difficult for them already we know the children s preexisting condition piece that president obama touted doesn t go into effect until 2014. tax cuts are going to hit right away some of america s best, oldest and biggest businesses saying they have to lay-off people and cut benefits for their own employees in the wake of this bill. sean: george bush was called every name in the book on a regular basis. and then some. some that hadn t even been made up yet. sean: true, all right. the difference i think dana, you may be talking about one person, two people, three people, that are not reflective of a larger moment that includes stay at home moms and housewives and military members and the elderly. talking about in the case of the criticism against president bush, most came from congress. most of it came from senators. where were their voices then? remember, the member of the
reporter: the white house and the democratic leadership in congress argue under the old law companies were getting two deductions because they were able to deduct from the taxes they pay the amount of the subsidy that the government was giving these companies to help them out. so the government was getting double build. robert gibbs told reporters to insure that this is not something that s done without any time period or planning this doesn t go into effect until 2013. gibbs point out there is $10 billion in healthcare reform for support for businesses with early retirees. i have difficulty figuring out how the government is establishing a net savings when the closure of the loophole is supposed to save when they are giving companies money to help with this.
hear it soon. our law doesn t go into effect until july 1st. the federal mandate under the federal bill doesn t go into effect until december of 2013. it is not going to affect people of virginia immediately. but i think everybody wants to know what this answer is, because it could undermine the entire federal act. greta: interesting, because this goes to one specific part of the health care reform bill. is it your argument, or your belief if by chance the courts determine this provision about mandating insurance is unconstitutional, conflicts with the virginia statute, it would trump that aspect, does that mean the entire health care bill gets thrown out or just that which relates to the mandate? certainly the part that relates to the mandate. i think there is an argument that depending on what severeability pro fishings provisions that might be
hear it soon. our law doesn t go into effect until july 1st. the federal mandate under the federal bill doesn t go into effect until december of 2013. it is not going to affect people of virginia immediately. but i think everybody wants to know what this answer is, because it could undermine the entire federal act. greta: interesting, because this goes to one specific part of the health care reform bill. is it your argument, or your belief if by chance the courts determine this provision about mandating insurance is unconstitutional, conflicts with the virginia statute, it would trump that aspect, does that mean the entire health care bill gets thrown out or just that which relates to the mandate? certainly the part that relates to the mandate. i think there is an argument that depending on what severeability pro fishings provisions that might be
enough, somehow people will believe them. greta: what about all the discussion among the republican that they are going to seek to repeal it? silly, political? you have to be politically honest. if the republicans win a majority in the house and senate next year they will not be able to repeal the bill the president will veto it but they will be able to cut off spending and implementation. if they win the presidency in 2012, they can repeal it in february of 2013 that s the earliest you can repeal. this is a bill which most of it doesn t go into effect before 2013, 2014, 2015 in is a gradual takeover of the entire country s health system by the government. because it is so gradual you could repeal it in february 2013 and you would have effectively killed it. greta: speaker pelosi you know her job better than anyone else, having had the job.