a crime against the state, the people. you don t fleed need to break the law to commit a high crime. reporter: the founders expected the process would be partisan but they probably didn t envision this. president zelensky quote loves your as. was there a quid pro quo? the answer is yes. it was a perfect call. this is a hoax. reporter: what do you think the founders would think of donald trump? oh, boy. i m going to plead the fifth on that one. let me answer it this way. tyranny was one of the main things the founding generation was worried about. demagoguery was a second one. james madison and donald trump have nothing in common. but the trump character was alive and well at the time of the american revolution. somebody with blarny and salesmanship and a pension for