on this sunday night, pure evil has another american is executed by isis terrorists, the president condemns the killing. and the top military officials say the battle against isis will take years. without warning, gas leaks from a texas chemical plant killing four workers and leaving a cloud over a major metropolitan area. kids at risk. the new warning about the popular energy drinks and what can happen if young children consume them. and call of the wild. using the latest technology to keep people and bears a safe distance apart.
this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. >> good evening. another american has been brutally murdered by isis thugs. the awful news of the beheading of aid worker peter kassig came in a graphic isis video released earlier today. we won't show you even a frame on this broadcast, but we can tell you like all of the others, it demonstrates the sheer lethalness of the group. this is over a year after he was taken prison. tonight from the president on down, there are expressions of condemnation and from his family, the hope their son will be remembered for the good he was trying to do. richard engel reports tonight from turkey. richard? >> reporter: good evening, lester. unfortunately this very graphic 16 minute video has been authenticated, making-the fifth western hostage executed by isis since august, and the third american. peter kassig made it his life's
work to help others but paid for that selflessness with his own life. today the president called it an act of pure evil by a terrorist group that the world rightly associated with inhumanity. the army ranger from indiana traveling to iraq last year to volunteer as a medic. while delivering supplies, isis stopped him at a check point and kidnapped. he changed his name to abdul rahman, and his cell mates were taken one by one to be murdered. he knew his time would come. his father read a letter from his son. >> don't worry, dad, if i go down, i won't be thinking anything that i know it be true, that you and mom love me more than the moon and the stars.
>> kassig shared an audio recording of him before he was taken captive. >> i was able to share a little bit of hope and comfort for people. >> in a statement today the family asked for privacy and for the media not to show its murder, to deny the group what it wants, to terrorize. >> they've been forced to go out there and make appeals to isis leaders to free their lover lov ones. all of these have fallen on deaf ears. >> isis has proven time and time again its brutality. now this war shows no sign of ending soon. >> unlike other isis put out of hostages, this did not end with a threat to kill another host e hostage.
they are just splim running out of -- simply running out of hostages left to kill. this latest act of terrorism finds the president and leading officials are considering this. >> in a statement from the air force one the president said isis is bent on death and destruction. but the question for the strategy to defeat isis is working. >> in australia today, before learning of kassig's death, president obama said there are circumstances where the u.s. might need to send ground troops to fight isis. offering this doom's day scenario. >> if we discover that isil has gotten possession of a nuclear weapon and we had to run an operation to get it out of their hands, then, yes, i would order it. >> the remarks appear to show a slight change from his position two months ago. >> i will not commit you and the
rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> reporter: in washington last week, top u.s. general martin dempsey said he was open to using american ground troops to support iraqi security forces. >> i'm not predicting at this point that i would recommend that those forces in mosul but we'll consider it. >> dempsey said the tide is starting to turn in the battle against isil but acknowledged it will take years. the air strike is not a top force, but instead a bunch of midget running around with radical ideology. >> i think the american people feel it would be a serious mistake to make a commitment of land troops into the theaters. >> but the president's critics say it shouldn't be off the table. >> i think the president is wrong is saying that under no circumstances will he consider ground troops.
