about the bidens and their corruption, allegedly. with you i do think rudy giuliani is making a difficult time, and he did not send him over there to investigate anything and sometimes he has difficulty keeping up with what donald trump has to say and seems as if he learns about it from reporters which doesn t strike me as an ideal way to conduct your defense of the president. all right. folks, we have to leave it right there. thanks for coming on tonight. as we mentioned earlier, president trump appears to be distancing himself from his personal lawyer rudy giuliani, and that begs the question. is rudy giuliani about to get the michael cohen treatment? we ll take a look at that next. man: sneezes skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. oh, what a relief it is! so fast!
tom foreman has more details. you have to ask that to rudy, but rudy, i don t even know president trump is putting distance between himself and his personal attorney rudy giuliani and all of the accusations of dirty dealings abroad. never mind that trump specifically told the ukrainian president in that now infamous phone conversation i will have mr. giuliani give you a call. now he says of giuliani no. i didn t direct him, but he he he is a he is a warrior. rudy is a warrior. rudy went and you have to understand, rudy has other people he represents. it s a familiar pattern. trump praises his allies and friends effusively right before they get into trouble and then suggests he never knew them that well and certainly not what they were up to. take his previous personal lawyer michael cohen for two of the years worked hand in glove. they say i m mr. trump s pit bull, that i m his i m his
right-hand man. but when cohen came under intense legal pressure about campaign funds and payments to women allegedly involved with trump, charges that would eventually land cohen in prison and suddenly trump seemed to know nothing about what his lawyer had been doing. i haven t spoken to mike in a long time. he s a weak person and not a very smart person. have you talked to president trump in the last week or two? cohen s successor rudy giuliani insists he and trump are tight. you can assume that i talk to him early and often. amid the allegations, giuliani was making a sneaky end run on official u.s. foreign policy, giuliani tweeted, the investigation i conducted concerning 2016 ukrainian collusion and corruption was done solely as a defense attorney to defend my client against false charges, but that doesn t say trump ordered it, and the acting chief of staff s assessment? it s not illegal. it s not impeachable and the president gets to use who he
an insurance policy in case the president turned on him. you had a great piece about texting with rudy giuliani. how did you take that joke and have you heard from him recently after he was such a bold-faced name in those proceedings in the intelligence committee? i have heard from him. i talked to him a couple of days ago right before the holiday. he is pretty consistent in what he has to say, that he is just furious with the press. he thinks that the press is not giving him a fair shake and not paying attention to the fact, but obviously what rudy giuliani says and what president trump says changes all of the time. so what he said was not particularly surprising or game changing, but he just continues to kind of pretend like it s not possible that the president would ever throw him under the bus each though it seemed like what he said the other day might be an indication that he s about to and that he, you know, doesn t think he did anything wrong and the real story is
worked hand-in-glove. he says i m mr. trump s pitbull and right handman. reporter: but when cohen came under intense legal pressure about campaign funds and money, suddenly he knew nothing about what his lawyer had been doing. i haven t spoken to michael in a long time. he s a weak person and not a very smart person. he insists they are tight. i talk to him early and often. reporter: amid foreign policy, guiliani tweeted the investigation i conducted concerning 2016 ukrainian collusion and corruption was done solely as a defense attorney to defend my client against false charges. but that doesn t say trump ordered it. the acting chief of staff s assessment.