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Thank you, sherif. Good luck the rest of the evening. Thats it. Was it all you hoped it would be . [ laughter ] didnt get a good look. You want me to leave . You have had a long day. These folks cant go until you all go. I know we have talked about leaving the equipment here. Dont leave it here, because you wont want to be her tomorrow. You are welcome to be here if you dont have a role 22 for whats going on tomorrow. Did we find anything . It has to be a group decision. They can come and collect. You are watching a feed from the courthouse in Fulton County, georgia. That is judge Robert Mcburney on the bench who just told all of the reporters in that room that, quote, you need to leave. He said he meant it in a nice way. What has just happened and we will get some Expert Advice on this in just a moment, but under Georgia State law, when a grand jury handsdown an indictment, it goes immediately to the Presiding Judge who has been overseeing the work of The Grand Jury. In this case, tha

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:07:00

in any way, then it can obviously be an issue. of course, the clerk said no and we would note that as people were walking in, people being from the clerk s office, there was a gentleman with a phone and he was video recording this as they were walking in. providing more corroboration that nothing happened from when the jury for person signed off on that bill and got it to the clerk s office to be stamped in and delivered to judge mcburney. there are 10 indictments is reporting. we believe the grand jury s work is done. 10 is the total number of indictments and they are not expected to keep working and continue building on additional charges on any additional defendants? reporter: that s correct. our reporting from a photograph taken of the cover page is that it is 10 indictments and the language is exact. it says that there were zero for the number 10 was handwritten into a blank line

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:11:00

it was a long period of time and we actually had jeff duncan, former lieutenant governor of georgia who was also in for an extended period of time. what is noteworthy is that one witnessed by george sheedy who stumbled upon a meeting of the fake electors who shoot them out of the room and said this is an education meeting. he was literally sitting next to jeff duncan waiting to testify and after a period of time, the d.a. came up to him the office came up to him and advised him that his testimony wasn t needed. whatever evidence he was going to provide to the grand jury was deemed to not be necessary. there is not a requisite or minimal number of witnesses that are required to present evidence to the grand jury. in this instance, we don t know the total number at the end of the day that appeared, but whatever it was, it was enough per a probable call standard for 10 indictments to be returned.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:15:00

reasonably anticipate that the answer would be no, because i think that it would feed into a false narrative. there is some type of rush to judgment in some way and i think that if i were to read them myself, it would be the rate for the clerk s office to be able to show those documents and make them public for all of us to be able to read. is it clear to you at all or do you have a smart supposition as to what is happening after 9:00 p.m.? as far as i understand, this is a grand jury that has been meeting on monday and tuesday. those of the two on which they meet today. this is monday night. why press to get this done over the course of a single day until late in the evening rather than knock off at dinnertime.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:09:00

on the presentation of evidence and ultimately the standard is probable cause. was there probable cause met? was it provided in the nature of the evidence to the members of the grand jury? to re-emphasize, it is an issue in the state of georgia and you have 23 grand jurors, 16 of those must be present through the entirety of the present enough evidence, but only takes 12 of those 23 grand jurors to boat a charge through. let me make sure that i understand what you mean by the no true bill of what you just explained. this is based on reporting that shows the cover page of what was brought into the judge, then delivered to the court s office. 10 indictments, then zero in front of no true bill. is plain english interpretation of that is that the prosecutors asked the grand jury to return 10 indictments? they said yes to all 10 and

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