>> this month the president authorized doubling the number of troops in iraq to 3000, assigned to train and advise iraqi and kurdish forces. 900 airstrikes have slowed isis. >> airstrikes alone are not enough. you neat people on the ground -- need people on the ground to hold the campaign. >> and the people on the ground say the militia have infiltrated the iraqi military and proving how difficult it would be to depend on the iraqi army to fight isis. >> thank you. the area around houston, texas is back to normal after a chemical leak left four dead and released a cloud of gas. >> reporter: tonight a investigation no a deadly chemical leak is under way. it happened on saturday at this
dupont plant in la porte. two brothers were killed and the father writing on facebook, my sons were hard-working men and they lost their lives trying to help others. they will be missed but never forgotten. >> the whole neighborhood is so sad. we found out yesterday we lost someone we loved. >> a fifth worker was rushed to the hospital. the chemical is methyl mercaptan and has a strong rotten egg smell. it spread across the houston, metropolitan area, some 40 miles away. >> we thought something died in the house and started to burn candles, but it didn't go away. >> the company insists there was never a danger. >> there was never a hazard to our neighbors, but there was a strong odor and we deeply apologize for that. >> previously the u.s. chemical safety board found four
accidents at dupont facilities, including fatal ones in belle, west virginia and one in new york. >> one accident like this are one too much and that is why there are strict regulations on the books regulating methyl mercaptan and other chemicals used at this plant. are the regulations strict enough, were they enforced? how did the company respond to the regulation. >> they now have a team in texas to answer those questions and find out what went wrong. gabe guiterrez. the latest doctor arriving with ebola is in extremely critical. he may be the sickest person yet to be treated here. our report tonight from hallie jackson. >> reporter: medical workers carefully moved dr. martin salia
in a pod when he landed in omaha. the surgeon too sick to walk. >> he is seriously ill. more ill than any of the patients that have been transported from western africa to the united states. >> he was diagnosed with the ebola virus in sierra leone on monday. he was working in a hospital in free town. his son said he saw his father a month ago in maryland before he returned to west africa to help treat ebola patients. >> he decided to work there because he found out that was his true calling, he is a hero to me. >> today his wife appears to visit him. they hope to use drugs to treat the patient. he is the third patient to be treated at the bio containment unit and the fifth so far, including thomas eric dungeon. the ebola outbreak, the worst in history, has killed more than
5,000 people worldwide and nearly all of them in west africa. he explained why he needed to be there. >> he told me he needed to do it and i knew that deep within myself that the people in freetown needed help. >> the doctor who cared for so many, now the patient fighting for his life. hallie jackson, nbc news. with prayers and protests today, people in ferguson, missouri, marked 100 days since the police killing of an unarmed teen-ager who was black as the city is on eighth -- as the city is waiting for the return of the grand jury on the indictment. >> despite the frigid weather, they marked 100 days since michael brown was shot and killed. briefly blocking streets, some peacefully laying on the ground,
mimicking his death. >> it has been a long time now. haven't you made your point? >> no. the point won't be made until the cop is indicted. >> reporter: emotions are raw with a grand jury decision expected any day on whether officer darren wilson about be charged. surveillance video has been showing wilson in a police station two hours after the shooting and revealed police radio calls from that day, officers tracking a robbery suspect. >> 25, it's a black while with a white t-shirt. >> officers ask if he needs help. >> later wilson reports his location. >> 21, put me on canfield with two. >> according to the dispatch, that is wilson after he stopped michael brown and a friend. some 90 seconds later brown was dead, reports the local newspaper, based on interviews. another officer calls for help. >> get us several more units over here. there is going to be a problem.
>> we all have to work together more than ever now to make sure our community stays hole. >> reporter: the state highway patrol captain is visiting schools asking students to avoid trouble and promising police will be less confrontational when the grand jury reacts. >> what can we expect? >> i think they'll be a softer approach. >> and the protesters made their point. something people are hoping for when the grand jury indictment comes. this severe dose of winter weather returns with record cold temperatures and a lot of snow in the forecast. a real taste in kansas city, missouri, where mike seidel took this video of a frozen mountain. for more on what we can expect, let's turn to his weather channel colleague kim cunningham. >> good evening, lester. we are watching the front push east and bring snowfall. over two dozen states under
winter weather advisories right now. and also this is a big weather-maker as well. and this stationary boundary producing severe weather tonight in parts of louisiana. now this is the amount of snow we'll see through the ohio valley, 5-8 inches, including in cincinnati. expect travel problems tomorrow. but once the second front comes in, we'll see over 100 record lows. tuesday morning, look at this map for the ohio valley. we are talking 13 degrees and ft. wayne. this doesn't end. we see it across the east coast. record lows from the south all the way into new york city. get ready, another arctic blast is on the way. >> and that frozen mountain looked like a frozen fountain. when we return, keeping the popular energy drinks away from young children. new caution being urged tonight. and later, keeping the bears new caution being urged tonight. >[ male announcer ] we all think about life insurance.
