wayside at some point and so they had to kind of play nice with the maga base and not lay a hand on trump in hopes of reaping the reward at some point? was it cowardice? was it both? >> i think their strategy was they hoped donald trump would get out of the race. that's not a strategy. that's like going into a game and you hope the other team doesn't show up. i think that it just shows that they were confronting the reality that they had to run against trump but they knew if they ran against trump, the base would not respond. so it comes down to the question of why are you running? if you're going to raise your hand and say you're still going to support you're running against even if he's convicted of a felony for trying to overthrow the government. i mean it's sort of an absurd
decision, i think. i think wednesday is a political decision not to show up to that debate because he does feel like he doesn't really need to go and show up. certainly everyone has tried to goad him into being there, saying it's weak if he doesn't show up, it's disrespectful to republican voters if he doesn't show up. none of it has registered with him in a way he cares about. they went to great lengths to get him to come to this. the republican chairwoman personally appealed to him to come. fox executives went to bedminster, had dinner with him, trying to get him to show. >> in terms of what we know about the surrendering next week. >> they're still negotiating the deal of what that's going to look like with secret service and the district attorney's office and the judge will have to sign off on the conditions they agreed to. the local sheriff said it's going to be standard operating procedure. obviously this is high profile prosecution in the country right now. and the idea it is going to be anything standard is obviously not likely to happen when he does show up.
most to lose in the gop hopeful debate assuming donald trump doesn't show up. he had sky high expectations. he has gone lower in the polls and i think he is running into a problem that some of us predicted who knew him in the house. he is a green candidate. he some successes in florida. he didn't have a real strong operation around him. this is honestly the least of his worries. he had staffer who posted a neo-nazi video, sense of pride he put out, looked like amateur hour on the desantis campaign and he tried to argue the adults will be in charge in my administration, we won't have leaks like the trump white house did. they have a leak and chaos every day. he is in a position where i kind of expect to see after the debate someone else pass him as the number two in the race. >> don't get often opportunities to burnish my science fiction interest, "blade runner," the light that turns twice as bright burns half as long. as yif you apry that to ron
to the debate. it seems an easy argument, and he's been making that and folks have been making that. he's far and away ahead, why would he even give them the time? why would he show up? what do you think? >> well, he would show up because he doesn't want others to have the stage. he would show up because he's attracted to the main stage. he would show up because he doesn't want people to think that he is afraid to be there because of these indictments. those are the reasons he would show up. i've thought all along that he would not show up because if he doesn't show up, it's not the same show. the audience will be smaller, there will be less interest. what we're seeing is he's planning a whole week of activities, including a press conference on monday that will dominate the week. i think, kate, this is a preview of the 2024 presidential race. the focus is not going to be on primaries and caucuses. it's going to be on hearings, on
federal government and that's all i'm going to say. i do think in nevada jack smith might have something more up his sleeve, and that's because what happened in nevada is particularly egregious. the secretary of state under nevada law is required to preside under any meeting of electors. that secretary of state, a republican at the time, had already signed a certificate for the real electors. and the fact that the two electioners have received partial immunity from jack smith makes me think jack smith is not done with the nevada story. even if it doesn't show up, will it show up in future indictments against any of the unindicted coconspirators or people who remain to be seen still in the shadows with respect to the trump federal indictment in d.c. >> do you think that -- so you suggest the jack smith case continues. he's building it out. we're going to see more of this. i think there's a lot of people who say what is the timetable
why they are not. and i wonder if you think that moves the a. g. in wisconsin too. >> i'm not sure, josh kaul has sort of been involved on this, right? -- others have asked him, do you plan to investigate? and he's basically said, i've been in contact with the federal government, and that's all i'm going to say. i do think in nevada jack smith might have something more up his sleeve. and that's because what happened in nevada was particularly egregious. the secretary of state, under nevada law, is required to preside over any meeting of the electors. that secretary of state, a republican at the time, barbara kodak ski, had already signed the certificate of -- >> biden -- >> correct. and the fact that two of nevada six electors had received partial immunity from -- jack smith -- makes me think that jack smith is not done with the nevada story and an -- even if it doesn't show up in and indictment against donald
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add all this together. and, as i said, you've got four cases already and two that may be coming very soon. trump's going to be spending a lot of time in court during the campaign. >> yeah. and he's expressed interest, erin, in at least one of those trials appearing personally. that's the e. jean carroll case which i believe is set for january. of course, he's said that before, and then doesn't show up. the other complicating thing here is obviously the former president and his team have really made an impression on the judge that he has a campaign to run, he's trying to run for office. he doesn't do a lot of retail campaigning. he doesn't show up at iowa state fairs, let's just say. he does a lot of weekend rallies. but, for now, the judge seems to have bought into this idea that this is a complicated case that there is going to be a lot of legal fighting, a lot of litigation over the classified documents that are at stake here. and she certainly raised that. she points out to that when in
media oxygen when it comes to coverage all over the place. chris christie has become the media darling of the hard left. he's stephanopoulos's co-host and running on one issue and that is i hate donald trump, donald trump is horrible. he's not a serious candidate to me. on that stage, assume for a second donald trump doesn't show up, that is opportunity for governor desantis and nikki haley and tim scott and larry elder, our friend, and guy by the name of vivek ramaswamy, who has come out of nowhere, to really shine. and they should be looking at it from that perspective, in my view. >> brian: mayor francis suarez, too. >> steve: would you like to offer a preview of coming
have got in the race. i think trump's numbers are an ice cube that will melt and desantis will do the work on the ground. >> neil: but he's not. he's not doing that yet. it might happen. but his support is coming down a little bit. does that worry you? you're quite right. these are snapshots. i say so often, once snapped, the image is shot. does it worry you? >> it doesn't worry me, neil. i'll tell you why for two reasons. all of these folks have got in the race. desantis' numbers are basically flat. two, there's an awful lot of room to grow. i think opening day for this race is the fox news debate. >> neil: so in that debate, if donald trump doesn't show up, maybe even if he does, aren't they naturally going to all set their sights on your guy because for the moment he's a strong number 2, certainly way ahead of the others, below him and that