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They had whatever physical evidence there was which was probably very, very little at best. the point is, they heard testimony. they had witnesses. so at this point, to believe him based on the fact that youve got all of this time thats passed with a grand jury looking at the fact and making these conclusions. they are very specific, ed. the first page of it talks about witness testimony where he performed oral sex on victim number one. the next page talks about witness testimony, witness testim...

>> well, i could say that, you know, i have done some of those things. i have horsed around with kids. i have showered after workouts. i have hugged them and i have touched their leg. without intent of sexual contact. >> the entire interview can be seen on "rock center" with brian williams tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific and 9:00 p.m. central. lets bring back mike papantonio. mike, is jerry sandusky hurting himself by doing an interview like this? >> its the only thing he can do. hes n...

Ethics charge. you know, its just -- if this is the best -- if this is now the best they can do against mitt romney, thats pathetic. >> e.j., what do you think? >> i think republicans, themselves, arent happy with this field. i mean, romney keeps surviving because relative to all these other guys, hes competent and knows what he thinks. he may change his mind about it fairly often, but he knows what he wants to say in a debate. and thats why the conventional wisdom is eventually people will have...

>> intent comes up, ed, when there is a questionable issue. when it is a close call. theres to close call when you have eyewitnesss saying there was oral sex taking place or he was fondling the child. that intent issue comes up with theres a close call with evidence thats not clear. again, like costas focused on, this grand jury statement of facts is compelling. its almost difficult to read, ed. its so compelling. because of the fact -- >> is jerry sandusky trying to win over the crowd, so to sp...

Called his daddy and talked to joe paterno. what we are going to see, ed, we will see fine spins to all of this. as you see the fine spin what you are seeing is something that will be presented in a defense. >> mike, lets talk about the judge. does the judge, in your opinion, have a conflict of interest? and have you ever seen anything like this? such a close association. we are talking about political fund-raiser, someone who has worked for the charity. obviously she must know sandusky. whats y...

Obviously she must know sandusky. whats your take on this? have you ever seen anything like this? >> it is not even a close call, ed. she had the duty to rekuz herself. urn the law there is a concept that says if there is even the appearance of the judge doing something wrong, the appearance of impro pryty she has a duty to say there are a half dozen other judges that can hear this. let me bring them in here and be the trier of fact. >> what do you make of the fact he is free and unmonitored on ...

>> they can -- look, they can have a uniform act, ed, that protects children. the uniform act says that under no circumstances can you let a guy like this out. the federal government has the right to come up with some uniform rules and its time they do that. as a matter of fact, its a shame pennsylvania didnt have some uniform rules like that. some states do. >> mike, good to have you with us tonight. mike papantonio. attorney, and also host of the "ring of fire" radio show. the fallout from pen...

Ethics charge. you know, its just -- if this is the best -- if this is now the best they can do against mitt romney, thats pathetic. >> e.j., what do you think? >> i think republicans, themselves, arent happy with this field. i mean, romney keeps surviving because relative to all these other guys, hes competent and knows what he thinks. he may change his mind about it fairly often, but he knows what he wants to say in a debate. and thats why the conventional wisdom is eventually people will have...

Himself by doing an interview like this? >> its the only thing he can do. hes not going to take the stand, anyway, ed, when it comes down to it, so he has nothing to lose. looking at 400 years. costas was smart going back to the essence of where this all started and thats the grand jury report. this isnt speculation, ed. these are grand jurors who heard testimony. they had whatever physical evidence there was which was probably very, very little at best. the point is, they heard testimony. they ...

>> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> the ed show is next. tlok the ed show from new york. breaking news, jerry sandusky is talking and defending himself. the disgraced former penn state football coach granted his first interview to bob costas. the full interview airs tonight on nbcs rock center. we will play you a portion of the interview shortly. this is "the ed show" lets get to work. >> how did it all start? >> basically because im a frustrated play ground director, i guess. >...