between his base and a hard place? well, he s stuck having to eat his own words. he negotiated against himself in the white house saying that he would own the shutdown. if he had a problem with the clean cr he should have told the senate before they took the bill up. the senate passes a clean cr without any objections from the president and now he wants to upend a senate tradition on the filibuster that s been around for i don t know how many decades. this is chaos. it was totally avoidable, and now we were being asked and i voted for it to vote for a $5 billion plus up for the wall and disaster relief, which is funded, in order to get a bill out of the house. no one really knows what the next step is at the moment. are you frustrated at all with your leaders for not standing up to the president, if the not just sending him a clean cr? well, i would have tested that, but i also think, listen, i was in conference yesterday morning when it was very clear that the votes to pass
the senate, republicans and democrats to keep the government open, to avoid a shutdown without border wall funding. it was a last minute midnight decision, conversation perhaps between president trump and speaker ryan, and all of a sudden you see the emergence, the appearance of another border wall, an effort to fund the border wall. there aren t the votes in the senate. we shouldn t be including that in the effort to keep government open. we can debate and discuss a border wall at a later time. let s keep government open. let s continue to serve the american people. there s no chance the border wall will ever pass the democratic house. i ll tell you that s right, but the conversation ought to be in the context of broader comprehensive immigration reform because one wall doesn t make for an immigration policy. a wall the length that the president is proposing will be breached. more immigrants are in this country illegally who come through our airports and seaports and not across th
president doesn t possess. when he first came into office he surrounded himself with people that had principles and values, most if not all of them are gone. so we certainly want to see the return to that office, secretary of defense someone who is stable. who s got principles, who s experienced. congressman costello, is this going to be a major turning point for the republican party? i mean, i was struck by mitch mcconnell s statement on this. it seemed to me to be the strongest statement he s ever put out pushing back against this president. is this a point where do republicans now feel like the wheels are coming off the bus? here s why i think it s important. and by the way, i think we can agree this is a bigger issue than the shutdown. this is much broader and i think goes much deeper in terms of america s foreign policy and are we viewed as a leader, a reliable leader around the globe. when whomever he nominates to be the next secretary of defense, issues on why this polic
democrats for the shutdown despite his efforts to shift the blame. additionally, you see a disconnect between the majority of voters and his base. the majority of voters, 60% in that poll said that even though they may support some enhanced border protection, they would not support shutting down the government in order to get that. that is almost flipped with his base, the majority of his base wants to see him shut down the government in order to get some progress towards this core campaign promise of building a wall on the southern border. so you see the bind that president trump is in. he doesn t have a whole lot of leverage. democrats hold the cards. he needs them, they don t need him, and further they know that he could potentially come out of this politically scarred. garrett, let me ask you too, one of the other interesting story lines is of course jim mattis, and we re going to talk more about that later on in the hour. how do you think that firing,
fast moving developments in the effort to avert a government shutdown. the senate republican leaders are at the white house right now, reaction coming in from both sides of the aisle. democratic congressman eric swalwell slamming the president in this tweet. you re a child, this isn t hot potato. this is people s lives. their small business loan, their first home loan, they paycheck and dignity at christmas. you re given options to secure the border and prevent a shutdown. eric swalwell was in iowa yesterday. capitol hill correspondent garrett haake has been following every development. anything new in the last couple of minutes since we last spoke? reporter: we re still waiting on word out of that meeting primarily. swalwell s tweet is putting into words what a lot of folks up here are thinking. they see this almost as a free pass to take a shot at president