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finally tonight 4 million people pay a visit to yosemite national park in california each year but for some the call of the wild can lead to frighteningen counters as the bears in the parks search for food. and that led scientists with a new approach to keep the bears away from the visitors. here is joe fryer. >> these days a visit to yosemite national park comes with a warning. >> a bear had gotten on to two of the cars and there were footprints on the cars so they were around the campsite. >> this shows what can happen when park visitors leave food in their cars. such encounters have plunged in the last 18 years, but this year there is a lit uptick. some blame the drought for the supply of the hundreds of bears that call yosemite a home. now the park has a new tool to
learn about their movements and find food. >> this is the american black bear we're tracking. >> wildlife biologists put sophisticated gps tracking collars on nine bears. >> see if we can locate the animal and get it out of the developed area. >> when night falls they find this 8-year-old male. >> we are about 50 yards from a bunch of people sleeping. >> the bear is clearly agitated. eventually the biologists back off. after some time passes -- they use gps to find him in a different spot and scare him. >> get out of there. >> once again, the bear takes shelter in a tree. this time he's farther from the campsite so the team feels comfortable letting him be. the next day gps tracking shows the bear had moved deeper into the wilderness. park rangers say the technology
is helping. >> gps collars have enabled us to better handle the bear situation, to help us achieve our ultimate goal which is keeping yosemite bears wild. >> for campers it is extra comfort so they can be close to nature, just not too close. joe fryer, nbc news, yosemite national park. that is "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. up next, football night in america followed by the patriots versus the colts. i'm lester holt reporting from new york, for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
second, the second, to study evidence actually exist? today the top democrat on the house intelligence committee says he doesn't think so. >> i don't expect we'll see any evidence of this either. i agree with timecard. one of two possibilities here. the president quite deliberately for some reason made up this charge are perhaps more disturbing the president really believes this. reporter: the charges former president barack obama ordered the wiretapping of trump tower during the election. the former president has led the charge. so as the current fbi director reportedly asked the justice department to publicly reject the president's claims. congressman schiff plans to ask about it directly when he testifies before the full committee later this month. republicans have also been very critical of president trump on this issue. just today, john mccain said thursday road need for congress
to investigate these wiretapping allegations. here is why. >> i've no reason to believe the charge is true, but i also believe the president of the united states could clear this up in a minute. polyester do is pick up the photographs have been a minute. call the cia, director of intelligence because they certainly should know whether the former president of the united states was wiretapping towers. >> the president has asked the congress to look at that which is interesting because the president could himself asked that question. >> senator mccain for president tribe can either retract his claim or provide proof to both congress and the public to back up that claim. we'll see what president trapped inside especially with the very first deadline set for tomorrow. leland: kristen fisher along with john roberts watching.
>> just over halfway through his first hundred days the president trump faces opposition on a key legislative item from the repealing of replacing obamacare. administration defending the plan on political talk shows today of signaling president trump open to improvement. garrett county here with the latest. >> they are seen another side of the president as this plays out. the businessman fiona curd cheese. the two sides in this case or the republican leadership in congress and conservative members of the house for dukakis who criticize the gop plan for replacing obamacare is not going far enough. face the nation, kentucky senator man paul or his republican leadership doesn't listen to their concerts and won't enough votes to pass. >> if we can do with proper ride, he will not have the votes and we have to get to that point before true negotiations began.
right now everybody's been nice to everybody because they want us to vote for this. >> paul ryan tried to downplay those concerns are that ultimately he believed the bill will make it through. >> when you're a governing party get a consensus among your wide big tent party, everybody doesn't get what they want. but we are getting much better policy here. we made a promise to the people who elected us we would repeal and replace the flawed and said this we replace it with the now we keep our word. >> president chavez put his full sample of approval of the plan but also indicated he's open to any ideas or suggestions to improve it. they've indicated plenty of suggestions on how to improve the bill improve the ability ahead to the white house on tuesday for a night of pizza and bowling with the president. >> a long road ahead of us. more to come. thank you so much.
