entertainment. tv shows made in hollywood and new york, and so the people who are making the shows often don't have the sensibilities of middle america, but i hope it does not happen. i hope that what happens instead is what is happening on the show where you have people who disagree. and aunt jackie and roseanne who still love each other, and they are still friends, but they disagree, you know, starkly about politics. >> let's take a look at the numbers here. the "roseanne" premier more than 18 million, and the stormy daniels' interview on "60 minutes" 22 million viewers, and so both huge, and what is to say that the two most watched tv moments are still related to trump. >> no doubt that donald trump drive s t drives the conversation nowadays. you just can't get a wai way fr. he likes it. he likes to dominate the headlines and the news and if we start to talk about something