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Even last month, the brief filed before you said even last month the president said its easier for muslims to immigrate than christian refugees from the middle east and, quote, hes going to be helping the christians big league. this is a repeated pattern of the president. indeed, two months ago to this day when the district court struck down the injunction in this case, scr 84, the president said, quote, moments ago i learned that a district judge in hawaii, part of the much overturned ninth cir...

Was the governments own theory. so if you see the -- if you view the 2c exclusion as an establishment or statutory violation, then the 2a worldwide study has to fall. but, judge hawkins, let me reassure you, that doesnt matter at all. that is, the government can and, indeed, has been conducting worldwide vetting, increased studies about all of these thing s. >> dont they do something along those lines with the laptops? >> absolutely. not justify the laptops but increase in vetting procedures wor...

President is disabled, every president, permanently, for making any nationality base distinctions under 1182-f, reagan with the cubans, carter with the iranians. unless you take that road, i dont think theres any way to read the statutes to provide the basis for the injunction we have here. if i could just reserve the remainder of my time. thank you. >> thank you, judge gould. may it please the court, the government would like to pretend that this courts decision in washington versus trump never...

And 2b and the district court said i have joined all of section 2 and section 6. i want to be clear with the court even if were wrong about standing and even if were wrong on the merits, the most he ought to be able to get under decisions from this court is an injunction under 2c for dr. el shiek and his mother-in-law or, at most, any students whom hawaii identifies if you conclude that hawaii has standing. he is conflating the nature of his legal argument with the kind of relief his clients are...

Statute that counsel wants to find in it. last thing ill say is just the overbreath of this injunction. counsel barely mentioned section six. sections 2 a and 2b of the order say that the state department and dhs and dni are to look at our information-sharing agreements with other countries and determine whether sufficient vetting procedures are in place and theyre supposed to produce a report. that was tied to the suspension, in a sense because the president said im not sure and that will free ...

To go. 1152 deals with the issuance of immigrant visas. we make nationality based distinctions every day. thats what the visa waiver program is. nationals of some countries have to get a visa. nationals of other countries dont. olson doesnt say anything different. at most it gets you an injunction very different from this one, one that would be more harsh to the people that counsel purports to defend. 1182-f, judge ginsburg, footnote two of her decision, the presidents sweeping proclamation powe...

Argument about the statute, judge gould, about 1182, then it would, i think, affirm the district courts injunction as a whole. its true 1152, nationality based discrimination, to up hold the junction as a whole, to read nonimmigrant visas as well as judge hawkins was illustrating. that is our reading. obviously there could be a question about that. with respect to the standing of refugees, both plaintiffs, we think, have standing. hawaii has standing because in washington versus trump, the court...

Fourth circuit panel saying why havent you done this. >> exactly. so let me read to you his words in the fourth circuit and go through it. we went back to the hawaii judge and said you couldnt possibly have meant vetting for these six countries and the district judge said yes. i dont think thats quite right. that is, they did ask to clarify the injunction not with respect to the six countries but just generally can they have internal consultation and the like. >> my question is broader than that...

Refugee admission. section 6 shouldnt even be on the table. look, ill wrap up in the same way. yes we did say to the fourth circuit last week that the precedent set by this court in the presidents immigration authority will long transcend this debate, this order and constitutional moment. counsel is right that this country is a beacon. what makes it a beacon is the rule of law. under the settle e ed legal rul for statutory interpretation, what the president did here falls squarely in his constit...

Provide enough guarantees for womens rights or minority religions. what do you make of the situation in egypt and the dangers it could turn into an islamist state? >> the bottom line in egypt is its bad for the egyptian in their political future. probably not as bad for the long-term interests of the united states. anytime a leader like morsi puts himself above the judiciary, thats not a good sign to democracy. anytime you put that language in there, its not good for their democracy. its troubli...