>> someone who might have a few suggestions of his own. the great state of california and also the state's former insurance commissioner. nice to see you, congressman. >> good to be with you. >> how do you feel getting the stronger for the white house and house leadership on this one? >> they are certainly played an insider game trying to round up votes for their own idea how to improve health care in the united states. the president said clearly he would repeal and replace them see that everybody would have coverage of the affordable. that's absolutely not the case with what is presently going on in washington d.c. >> fair to say that's too light for the price of blood in the sense that everyone will be covered in cheaper? >> absolutely true. you will pay more for less. there's a huge, very serious tax cut, perhaps $700 billion tax cut over the next 10 years goes
to the super wealthy and upper 20% of america's income. it's certainly not going to be better for the average american. they will pay more, get less. >> and try to square the circle. this into the administration is certainly tom price, one of your former colleagues in the house, arguably one of the big experts when it comes to health care said this. >> will be worse off financially. >> i firmly believe nobody will be worse off financially in the process they were going through understanding what choices they can collect the coverage they want. >> that's a pretty bold statement. no one will be worse off financially. he might hearken back to the promise we heard if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. >> this is a promise not going to be kept. it wasn't kept radiophonic
ministration because the nature of health care and insurance is such that the insurance companies change the.yours. in this case we are looking at something -- don't take my word for it. take the arp. it it very clear that those people 50 and older will get hammered by the proposal. first of all, the range of prices available for a 20-year-old 25-year-old is one to five. presently it's one to three. you can charge three times more under the current law and charge five times more for a 50 to 65-year-old. that is hampering somebody. those people of that area and simultaneously the credit for the tax credits available for people in that age group are significantly less than they are under the affordable care act to obamacare. trump care is a real downer, a real decline for people of
different age groups. if you take a look at the medicaid program, postcode of seniors in nursing homes, often in very significant health care issues. they will see a significant reduction. >> unappreciative if you've been so candid and really to hear dire warnings for people of their own party about something and leadership of their party is championing. certainly warnings like this about something the white house is championing in the same party. i'm interested. air force one would make a lot of noise if it comes to dq comes to did yuba city in your district. are you worried about president trump st. lauren, one of the guys who came out against this. i will back somebody primarily. >> let it happen. i represented the entire state of california for 12 years as the insurance commissioner lieutenant governor. the people in my district want
to know what is happening at the bottom line. the truth of the matter is trump care is worse than obamacare in many ways. i know people in my district don't want to see super wealthy getting a huge tax cut. 400 families in america receive a $700 billion reduction in their tax care. the top 1% with a 57%. >> of all the content or 15 seconds left. i talked to your colleague yesterday. chairwoman of the budget committee said we've got the votes. i'm willing to stick their neck out and say this is going to happen. we've heard similar guarantees for the vice president about others. is this thing really going to fail? >> well, it may or may not pass, but if it does and will be a failure for the american public. a very serious decline in
available services and the cost of health care to individuals will significantly increase. we will see mental health or drug abuse programs eliminated or significantly reduced in trump care. it is bad news. republicans are determined to pass it. i suspect we'll see in the next election a real kick back for the american public say you promise commuted the liver but to give us a sham. lauren: leland: blunt is always good wish you safe travels. second california for an extra couple days. >> that would be a terrible tragedy to stay here in good weather. good to see you. laura. lauren: what to expect this week is the health care continues. you want to bring in our guest on sat. political editor at national journal, welcome to you. harsh words there we just heard on this. you write your latest article at
