relations with not only the taliban and those in control of afghanistan, but also a closer land bridge to the iranians. arthel. arthel: yeah. very complicated. i have more but we have to move on for now. trey, thank you very much. eric. eric: it seems that china will benefit from this as well as iran. for more on the imminent taliban takeover of kabul and what comes next, lieutenant douglas lutz is here, former deputy national security advisor to coordinate wars in iraq and afghanistan. your reaction, your thoughts, having worked at the highest levels of government in our country to the imminent fall of that country. well, it s stunning, stunning for me. i worked on this problem for years, many other american colleagues, hundreds of thousands of american troops and