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Murder one, premeditation. but if they thought that he was not justified, they could have went down to second degree, which is the absence of premeditation or even manslaughter. they didnt do that. they hung as to that point. so it leads you to conclude that there were some jurors, we dont know the breakdown, could have been 11-1, 10-2, and well learn that eventually, i hope, if they come and speak to us. but youve got to think that there was some hang-up as to whether or not his fear was ration...

And it creates a mind-set, and the mind-set exists among the jurors that, hey, this guy has got a right to stand and fight, stand and defend himself. its instructed. we hear about it in the press. its very different from other states like new york, for instance, where you dont have that mentality. so you more likely to get a hung jury in florida than you would in new york on this fact pattern. >> so there you go, professor. thats law youre talking about. >> yes. >> and danny self al lose, is thi...

I dont know what agenda they have. >> the case is over. but the judgment continues. while george zimmerman may have won his freedom, he will probably never be truly free. >> i have a lot of people saying that, you know, they guarantee that theyre going to kill me and ill never be a free man. i realize they dont know me. ive learned that. the majority of people when they sit down with me one-on-one are -- or with my family and i, they get a completely different perspective on me. . >> where youre...

>> you were in the courtroom. >> yes. >> for jury deliberations. how does this dunn case affect the fight against stand your ground? >> well, the point is regardless of the outcome, it was always a feeling that we must change this law and we all must go to tallahassee and change it there. because even when you talk about the jury deliberation, part of it was in the instructions to the jury. stand your ground is a part of the instruction. whether it was discussed or not. it was in the zimmerman c...

Trial saying its a very confusing to the jury. so why do we have something on the books like that? and how do we sit there and allow this jury who the judge says may be confused. he had already read it one time. make a decision when you have a young man that lost his life. >> well, thats exactly it, reverend. shame on the state of florida. the law is confusing in every criminal case to begin with. and all lawyers, whether they be prosecutors or defense attorneys are well aware of this. but when ...

Convictions on the other kids but not for davis? >> the jury had a decision to make here and obviously didnt make a decision on the first degree. the issue becomes why not. if you look at the actual case itself, they certainly could have, that is the jury, have concluded that justification could have been probable as to jordan davis. however, you remember there were three volleys of shots here. there was the initial shooting of jordan davis and they couldnt come to terms with that. we dont know ...

The minimum mandatories are and thats 40 years. i think that whether you retry him or not, do you need to? speak to the family. >> a message may need to be sent in that community about whats tolerated and what isnt. >> absolutely. >> and as you all know, the issues go behind the trial. we have to and will take a look at the self-defense laws. and we speak to george zimmerman. hes never spoken about that night. can he answer the big questions about what happened and the issues about that case. >>...

Decision for him. i dont know, mark, if you feel differently about it. but i feel that there is a very high degree of unsophistication. >> mark, jump in there. does it sound plausible to you? you know him better than anybody, that he would not have followed this case? >> ill tell you. he wasnt before, wasnt today and doesnt want to be the poster child for stand your ground, self defense, gun rights or anything else. what happened with the zimmerman case, it was the timing. trust me. if the dunn ...

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The verdict is raising new questions about the defense law in florida. lets break it down. we have senior legal analyst mark omeara, and former federal prosecutor jeffrey tubin and on the how do we fix this side, democratic florida state representative alan williams. hes been calling for the repeal of stand your ground. representative, mr. omara, mr. toobin, great to have all three of you. jeffrey, break down two elements for us. first, somebody on this jury must have thought there was a gun. te...