caused some issues. china has expressed disposition several times. we hope the relevant sides can objectively review this issue and seriously review conduct, communication and dialogue to properly deal with the issue as soon as possible. all right, so joining me now to talk about what china has at stake in this controversy is our global affairs correspondent. great to have you on. who was china talking to, in your opinion, when it is calling for calm? i think china is talking to both the united states and north korea. china is saying, listen, we understand your reaction. this is an affront to the dignity of your leader, where the people although it s a lot of propaganda in north korea, the people really revere kim jong-un. so they understand how controversial this movie is, and they re saying listen, don t overreact here, don t provoke some confrontation with the united states that s bigger than this is. you need to calm down. and to the united states, it s also saying listen, we
absolutely barbaric and horrific. that s right. myndolences go out to the family. as we say all the time. most officers are doing a great job for this family. the concern right now, as you write, will there be overreaction? most of the time in my 30-year career in law enforcement, i found a lot of times when instances happen like this, there is a little overreaction. we re hoping the police left-hand side. don t overreact. do your job. of course we put on the badge and the gun. we know our lives are in danger. at any given time, you get somebody throughout that wants to take the police out. that s exactly what this guy did. he was a maniac of himself and i agree what the officer just. officers should be more alert. we know when we put that badge and that gun on. is there a rick of overreaction? i m not so sure about a risk
context given 10, 13 years ago. 3,000 dead americans, some jumping for their lives on to new york city sidewalks. context is very important. here we cop to a human level. human for us at the cia and human for those making this criticism. let me tell you something i never heard after 9/11. you know, guys, with regard to this terrorism thing. it s pretty important. but whatever you do, don t overreact to it. i never heard that, bill. now let me be a bit critical. now that we made everyone feel more comfortable. they stopped complaining that we are not doing enough to make them feel safe. but now that we are making them feel safe again, they are complaining we did too much. bill: we look forward to more information in the coming days and we hope you will come back
and give recommendations. it doesn t have any of those. i was with the government for ten years after 9-11. let me tell you a phrase i never heard from anybody in any position of authority, whatever you guys do about the terrorism threat, please, please, don t overreact. never heard it. so if you look at hayden s testimony in 2007, it does not match a lot of what s in this report, which we will ask him about coming up. but carole lay the president says we pay for the mistakes, that truly the extent the white house feels about this, just mistakes along the way? i think more what you are seeing is how they will approach what they see is a fraught, volatile debate and the president is sticking to his line that what happened is contrary to american values and in doing that, he is trying to avoid two issues. one is the legal question about
has been politicized. as bad as some people think cia behavior was with regard to these 100 or so detainees, if everyone on the planet used cia behavior as the model, the over all treatment of detainees on earth would actually improve. this report was supposed to have conducted interviews, hearings and give recommendations. it doesn t have any of those. i was in government for ten years after 9/11. and let me tell you a phrase i inform heard from anybody in any position of authority. whatever you guys do about this terrorism threat, please please don t overreact. never heard it. there s also debate about whether congressional critics of the cia s tactics not only knew about what were being employed but chose not to speak about it until years later. nancy pelosi was briefed in too