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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:56:00

believed would undo the florida man. when he changed from i was in louisiana on tuesday to i was in louisiana on wednesday, that was a mammoth sea change that the jury i felt would never buy. it was the big lie. he has lied to you again and again and again. in his closing, the prosecutor theorized for jury just why edward ates had gone to such lengths to kill paul duncsak. it was for his daughter stacey whose life had been in free fall ever since her divorce from the victim. she really has nowhere to go. her father, the protector, wants her back and wants those grandchildren in florida. and so long as paul duncsak is alive, that will not be. and i think in part, ed ates viewed this matter as he just needed killing. look at ed. you look at him. all wrong replied the defense.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:58:00

the computer searches, the sister s testimony, the mystery trip to new jersey. he knew the comings and goings of paul, so he was in the house waiting. as soon as he came in the door and moved a few feet into the hallway, the door opened and ed shot him. but what you really sunk ed ates for these jurors was his decision to testify directly. it all snapped together. i was certainly in shock that he took the stand, and then all of a sudden, when the change of the story of when he actually got there. he changed his story as well? just the changing of the story, we went from tuesday to wednesday to thursday. the wiretaps. i think that all certainly played into it. you are guilty. later in court, the victim s brother john duncsak vented his fury at the man who took his brother s life and robbed his children of their father. the defendant s decision to take the life of a human being

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:25:00

yes. the detectives were also digging into phone records and they came up with a plot. cell phones used by ed and his wife had been registering hits at cell towers just blocks from the victim s new jersey home, only a week or so before the murder. the investigators also learned the florida couple had rented a vehicle in nearby pennsylvania in the same time frame. what was going on the with the ates and this trip north? they were essentially surveilling paul s house. eventually the investigators and prosecutors were convinced they had enough. in june of 2007, almost a year after the death of paul duncsak, they traveled to florida to the form of the ates family. tell me about the arrest. it s morning, isn t it? yes, i was coming out of my motor home. my wife was already out. i was starting across. my little grandson, the 5-year-old, was running to meet me, and a sheriff s car come racing up the driveway. they slapped handcuffs on me and my wife, and it was downhill

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:04:00

the first thing out of her mouth was, i m going to marry paul, and she said something about he s the best lover i ve ever had. but then her people weren t all that thrilled with the young hot shot pharmaceutical exec either. stacey s father ed. what did you think about him? i thought he was arrogant unreasonably. obnoxious, but i wasn t marrying him. so both families bit their tongues and crossed their fingers as two walked down the aisle in may 1999 after meeting only months before. the wedding was lavish and held aboard a yacht in new york harbor. she got pregnant, i believe, right at the honeymoon purposely to pretty much lock paul down. that would have been fine, except that paul suddenly found himself saddled with another much hungrier mouth to feed. stacey s father, ed ates, a retired military man was asking his new son-in-law to invest in

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:43:00

driven by a woman that the children saw there for over an hour and they never found it. i don t know if they looked for it. but it certainly had nothing to do with ed ates. was that a red herring to you or interesting to you? it was very interesting. that probably was the murderer. driven by a woman and yet, every woman ed ates knows was accounted for. in other words, he says, paul duncsak was likely killed by an unknown intruder, maybe a robber caught in the act who then fled without taking anything. the lawyer says the testimony of the victim s fiancee supports the theory. she recounted on the stand that paul said something like, oh, no, into his cell phone just before the line went dead. he never identified ed ates. paul didn t know the killer. if you re facing someone killing you and you have that cell phone, wouldn t you say the person s name? if you are looking at someone

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