a mini state in two countries. but it is true that if you want people to say don t panic, don t overreact, don t start swinging a club in the sense of we re not going to have any refugees here even if they re 3-year-old kids. the economist said since 9/11 we ve resettled 750,000 refugees in america. not one connected to domestic terrorism. but the wave of emotion against that feeling, the only way you re going to stop that is to show what you re doing and there are results. this is where i thought the president was tone deaf. rhett me ask jean robinson about that. i think a lot of us felt that, that the optics and the tone were off. that does matter to an extent. i wonder if it has anything to do with what he was, our relationship with turkey. you would think there would be an urgent call for collective response to this and to really
muslims. they re trying to change how europe does their policymaking. the u.s. said they d take 10,000 to 20,000 refugees over the next few years after thorough background checks. the background check s are not thorough in europe now. the u.s. says they ll have thorough ones. does it concern you taking in the refugees, or from a law enforcement standpoint, is your greater concern people who grew up in the united states who may be radicalized online? anderson, when you get into a situation like this, you have to be concerned that you don t overreact. this needs a measured, logical response. there was one terrorist identified as someone who may have snuck in with the refugees. that still means there are seven people who got in different ways. i think that we have to be concerned about people coming into the country. we have to look at their backgrounds. if we re able to identify that they have been on jihadist websites, if we re able to
well, you have this moment where time kind of slows down. you have to make a split second decision. honestly, i can remember having this, gunshot, don t overreact. then jumping up. your adrenaline kicks in. and it s very emotional. i m also jet lagged. i m an american here in paris from san francisco. i was quite tired. my adrenaline kicked in. ran into the restaurant. i was very scared. crying and pretty upset. have you been able to reach your family in san francisco and they re alerted you re okay of course? yes, i ve been in touch with my family since the very beginning. we re glad. we re glad you re okay. we appreciate you spending time to speak with us today. we wish you safe travels as you head back home soon. margot, thank you very much. coming up next right here live on msnbc, more on the nature of these attacks in paris and if they can be a sign of things
the case because, they were taxiing for takeoff, if they had gotten airborne this thing happened we may talk about a whole different scenario. bill: the crew was warned by another jet on the tarmac. it was taxiing. apparently pilot said, got something coming out you should not. that is when they shut it down. 100 people on board if that gets in the air, what are options for a pilot? well at that point you go through the emergency procedures. obviously one of the things with an engine fire on takeoff there are some immediate procedures but you don t overreact. you just don t start pulling throttles back and shutting down engines, if you do in two engine airplane, you believe it or not you have 50/50 shot pulling wrong inbegin. if you do that, now really hopeless. what they do bill: does that happen? yes, that does happen. that s why you go through these procedures where you don t overreact. the thing in the navy we used to call back in the day before digital watches, whenever you
prestated biases against police. this started with whether the police and school overreacted in what clearly looked like a bomb, but it was in the hand os of a young man who was a muslim who said he was just trying to impress his science teacher. he was placed in handcuffed and everybody said whoa, whoa, don t overreact. but the controversy comes because a, there s questions whether it was an overreaction because it looked like a bomb. but b, the visits he and his family paid in the days and weeks after. how did they meet with a war criminal? he is a war criminal who is warranted apparently there s an outstanding warrant for his arrest for his war crimes, including beheading children in front of their parents. that s right. and the fact that ahmed muhammad is meeting with him is due to the fact that his family is