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Number of witnesses, pages, evidence, stacked up against barr and durham saying we disagree but we wont provide a page to explain how thats supported? >> when pete williams asked the attorney general, do you plan on issuing a public report on the durham case, i dont know yet, i havent talked about it. its going tok to be lingering over everybodys head as a tool, political tool. the goal posts have moved as you said. now were all supposed to be focused on durham. we learned something today in the...

Conversation for experts and lay viewers alike. im wondering if you can walk us through as what you saw as important bottom line coming out of the first part of this hearing. >> well, bottom line, michael horowitz who is a highly respected inspector general, neutral arbiter, if you will, defending his report and conclusions. those conclusions include something for everyone, which is what lindsey graham is seizing on, very clear mistakes made by the fbi in the first approval and subsequent reappr...

Long time, this is very, very difficult to watch because the politicalization that has gone on here is unprecedented. criminal investigations for no good reasons or purpose, this is unprecedented. >> i am old enough to remember when people are critical of public safety and publications. >> thats the rule. >> maya, i want you to broaden out for us. we gotten expert analysis on the details. we watched this hearing. the hearing really battles this out. again it comes against the backdrop of another...

His power. against that backdrop theres more interest in this notably at times obscure hearings. this is what were dealing with. it is 400 pages, this thick. this is the report, supposed to guide the facts today. as a prosecutor watching the hearing, putting as much politics aside as you can, how much of what you saw in congress was following these facts versus just trying to layer right over them with other views? >> as a prosecutor, criminal prosecutor, i worked for all moefrt two decades with...

Do a number of other instances to your point did not pull a trigger on other instances. now we have the defense of the president from that we are hearing right now in this hearing in the senate being abuse of power. what william barr is doing as an agent of the president is using the powers to direct the publics attention to debunk conspiracy theories that the independent non partisan public servants have said, no, there was no political bias here. thats really what we should be concerned about....

Hisamitsu. welcome back to msnbcs special coverage. an ongoing hearing of the russia probe. you can see the room has not felled backup yet. well bring you the important part of the hearing. the news that would dominate no matter whos president or what hearing is going on, the historical occurrence of the escalating impeachment of the

Is that correct? in your experience? >> i dont know of another situation where we we didnt get those add attached in our appendix to our report. >> thank you, chairman. >> thank you senator. >> thank you for your comments about senator lee and myself. >> absolutely. we will adjourn, recess until 1:00. im ari melber reporting live in msnbc headquarters. we have been watching live coverage of this much anticipated and at times admittedly dry senate judiciary committee hearing. this is all about ...