Of ministry and the last 16 to 20 ive gotten at this particular store called sagrata. So i wanted to invite the owners of the store that ive gone to in oakland for all these years and its a privilege and a blessing to have the guests and the owners here this morning, and thats mary and carloobusby. Tell us. Why sagrata, the name, the history, its your 20th 20th anniversary next year. This year is 20 years, yeah. We began the story in what was a little horse stable at the turn of the century for the telegraph avenue street cars. These were the car barns and so sagrata was born in a stable, and the neighborhood that were in is the word for the sacred ceremonial sweat lodge, and so the land that were on is sacred ground so it makes sense that our store or someplace that honors the tradition of the sacred is in our neighborhood. The word sagrada is the spanish word for sacred and our theme is the sacred and we celebrate the sacred in many traditions. I see. Its been 20 years coming up this