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That a deeply held believe that everybody almost everybody uses different kinds of tricks and manipulation studio and you kind of subvert the house and take expression of political will and based on lies democracy is i do it in certain the way they are relying on laws and regulations to ensure that its self interest authoritarian nations maybe doing that and more in crew there are ways but ultimately i think the conclusion of your book is that everybody doesnt. No really i mean i dont think that...

Instrument its into all of many places its s. Dave i think totally wrong about that tell me a little bit more because i dont really see why democracy would be a stick of the west so tell me a little bit more about where that perception comes from well he your book is not very flattering to you after it terry ends but i think you ultimately confirmed that deeply have believed that everybody almost everybody uses different kinds of tricks and manipulation studio and you kind of center in the house...

Whatsoever they seem to be reasonably stable countries that are stuck in between these 2 extremes so. It would be i think we should expect countries like russia to look roughly the same intensity in 20 years time and its going to take quite a lot to shift russia even to a complete or a terran state that doesnt hold elections rule or to a much more Democratic State where we could genuinely talk about some of the tweets and losing power i was writing of aides to the soviet union and i remember ver...

Next federal and state officials take part in voting ins security. We also hear from the head of security and cybersecurity agency. Its part of the billington cybersecurity form. Well good morning. And welcome to this most Important Panel called election cybersecurity safeguards during the pandemic. It is a great pleasure to introduce to you, this worldclass moderator and panel. Let me first introduce our moderator john de symone is the president of Cybersecurity Services at raytheon intelligenc...

And manipulation studio and you kind of subvert the house and take expression of political will and based on his democracies i do it in certain the way they are relying on laws and regulations to ensure that self interest authoritarian regimes may be doing that and more in crew there are ways but ultimately i think the conclusion of your book is that everybody doesnt. No really i mean i dont think thats the conclusion theres a lot of countries that arent in the book which dont really do it or at...

President of Cybersecurity Services at raytheon intelligence in space where he oversees the strategy and operations for global team of over 6000 employees. His teams are responsible for delivering cybersecurity solutions, Global Training and logistics. And Product Support services in support of Critical Missions for government agencies, businesses. including serving as serving as the chairs commission from 2018. Serving as the colorado secretary of state cio 2007 after eight years of deputy cio ...

Space with overseas the strategy and operations foror global team with over 6000 employees. His teams are responsible for delivering cybersecurity solutions, Global Training and logistics, and productg support services in support of Critical Missions for government agencies, businesses and nations. Within is chris, the Vice President of System Security and the chief Information Security officer at election systems and software, the largest provider of Election Technology in the u. S. He is here ...

Pandemic. It is a great pleasure to introduce to you, this worldclass moderator and panel. Let me first introduce our moderator, john is a Vice President of Cybersecurity Services at raytheon intelligence in space where he oversees the strategy and operations for global team of over 6000 employees. His teams are responsible for delivering cybersecurity solutions, Global Training and logistics. And Product Support services in support of Critical Missions for government agencies, businesses. inclu...

A realisation and deeply how the leave that for the west democracy is not a value its not the goal its not something that they lead by its actually an instrument its in to all of many places and its as theyve i think totally wrong about that. Tell me a little bit more because i dont really see why democracy would be a stick of the west so tell me a little bit more about where that perception comes from well he your book is not very flattering to you after it terry ends but i think youre ultimate...

A permanent and deliberate handicap. Absolute academic concert as i have to say the kind of is that is the option that some less let me in between those 2 extremes i think you know we go back to the seventys or eightys if we were talking then about exactly this question these countries going through growing pains and i think by the time weve got 2020 we need to recognize that countries that are stuck in this kind of middle ground between terrorism on the one hand and democracy in the other they ...