essential to understand the divided the republican party to get a grip on what's happening in the battle. a lot of pressure on republicans who are against it. i want us all to take a look at the ads run in, now targeted congressman to their own districts. watch. be that the itself correct versus obamacare. about a careful job discerning mandates. do plan to liquidate them. obamacare puts bureaucrats in control. republican plan puts patients a doctor's insurance. obamacare puts families for storage of transferring premiums. >> repeal and replace obamacare. >> congressman rocard yesterday. this is running in his district. this is a good way to put pressure on. what do you make of it? >> these are the most conservative members of the
house. at over only overwhelming shares, but also ran ahead of most of these republican members. you would likely see trump put the full-court press on a lot of conservative members. the odds are the legislation will pass to the house. paul ray does he can lose the freedom caucus the only be the third to get the legislation through. he can lose some or most of the members of august i do agree. >> will try to file a blog. implications for 2018 at the gop votes for the bill. listen to what senator tom cotton later. >> i would say to my friend for the house of representatives but to my serve, to not walk the plank and vote for a bill that cannot pass the senate and have to face consequences of the vote. if they vote for this bill, they will put it at risk next year.
>> was your reaction to that? >> the house majority is at risk. the reality is it's a lot tougher to pass it to the senate because mitch mcconnell could only lose to republican votes. in the senate you have conservative members like grandpa, ted cruz, blakely say they don't know if they can support the legislation. rob portman, lisa murkowski who also want the bill to be more moderate than medicaid fits the bill would phase out could mitch mcconnell has a herculean task. you can lose the right or middle that will make it a lot more challenging. leland: how much effort at political capital latrobe put it? we're looking at what he treated so far this weekend. >> this is the $64,000 question. donald trump loves to use twitter. he hasn't done it a lot so far
as we try to push paul writes legislation. will he do campaigns and rallies next week? will he do more of that? will he uses twitter account to challenge members of congress who does support legislation. he's got political capital to spend. how aggressively will he push the legislation? >> is their hesitation? >> bipeds with another who push grandpa to support it. the fact that trump himself to the gulf, had vice president goes aside he's still trying to figure out how much political capital to spread. leland: we also take a look at paul ryan and how he's doing. people talking about the presentation he gave this week. his speakership has been challenged along the way. so what happened to this topic have the votes on it or what if it does and he gets the votes in an enclosed, then what? >> they have more to lose than president trump.
that's how he gets the legislation flu. to make up his majority, they cut the margin republicans currently have. paul rankin cap intraparty fight. he can't try to appease the right in a leading or moderate members his coat pockets. the people attacked her sticks are largely supportive, but if it gets messy they could find some political vulnerabilities as well. >> you could attend her party's rudyard d.c. when people say around the water cooler? >> the odds are the legislation goes through the house. the senate is just very difficult. the odds are tougher. lauren: thank you for being here today. appreciate your move. back to you. leland: media meltdown. my dismissal of the federal prosecutor and dozens of others appointed by president obama is
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these will combine forces becoming a nor'easter moving their way up the east coast in seeing a lot of snow dropping. currently so that the portions of minnesota and iowa and that is all tracking this direction. watch it come together and work its way up the coast. pay attention to your stance there. this is going to be something of late a date into early tuesday morning when the snow really starts to fall. anywhere from a foot to two feet, very weak the condition of close to 50 miles an hour. a quick look at snowfall totals. you start to see purples as much as two feet of snow, if it is so for a really big system elected monday night into tuesday morning. we will be watching this one very closely. lauren: you are safe at the back inside. it was so nice recently.
the 60s felt like we were getting there. >> i know. i wanted it to happen. >> thank you for the update. leland: 46 federal prosecutors looking for jobs after the administration cleaned out obama appointees. if they beat average bear or evidence of real bias. president trump wanted to abide in the wiretapping claim. our political panel with what adobe flex. >> the president has said he is called upon the house and senate intelligence committees to add this piece of investigation about russia. they've agreed to do that. mmm. these are good. nice work, phillips'! try phillips' fiber good gummies!
