and anybody who supports this, anybody who defends this, is complicit in endangering america, endangering the men and women who are putting themselves in harm s way every single day, and every single night, in order for us to enjoy these freedoms. let me be clear about this, donald trump is not running for president to make america great again. donald trump is not running for president to defend our interests overseas. donald trump is not even running to represent the people that voted for him in 2016 and in 2020. donald trump is running for president in order for him to stay out of jail. these are serious crimes, these are serious accusations, donald trump is a national security risk, and he needs to be beaten in a primary, so that we can be done with him once and for all. and i hope i can be and that debate stage, in order to have
like, you are a traitor to your country. they don t want to have the courage to do that. i saw elise stefanik tonight come out in support of donald trump. i ve seen everybody that continues to do this. i don t understand it. i guess if you have given enough of your soul, so much of your soul, it is like sunken cost. you just have to keep on going. but it said to watch. and i am surprised because, again, i thought humanity, and particularly some of my colleagues, had a red line. and miles, as you talk about in your new book, your book really about what a next trump term could look like and when you see the conduct here in this indictment that his alleged what does it make you think about how he governs? how he leads the people around him? what is your assessment of about what we should take away from that? well, i think that this superseding indictment tonight, abby, really firmly finishes
are absolutely devastating, and help a prosecutor. tell us what those paragraphs described. well, 75 to 91% talk about the doj attorney called one of the attorneys for donald trump on june 23rd, said, you are going to get a grand jury subpoena for security footage. the next day, walt nauta changes this travel plans instead of going to illinois he goes to mar-a-lago and arrest history. there s a part in that section there where he itextingm that he is going down to florida, and he is using the shifting emoji to describe the secrecy of doing all this. often in the legal word, world, we talk about people state of mind, clearly the folks around trump knew that they were doing something surreptitiously that was probably wrong, maybe even illegal for trump. you know, i completely
like this, were emails and you get the subpoena you get to subpoena. and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 emails. and then or bleach them. i would like to see the server. i think it s very important for this country to see the server. and joining me now is one of donald trump s 2024 republican rivals, former texas congressman will hurd. we played that matchup, really, to illustrate how much this has been a part of the public life, and now to see, in this indictment, pretty clear evidence, allegations here, that donald trump was the one who directed his aides to try to delete surveillance footage, to delete this server, so that federal investigators would not see what was i mean, i have never been indicted. i am not a lawyer. but if you are deleting evidence it is because you know you are committing a crime.
i m old enough to remember seeing him on the enquirer magazines and everything else. but this is who he has been forever. he is, for a lack of a better way to put it, a mob boss. he tells you what to do, the minions do it. they don t stop to think about their liability. only, this time, they are playing with what you said espionage and federal crimes and this is really serious stuff here. very. he s been broadcasting, though, for a long time, though, right? this argument that i don t believe that i did anything wrong. i can declassify these documents. they are not kept any old place. the secret services there regarding them. we ll, if he really didn t think he did anything wrong what we have now learned today really decimate set. because, why are you debating the leading surveillance footage? why are you having boxes moved? why are you hoping that your lawyers will kind of live for you? wink wink so, i don t really see how he now maintains that argument, which really has problems