meat on the st. louis ribs we use our seven dust seasoning just a combination of different brown and white sugar front and back. >> what's in seven dust. >> it's brown sugar white pepper, black pepper cumin, chili powder get right in there. simple at home and people overthink it and you know sometime what is we'll do here you go. >> you have that. put a little bit of lick wick smoke in there and what we'll do is wrap it up. tight in tinfoil -- all sides. and then put in the oven two and a half hours at 350 and then pull it out and it is ready to go. one of the things that is it simple as that and one of the things that -- you can make at home so here's a sample of those ribs and this is a dry rub so people love it this different opinions like some like a wet rub and south