society. judge chutkan is 61 and has donated in the past two democratic campaigns. cannon is a former federal prosecutor who has roughly three years of experience on the bench, and has tried just four trials to a jury verdict. chutkan is a former public defendant who has nearly a decade of experience on the bench, and has tried roughly 45 cases to jury verdict. judge chutkan has also prosecuted dozens of january 6th rioters, and she s been tough on sentencing. whereas judge cannon, according to new reporting, she made a bunch of mistakes in a recent trial. both previously ruled in cases involving the ex president. judge tanya chutkan ruled against him in his attempt to shield white house records from the january 6th committee. she wrote that, quote, presidents are not kings, and trump is not president. while judge aileen cannon repeatedly ruled in trump s favor last year, and a conservative 11th circuit court of appeals issued decisions overturning those rulings of hers.
running for office. and so, local council, you have to have someone if it s on top of the scheduling, on top of the arguments, and the briefing takes place whenever there is a court appearance, including down to logistics, and moving donald trump from one courtroom to the other. this is a lot of work. $40 million in legal fees so far, he s gonna double that or triple that, as we move closer. and all for what? because he wants to be president, because he is leading in the polls, and because he s raising a lot of money. but running for president, and being under 75 to 80 felony counts that he s been indicted on, completely inconsistent and impossible to do. that if is going to come, it s going to come to its head really sooner than later. we have this new ruling over in florida from trump s mar-a-lago judge, aileen cannon, asking about the, quote, legal propriety of using out of district grand jury and seeming to decide what trump codefendant walt nauta. briefly unpack that for us. wha
allegations. and trump s lawyers asked the judge to narrow that proposed protective order to shield only genuinely sensitive materials from public view. jack smith s team just issued their reply, less than three hours later, and it is a fiery one. there s a lot to dig into as we read over. and we ll have more on that momentarily. now, we know that donald trump has a history of bullying people and intimidating witnesses. we saw this on full display and in his civil trial earlier this year, when the ex president was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming a woman named e. jean carroll.
and they punished her for basically doing trump s bidding for him. and yet, here she is doing it again. in a new ruling this morning, judge cannon appears to be doing homework for donald trump s coconspirator, walt nauta. cynthia alksne is a former federal prosecutor and she joins me now. cynthia, thanks for coming on the show. today, judge cannon issued a ruling questioning the special counsel news. washington, d. c. grand jury investigating the documents case. what do you make of her ruling? and could you explain what she s basically telling trump s coconspirator walt nauta to do? well, basically, what she is doing is kicking the can down the road. i mean, remember that jack smith s people had to push her to set a trial date. and now, she has to have an excuse on why that trial date has to be, because of the trump people want to have the case continued.
like me, director comey, director andy mccabe, other folks fired, very much saw this in action, and trump has doubled down saying, yes, i ve done it, like he s frequently done. he s up to the line, where he sees no resistance at the line and pushes forward. i am deeply worried about what happens in a future trump administration, for all these folks who work day and night, for special counsel jack smith and others, to hold trump to account for his potentially illegal acts. yeah, i think it s probably not just about a second trump term to. it could be marching orders for the republicans running committees in congress. we know effectively doing trump s bidding, our jim jordan, chair of the house judiciary committee, trying to get alvin bragg to the hill. we know the oversight committee chair as decided to hold the fbi director, trumps fbi director christopher wray in contempt of congress. there are real consequences for