I think i just saw a comment or a message from russia to, to nato that, you know, if you put in long range was weapons, you have crossed a red line. And the russians dont make idle threats. What maxime in this basically the same to you because the way its frame, this is russia and ukraine, but it seems, i mean, and zalinski said already in the last few days on seeing that the without american support, he can continue his effort here. And then you have western media sources gleefully saying, yeah, well, the americans and nato, they were all behind the great offensive in konica. I mean, this is, its not internationalized, its nato eyes, and its putting russia against nato. And in the, in the conflict like this, theres no when, when is they like to say that ones going to lose here . This is what i agree with larry, this is getting very scary. Go ahead. Maxine, well, the thing here is, is not just demands a certain reconfiguration of military apperson, the russian side, which i think will
The russians dont make idle threats. Maxime, in this basically the same to you because a, the way its framed, this is russia and ukraine. But it seems, i mean, in zalinski has said already in the last few days unseen. And that the without american support, he can continue his effort here. And then you have western media sources gleefully saying, yeah, well, the americans and nato, they were all behind the great defensive in konica. I mean, this is, its not international eyes, its nato eyes, and its putting russia against nato in the an account like like this. Theres no win win as they like to say that ones going to lose here. This is what i agree with larry. This is getting very scary. Go ahead. Maxine, well, the thing here is that its not just a demands of a kind of a certain reconfiguration of military efforts on the russian side, which i think will happen in the short term. It also means if neither was on all its force and weight behind ukraine. And its clearly the potentials of nat
When is they to say that ones going to lose here . This is what i agree with larry, this is getting very scary. Go ahead. Maxine, well, the thing here is that its not just demands it kind of the certain reconfiguration of military apperson, the russian side, which i think will happen. And in the short term, it also means that if need to is going all its force and weight behind ukraine. And its clearly the potentials of natal and russia are asked symmetric. And, you know, in this kind of conventional warfare, russia is likely lose, which is not accepted by moscow that demands really reconfiguring the approach to the warfare and trying to advance to other domains including non military domains. With seen, russia have use these tools as well, but it also mans on the part of russia to expect more pain on nato countries, including on there, you know, public support for this, you know, support for free. And also there, you know, you can on standing in the military standing. So it indeed gets
Ah cross sucking natos war on russia. Im joined by my guest garland nixon in washington. Hes a political analyst in tampa. We have larry johnson. He is managing partner for burg associates and a former c i, a analyst and u. S. Department of state counterterrorism official. And here in moscow we have maxime switch off. He is the director of the institute of International Studies at Moscow State Institute of international relations. I gentleman cross our girls in effect, that means you can jump any time you want. And i always appreciate. Lets go to larry 1st in tampa. Much has been made about this. So counter offensive or on cargo of not much was gain not much was lost at the end of the day, but its good media fodder. Good for the propaganda narrative. What is not mentioned in the narrative is that during the summer the Ukrainian Army was destroyed. Now we have a nato army with ukrainian foot soldiers and mercenaries, but this is natos war against russia. Agree or disagree with that . Go
My cranium soldiers. And when they go through that, these guys are saying, look, were, were getting out gun. Were been losing 5 of us every one russian. Thats the stein or one ukrainian from the don bass. And we dont, we send out 5 shells and were getting hit with a 100. So that is enabled by the nato nato was making that happen. And i think it, it is. Its becoming a very dangerous situation. Because i, i think i just saw a comment or a message from russia to, to nato that, you know, if you put in long range what weapons you have crossed to red line. And the, the russians dont make idle threats. Maxime in this basically the same question to you because a, the way its frame, this is russia and ukraine, but them, it seems, i mean, in zalinski said already in the last few days unseen. And that the, without american support, he can continue his effort here. And then you have western media sources gleefully saying, yeah, well, the americans and nato, they were all behind the great offensive