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prosecutor. someone just this past november says he was asked his day at the job by a president elect trump. rob schmidt joins us live from new york with the latest on this would. >> yeah, as someone saw that continues today. this is being blown way out of proportion. some one with another attorney foster john. berber triggerman standard operating procedures. preet bharara had to be fired to matter more complex was to be viewed at trump tower in late november after the election when mr. trump asked them to stay out under his administration. preet bharara has been successful in other parts of the southern district of new york. taken on corruption cases against politicians who said they were attachable. democrats alleging mortgages removal of their just entered politics. three watchdog groups asked
subtwo to investigate possible conflicts of interest in this new role as president. this word a comic and leisure companies, ranking member of the house oversight committee tried to insinuate a connection between that and the trump team later that week asking for resignation. >> i'm curious as to why that is and certainly a lot of questions coming up as to whether mr. trump is concert about the jurisdiction of the u.s. attorney and whether that might affect his future. >> the jurisdiction also a trump tower is located. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren treated out bill donald trump talk about a corruption of of government that wants a bunch of prosecutors who want to investigate him. this morning on cnn, senator
john mccain defended the president. >> elections have consequences. so people to complain about it. worried two presidencies and i think the president has every right to ask for resignations. >> the obama administration did this. no real update, just retaining the update politics as usual. >> i heard newt gingrich collate all the way back to abraham lincoln. the u.s. attorney received the go under his watch. thank you so much for that remark. >> a little more on this in the media outrage. let's bring in our political panel, head of research and actually republican strategist at goldman state consultant. good sunday to you.
as the media outrage over this a little rich to dissent that there wasn't a lot of outraged bitter cold or asked for the resignation of bush appointees back in 2009? >> it's a no-brainer. political appointees, no different than a ceo commented that one of different answer to you. i think it's getting blown out of proportion. >> i would assume you agree president trump believes has the right to ask for the resignation of these folks. >> absolutely. the way he went about it is a bit odd. i don't think for presidents that were the u.s. attorney to stay on and then sat actually you should be out in five minutes with basically no warning. took a pretty fired tweedy he refused to resign and had to be fired. it is standard practice in this way. preet bharara had a strong
reputation with republicans and democrats as an independent prosecutor. the reporter had read before this. this is where it made sense he would get to stay on this was that the president's right to do it. the timing is a little strange and trump tower within his district as the antitank site russian money-laundering and is obviously gone after wall street types. >> does this open up the administration and democrats are making somehow this was a political move to specifically take out this prosecutor who are uncomfortable for the administration. >> it gives the democrats more of that conspiracy theory are outlandish. he's an executive pair one of the things he would have a problem with this political appointees started to feel a title. it used to be honorable. but there is the due administration cap he stepped
down and asked to resign. the entitlement has gone way too far and is by all means within his rights education and to the the right thing and step down. obviously no one is refuting on either side of the aisle. why do you think of november he said he wanted subtwo to say? >> though it has the right to change their mind. [inaudible] >> i think that's absolutely within the jurisdiction. the entitlement that these employees have has gone too far. >> there's probably a lot we don't know we don't know it turns that interaction with the justice department and the new attorney general. we did find this is perhaps a rich bit of history for this which was a letter for janet
reno then attorney general under president clinton in 1993 today and u.s. attorney jeff sessions. now the attorney general asking him to resign once president clinton took office. mr. sessions was president h.w. bush appointees. moving on to the other big story, coming into my day is what kristin fisher talked about at the beginning of the show. the house intelligence committee sending a letter to the white house for the chairman of the making of her say put up or shut up when it comes to the wiretapping accusations by the president. what is the next move for the white house? did they say we don't have anything or make the committee cited on a road? >> i think this is a brilliant move by president trump and the administration. for so long we've heard about russia as i have pointed out we will start talking about wiretapping. number two, probably happy.
