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In addition to those circulating antibodies which may be dropping off, the memory b cells and t cells are able to give you more durability in your immune response. so you see a different interpretation of when the booster should be given. i think it is closer to the five-month mark. we are looking at six months out from the completed series in the u.s. that is all open to further discovery and further change in the policy. >> dr. purnell, were all looking for signs or clues whether omicron is di...

This building you have got have had the shot. carley: following the new york city mandate. brian: because we are in the city. steve: its company policy. so, now, it -- you know there are curious questions about why hasnt the government changed the language about what does fully vaccinated mean? does it mean you have two shots? does it mean you have two shots and the booster. brian: looks like they lied. double vaccinated. the durability. now the booster shot. now all of a sudden watch they start...

Need to know. what is it? >> oh, victor, there is a lot. its not entirely clear how effective or if its really all that effective, this booster, that moderna is putting out now. the 50 micro gram booster that you can get at pharmacies. it gets complicated. let me lay it out. lets take a look at what moderna said. moderna said when they looked at their current booster, 50 micro grams, thats what you can get going to a pharmacy or whatever. it did boost antibodies, but 100 micro grams boosted anti...

40, and in some places 50%. so, yes, there is this issue of whether or not it is more or less severe. the information were getting from our south african colleagues still suggests that when you look at it totally, the hospitalization-to-case ratio is less than with delta. there seems to be less durability of symptomatology, less requirement for oxygen. but youve got to be careful. that might be due really to the fact that their population has so much experience with prior infections that its mig...

Thats up to public health authorities to decide. now that you have heard all of this, probably confused. whats the bottom line. the bottom line is the booster does increase antibodies. its better than having just two shots. go ahead and get it. its not going to hurt you, and first of all, go ahead and get two shots if you havent already. get vaccinated, and get boosted, if its your time to get boosted. it does increase antibodies, how effective that is, we dont noe know. but its more antibodies ...

The situation is there is no doubt we can say that optimal protection when you deal with an mrna is with three doses. there is no doubt about that. both for the durability of the protection and as well as the protection against the omicron variant. so there is little doubt about that among those of us who work in this field. >> we are seeing, though, an organization like the nfl basically move forward to now require that third shot. the thing is many companies, private companies as well as feder...

And your bibles. so weve ever only reached 60% of the u.s. population fully vaccinated. and, you know, as great as this accomplishment is scientifically, the vaccines are only as good as those that get into peoples arms. of course, and now the new numbers are weve lost 150,000 unvaccinated americans since june 1, despite the widespread availability of vaccines. and i dont even know what you call it. its not misinformation or disinformation, its the -- its a form of mass self-immolation. its this...

Similarity between the moderna and the pfizer product. >> is there any idea what the durability of those boosters are, how long before we need to come back for another? >> we would hope that a third shot boost of an mrna would not only increase the height of the response, the breadth of the response, but were hoping that we will increase the durability of response and there is reason to believe that that might happen, because when you do a boost, you really increase what we call the affinity mat...

A need for additional boosts as we get into spring 2022, that needs to be evaluated. we do believe it will vary you well protected through the winther into the march season when we have the ability to provide 4 billion doses that can be either continued of the current or a supply of an omicron variant vaccine. we see experiments testing various variants that there is some plausibility to consider the vaccine. we just want to be certain about the durability and the strength of the current vaccina...

Youd like to see the definition change if this is just what the data is showing us? >> you know, kate, for me as a public health person, i just say get your third shot. forget about what the definition is. i just want to see people be optimally protected. thats what im concerned about. for me thats unequivocally and unquestionably getting a third shot boost. >> you mentioned that pfizer -- you said that the government is also working with moderna on continuing to still produce a variant-specific...