i m comfortable that on that trip, he reached out to members of the insurgency in dagestan. he also tells the times tamerlan met with a militant by the name of mohammed nadal, correct? based on what we ve seen so far, that is what s been reported, martin. if this is true, then this is a real important piece of information that both the fbi through the legal office in moscow working with the fsb, the russian domestic security service, they ll be able to paint a picture here and understand the facts because nadal probably or most certainly was under u surveillance by the fsb and most likely, they had electronic surveillance on him, so if that was the case, if tsarnaev met with him, there should be information and records on that and if that information is available and provided to the bureau, then that can really help us better understand what he did while he was in dagestan. the assumption up to this point, if there wasn t radicalization
group of demonstrators assembled outside in protest. we re joined now by michael isakoff and by roger cressey, terrorism analyst for nbc news. mike, i understand you have some information for us on the issue of the visas, the student visas that these young men secured access to the u.s. on. exactly, martin. it s more evidence of what members of congress say is bureaucratic bungling by homeland security firms here. it turns out that homeland security is now acknowledging that one of those two students actually entered the country in january on an expired visa. he wasn t eligible to enter the u.s. at all. he had been a student at u mass dartmouth campus, but had been dismissed from the school apparently because of failure to
going on, if it had started at the least, there was tactics and training support he got there. that period is so critical to us for us to understand why the bombings happen and if the fsb has this information, it could be really valuable to us. thank you. and a note, that was in fact the booking photo of catherine russell, who was arrested in 2007 on shoplifting charges at an old navy store. coming up, could job numbers ignite a rally in the market? but first, a broken record does tend to skip. stay with us. it s a very unusual move. the state department investigating its own report, trying to figure out who bungled the benghazi investigation and why key witnesses were never talked to. what s up with that? what s up with that what s up with that
attend class, so his student visa was no longer valid. it turns out that the branch of homeland security was aware of this, had information about it, but didn t share that information with the customs and border patrol folks who do the inspections at the airport, so while the information was in the system, it wasn t with the relevant people that could have prevented him from entering the country. but mike, just to be clear, could this student not have entered simply as a visitor without reference to that student visa as many do from russia? he could have applied for a different visa, but he would have to go through another process. the fact is, the visa he entered was not valid and he could have been prevented from entering the country. members of congress are asking why did that happen. why wasn t the information shared. now, look, would any of this have changed anything relating
to the bombing? probably not. we ve said from the beginning none of these three students had prior knowledge of the bombing, but they are now facing some pretty serious charges about the events relating to that night, removing the backpack and the laptop computer from the apartment after the photos were released by the fbi. so, again, this is just one more aspect that s going to be re-examined and investigate d b congress at in the math of this attack. roger, when you reflect on this e mernling information, that these individuals were actually not even planning to attack the boston marathon, but had planned something for the fourth of july and then changed their proposal because they made these bombs earlier than expected, it paints a picture that these guys are not really the most kind of really brilliant criminal minds, are they? no, not by a long shot. again, all we have is dzhokhar s statement to go on, but if what