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>> part of the strategy was to spin it off to get it to the district of new york. >> they want the evidence. >> they may get it. >> i was just saying -- >> but the narrative, its not about the special counsel, all the smear attacks on the partisans doesnt apply now because it is a southern district of new york, a different chunk of the justice department. that has complicated the ability to defend trump in the right wing media circles by vilifying mueller. and it has to be adding to the tension ...

Counseling about sexuality. what do you make of that? is it worthwhile to you the legislature would clarify this? when they have something big in front of them it raises problems. >> the drafter of the bill and sponsor says it does not apply to books, doesnt apply to the bible. this is about consumer protection action being taken by the state of california to say it is harmful into many people offensive practice, so-called conversion therapy, something that is harmful. in the opinion of californ...

Circuiting this entire process. and i think that is what he is going to do ultimately, take the fifth. >> no. no. >> can i finish allen. which is the president will denounce the process. it is a witch hunt. he doesnt want anything to do with this. there is nothing mueller can do if the president -- >> of course there is. he gives him immunity. >> never going to get the president immunity. >> let me tell you why. because an immunity doesnt apply in the impeachment proceeding. and no matter what r...

Ask about motive because i think it is relevant. but the larger point is, i think the president has a way of short circuiting this entire process. and i think that is what he is going to do ultimately, take the fifth. >> no. no. >> can i finish allen. which is the president will denounce the process. it is a witch hunt. he doesnt want anything to do with this. there is nothing mueller can do if the president -- >> of course there is. he gives him immunity. >> never going to get the president imm...

>> give him immunity. >> so jeff, why would he take the fifth if that is the case? >> because the muellers office will never give him immunity. they are not going to give him the opportunity to excuse from any criminal prosecution down the road. that is what immunity means, never be used against you. the idea that this central figure is going to be excused from any kind of criminal liability. >> if the department of justice believes that a president cannot be indicted then why would they, did th...

Proceeding, you are an a plus student but boy on this one, taking the fifth, i am not going to give you your grade. it wont happen. >> watch it happen. he is going to denounce. >> come back. >> jeff, to the professors point if he takes the fifth, im not a lawyer -- >> give him immunity. >> so jeff, why would he take the fifth if that is the case? >> because the muellers office will never give him immunity. they are not going to give him the opportunity to excuse from any criminal prosecution dow...

Come back some day? >> its going to be hard, but im not despairing yet. youve got a president who handled most of his life crises the way you just describe and it kind of worked up here in this environment. it really doesnt apply, working within government. to try to simply delegitimize anyone who might be saying something negative about you. but he is taking a pick and shovel to institutions and people, harming both the structures and the individuals who man the structures. and so my advice to ...

With the michael cohen case, is that one where he should also be recused? >> absolutely. he was cagey about it in his testimony. when a department official recuses from a case, they dont say so publically, it would give the public some indication of the scope of the investigation, but that doesnt apply here. theyve confirmed the investigation of michael cohen in court he could have announced if he was recused or not without giving any hint into the scope. heres the problem for him. if the depart...

>> have you sought any advice with career ethics officials about whether you should recuse yourself in the cohen matter? >> i have sought advice on those matters, and i have not met with the top ethics person on it, but i can assure you ive not violated my recusal. >> matt miller your reaction to the attorney generals situation with the michael cohen case, is that one where he should also be recused? >> absolutely. he was cagey about it in his testimony. when a department official recuses from a...

David, is his legal team. right now theyre in negotiation with the special counsel. theyre talking about the president, is he going to testify? what will the parameters oh of that be? how did they react when the president tweets things like this? >> well, not well. hes clearly unmanageable and has been in this investigation from the beginning. theres these two impulses. you see it may out on the sean hannity piece of this story, which is donald trump has a gut sense of how to attack everyone com...