the obama administration at "the associated press" and fox news reporter so we know that wiretapping is already at issue and basic definition happens all the time. if this intelligence community on notice. they'll have to start investigating the intelligence community and they really gave them a lot of power in this position. >> lacerated i don't know how u.k. power by potentially line about something that's serious. >> i don't see why fly when obama has proven to do it time and again. >> you are saying right now president obama wiretapped the president without any evidence you've seen. he had an executive order that basically gave the intelligence community american citizens without personal information paperback did and that in itself
is a wiretapping. leland: will leave it there and see what comes from the executive branch and in answer to the letter tomorrow. jesse, ashley, have a great rest of the day. quick programming note. a lot more politics to come after the show, more politics with this man, jim jordan, republican of ohio. cohasset things to say about his own party's health care bill. 2:00 p.m. eastern right here on fox. >> several government agencies could be on president trump's chopping block as he prepares his budget. they could face the deepest cuts. it is a time of year. going green beach showing off some irish pride. how one city is prepared for a major st. patrick's day celebration. unlike ordinary diapers, pampers stay up to three times drier,
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just as the treasury department began to exert extraordinary measures to regulate government that. donald trump putting finishing touches on proposed budget which includes a lot of cuts and a lot of spending increases. therefore little in dirt, columnist at the hill. good to see you. how much of this budget that we will see late this week, early next is the art of the deal. as president trump putting out what it ought to have been not necessarily what he'll settle for. >> i think that's quite characteristic of what presidents do here. this is really the opening bid to use your analogy. i don't think the president expects everything seems asking for here partly because some of
the things are quite unpalatable. >> .only two democrats in terms of major cuts to social programs but a lot of the programs they talk about cutting our think that trump voters in appalachia take advantage of, be it food stamps, free and reduced lunches for kids. how is that going to play baby that appear to come about paducah. >> that's a great question that goes to the fact that this is strictly different from the republican base as is often perceived. a lot of lower-income americans have people who are dependent on some form of the government systems. >> 40% of americans have some form of government. you have to imagine a percentage of those. >> the key point to reduce the size of government in the abstracted telecoms to take this away from you.
>> except tablet helps me. it's interesting how the president is getting a face. republicans want to go after a title that programs. medicaid, medicare, go after other sort of major big ticket items. you have a president essentially saying i'm going to make all these cuts would save money only looking at about 30% of the budget. only so many $500 toilet seats you can order. >> medicare and social security make up an enormous part of the budget. you put all those three together here at about 60%, 70% of the budget. take out a military spending to increase. >> you are talking about cuts made to a quarter of the overall pie. if you're trying to get all the cuts for the quarter, obviously you have to cut more deeply that the discretionary that you might
otherwise. leland: how does this play into the debate on health care? this is going to pass. this is our number one priority. we are going to keep our promise. at the same time, they will have this budget they hated out, but they are already putting up for democrats and some republicans to take shots of that. >> they expect to use use the health care proposal and that could be very dangerous for republicans. both of these issues play into the fact there are fiscal in the republican party had quite uncomfortable. >> we heard that on fox news. more of the interview later. do you get the sense from the white house versus the day of average oz. >> one of the interesting
things. they would negotiate out things, that will be phased out. somewhat a contrast to speak or write his telegraph eat flexibility. >> we heard back from the head of the club for growth yesterday stated that what the president were pleasantly surprised by the idea of let's make a deal. i'm willing to compromise. we will see what happens on the budget. good talking to us always. thanks, niall. lauren: general jack keane is here to talk about president trump promised to back that i says in his decision to send more troops into syria. >> urc in a comprehensive approach to engaging syria, but the total defeat and elevation of isis. it's good to be in, good hands.
