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But whether or not the security situation on the ground changes that dynamic, it remains to be seen because president biden is biggest fear was a threat like this, happening outside of the airport while there are still thousands of u.s. troops at that airport. >> and an attack like this, wounding u.s. service members which the pentagon is confirming to cnn that this attack has. gist into cnn, the first photographs of the scene following this bombing here. please take a moment here because i do w...

Service members, the situation going on there. so im both heartbroken and angry at the same time. by the way, you are hearing more and more about isis k. it is not a new dynamic in afghanistan. theyve been building up there for over three years waiting for a moment like this. waiting for a president like joe biden to create a chaotic situation like what he has to strike and we saw whats happened over the last couple of hours. well see a lot more of that to come in the days ahead. >> harris: cong...

This is an attack of a much smaller scale but certainly it is impactful, will change lives of a number of american families and could alter sort of the dynamic on the ground there. these are complicated issues. what the president has been clear about is he did not believe it was in the long term national interest of the united states to be with a military presence in afghanistan. now the question is do you strike back in some targeted way. we know there are cia assets, special operators in the r...

You are not seriously suggesting that the white house presses the pause button this close to the deadline? heck yes, i am. i guess the question is for all of our political leaders, what is the mission? is the mission just to complete our surrender and withdrawal? or is it to get our citizens out and the afghans who are at the highest and most grave risk because they assisted us and were engaged in trying to build a better future for their country? if it is the latter, we better do a hell of a lo...

Right? so if the mission is to get people out, our military can do that. we have the capability to do it. i think the question youre alluding to and it is the right one, do we have the will to do it? i know you have written a really brutal assessment of the political dynamic. the decision that had been made. i will come back to that in a moment or two but in terms of what is happening at the airport currently in these hours after the attack, let me just ask if you have questions on that because,...

The taliban control the country right now. the issue is nobody really controls the country. they had a breeding ground for these kinds of actions and people to come back and take road. thats what brought us 9/11 and weve got the same dynamic. >> right now none of those groups at least according to u.s. intel think that those groups have the capability of attacking the united states at least as of right now. what do you say to the average american whose first response to the 12 service members be...

Administration was proud of the ramp up of evacuations being done safely, the president noting no one had died, and then today, the concern about the threat being there, urging americans to leave, and events that unfolded where there are clearly lots of injuries, at least three americans included in the injury tally. dont know how much further that will go, and the worst news could come. now we are back to the situation where the president has a different dynamic. does he need additional force p...

Clan destine missions? and it is really going to change the dynamic on the ground and we are going to take charge and do we need to do to extract people and if you continue to attack us, there is going to be severe retaliation. >> john: former vice president mike pences international security advisor. you have tremendous experience in fighting arena. when you look at how isis-k or some other terrorist group or maybe even the taliban have upped the antehere, what should the response be? >> like e...