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Our private phone calls. some heralding this as a victory for privacy. other say its a win for the terrorists. hear their take. mike baker, former cia operative. is this a good day or bad day for private security and security, alex? >> i sympathy its a good day for privacy. from a security standpoint. with this amount of data, it hasnt been shown effective in stopping any attacks. the raw amount of data, this is not -- >> mike, do you agree? >> well, look, maybe my colleague here has access to c...