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Hard. you guys all stayed on substance and that was a huge loss that i think is going to impact media for years to come. decades to come. >> no question. listen, what i was trying to say to folks is were running for president of the united states, there are huge issues to discuss and not to get into a back and forth, it wasnt an interview, it was a debate they were supposed to be mod rating. ask a question, let us give an answer thats fair and have the discretion to follow-up if they wanted to b...