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Said. the simple fact is that his proposal is unrealistic. it will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. it will violate peoples civil liberties. it will create friction with our third largest trading partner that is not necessary. and i think hes wrong about this. >> joining me now is nbc news senior white house correspondent chr jansing. theres been a lot of comparison between the two and who is setting the pace about which topics, what issues to be discussing. what is jeb bush saying to contr...

Funders saying, yeah, i mean, thats the context of this conversation. >> it is. it also follows, andrea, what is a thoughtful plan which is this idea that if you simplify the tax code, you close the loopholes -- which is where i think this is coming from -- that in the end, ultimately, you may end up paying more or less tax. he wanted a graduated percent. when he says he wants hedge fund people to pay more, what he said was more than the middle class. so its more thoughtful than it comes across ...

Enforcing them. and now as it applies to hillary clinton, she can do all of her work over a private e-mail server, even though thats against the law and against public policy and this president just decides which laws he wants to enforce, which ones he doesnt. executive orders on immigration or not. but the american people are frustrated that the government doesnt work and the government cant work if you dont follow the laws. >> before you get a chance to take on hillary clinton, potentially hil...

>> talked about his name being apollo. he talked about satan. he talked about his brothers in russia and china. but he never really engaged the negotiator. >> the spectacle draws a crowd of onlookers and captures the attention of local news station. they record allison brandishing his sword with no sign of letting up. during the course of the standoff, police attempt several nonlethal strategies from rubber bellets to pepper spray and mace, but nothing deters him. after 11 hours the police try o...

A plan to avoid taking out college loans. instead, students would give their college part of their income after they get a job. thats what purdue university is row posing. does it make sense to you? you are the maven on this kind of stuff. >> theyve tried this already. it doesnt work. the reason it doesnt work is because investors. this is how its been tried before where theyre asked do you want to invest in kids earnings after they graduate, and nobody wants to do it. its not really a viable id...

Temporary guest worker program for those people here illegally working in those businesses so we dont disrupt those sectors of the economy. >> why isnt that the law? why cant somebody come up from central america in the picking season, make a good bundling of money and take it home and have the government on their side and maybe pay for social security. why dont people push common sense solutions like that if americans dont want those picking jobs? >> look, im in agreement with you. in fact -- >...

To take them. if that timetable is right we will see them after labor day. >> what if it doesnt work, lawrence. >> thats the point. >> the thing thats going to well for trump right now he is not your typical politician. he doesnt play by the rules. you heard him in the event in new hampshire that kasie was at saying people were offering him money $5 million from one guy he turned down. he said i cant be bought. i know how the game will play. the other guys will come in with outside money and i w...

>> what if it doesnt work, lawrence. >> thats the point. >> the thing thats going to well for trump right now he is not your typical politician. he doesnt play by the rules. you heard him in the event in new hampshire that kasie was at saying people were offering him money $5 million from one guy he turned down. he said i cant be bought. i know how the game will play. the other guys will come in with outside money and i will spend my own money. thats part of his narrative. it may serve to reinfo...

Said he wants to stop the government monopolies in the egts system. >> i think two,000 government run monopolies is not the best organizational model. unionized political sized is not the model for educating children. we should open it up. we should give parents more choices. >> ohio governor john kasich prefers a best practices approach to educational standards over a common core. >> if i were president, i would want to travel across the country to state legislatures telling them about the labo...

Argues that someone like hillary clinton is in washington too long and donald trump, this is a guy who is supportive of hillary clinton and said nice things about her and turned a 180 and very difficult on her and calling her the worst secretary of state ever. but you know, he has the microphone and all over the media and hes the story everyones talking about and to the extent he uses the microphone and turn into her enemy number one, that is all better for him. >> all the better for him, but wh...