0 who else wasç told about th? w some other members of senir staff. can you tell us who? i don t have a list for yo> you were asked in the briefing last week about white house officials being aware, you just mentioned the counsel s office. you never mentioned the chief staff i think i said that whitenew house counsel knew. i didn t know tillou friday. i m getting this answer to you know. doesn t answero theld questi. the counsel made the decision that this is not the kind ofhe thing that you notify the president of, of an investigation is complete. the president doesn t knowsh about everything in every agency of government. this was in cincinnati where the irs office is. i don t think you can hold him a accountable. i can tcc account for every conversation that might have had outside the white house. i can t tell how many people añpd time and again that the taxpayer-funded witch-hunts ended more than a year ago, tonight there are people in this studio audienc
0 phone call from these people. i think they have more responsibility to the taxpayer. look, hundred percent agree with that. this conference in anaheim was $3,000 presidential suite. to me that is the more egregious example than the fact that they ran 220 different conferences. think to add to your point, the money was set aside to hire more enforcement officials, to hire more people. instead, they made a little entry, accounting entry and moved it over to their party budget and big conference instead. it double as taxpayers. one they are wasting our money and money that was supposed to set aside to help us we lose completely. it doesn t have to be this way. the irs has a $12 billion budget. that is $42 for every man and woman and child in america. six months of netflix just for the budget of irs. flat tax could reduce that expense by about 935%. the government would never go for it because it doesn t punish the rich to help the poor. that is worth something exploring. neil: i
0 ssu yes, i can give you assurances. there s absolutely no targeting. they added the names tea party and patriot to the list of cases that should be centralized in this group. i first learned about it from the same news reports that ied a think most people learned aboutt this. i think it was on on friday. i ve reviewed h the treasurypar department watchdog s and thetd 0)hpa misconduct is inexcusable. i mtmñ< answer. i don t know the i details,. sir. i was frankly unaware. > i don t remember the precie date. i don t remember. it s not mydon area. i don t know. i personally don t remember. re i will not answer anyçut questions or testify about the subject matter of thisroat committee s meeting. we had to wait appropriately until the report was publicized, or published, for the president to bei able to review it andond respond as he did very quickly. there was a white houseas counsel, kathy rumler wash. notified on april 24th. who else wasç told about th?
right now. eric: welcome, everybody. the i.r.s. hits keep coming. now we find out that the agency is dropping $4 million of your tax dollars on the conference at a swanky hotel in 2010. junket with the star trek skit and infa mouse line dancing. it all went down the same time that i.r.s. began targeting conservative groups. get this. they were learning how to be open and transparent with taxpayers. eric, i mean they are going after the tea party groups that want to cut down on government spending. the same time they are spending $4 million on a conferencconference? $3,000 for presidential suite. i m a successful guy and i never spent $3,000 on hotel room. it s part of a trend. the g.s.a. with their lavish spending the clown and mind reader a couple year ago or the v.a. they treat the money like it s not theirs because it s not. it s not just inexplainable, it s inexcusable. eric: yes. it s inexcusable. to spend taxpayer money privously, arrogantly like that. but at
organizations. she answered to holly poz who then answered to lois lerner. these lawyers are in washington, d.c. and they provide guidance, oversight, direction to the cincinnati office. my sources in cincinnati say they are, employees in the cincinnati office are incredibly upset with cindy thomas which is the top woman in cincinnati for not defending them against the claims of people like lois lerner and like former commissioner doug shulman and steven miller that there were rogue agents in cincinnati. megyn: they know they weren t rogue and they were doing what they were told to do. and you reference the house oversight committee, one woman came out and said, i was essentially a front person. i had no autonomy to act on