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>> actually considerably more than that. what actually has taken place here, we've been involved for two and a half years. in those two and a half years, we have made 12 incremental troop increases to her participation in iraq and syria. this is all going back to the fact that we never had a campaign plan to defeat isis. the joint chiefs, he spoke to of them two days ago. they've been working for two months of the campaign plan for the first time that deals comprehensively with defeat isis that iraq is area, but also undermining finances and their committees and 30 plus countries. this is the first time they've done it. who we are just seeing the initial installments. >> what about the proposal of 1000 american soldiers to kuwait to serve in a reserve force.
>> the enablers as they were good fighting forces in iraq helping the iraqis fight with fighting forces in syria. the special operations forces and apache helicopters. we also know artillery at the ground how much troops could be on the ground hasn't been revealed yet. we will see what that baby or may not be. the president is right it doesn't have to tell us what's going on right now. if he's going to put a significant amount of increase american soldiers at risk to have to come forward and talk to the american people. >> many compare the military strategy to what we thought it does so. how similar is the situation? is there a similar situation going on? >> there are similarities. classic urban fighting. the ground troops go through in those old we talk about blog a
blog, building by building that is layered with ieds, by its coveted traps. very tough, very good indeed. du shields to protect them from their prior -- air power. iraq is syria much to say. >> i want to ask you about this i did a trump's proposed budget and will make a difference with the right amount. would you think about funding for this? >> his initial proposal is inadequate. we need round numbers with $100 billion a year for four years to get us out of this incredible hole. the previous administration in terms of readiness of forces coming capabilities we truly be. they say that the united states army is at high risk to win a conventional war. no one has ever said that in 40 years. >> i wonder what you get total
calls, would calls, when we hear calls, when we hear the news that people call you, we call you if they help us understand, how do you tell the american people. how do you explain serious this is beyond what you can comprehend what you see the videos and pics that most of us don't even see outside. >> it comes to prepurchase. trading of preparedness to fight. 50% to 75% of the aircraft we fly are not ready to fly. that depends which service to talk about. but the combat brigades the united states army has come to 15 combat brigades to the lie chair beside it. only three could go to work today. those are credible numbers. they should be headlines. if such a serious problem. the other thing is we have fallen behind technology wise. the gap has closed on us. lauren: very interesting. thank you for your new piercing a good talking to you.
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and economy r they right? hi, everybody, i'm david asman, let's focus with mr. steve forbes, elizabeth, sabrina and bruce jackson, steve, spend more? >> dave, unfortunately we will have to spend more and a lot more under barack obama the budget declined, a couple of hundred billion dollars, trump is increasing it but not nearly enough, we need more ships, we need more equipment and we need to maintain what we have which we haven't done in recent years, we also need radical reform of procurement system which wastes $25 billion a year. a lot has to be done. >> john, look at the percent of gdp that we spend in military hardware, it has come way down. we had the peace dividend during the clinton years after the end of the soviet union, that's when the big dip happened and we built up after 9/11 and it's come down again. >> coming down from a very high level. even now we spend more on the military annually than the next
seven largest spending countries combined. david: they're not spending a lot, john. >> i would add in this case, that our military from 1945 from the north koreans and a ruler that have none at all in the first place. david: military hardware of the united states is terribly out of date and some of it just can't work. we have 50% of all our b-1 bombers can't fly. we have 70% of u.s. marine corps fighter jets can't fly, we have all these accidents happening with the marine ospri, with e need to fix this stuff. >> i agree with you, we need to get military spending back up to 4%. you look historically, david, our country has been the safest and we've gotten into fewer conflicts when military spending was higher than lower,
at all, that's a problem. >> that's astonishing those findings, we need to give the men and women the best they need to do the job that we have asked them to do. i agree with you, david, i agree with steve and mike, it's going to be difficult to get to even 3% of gdp on defense spending the way this congress has been. i think that defense spending, correct me if i'm wrong, down. mattis going to silicon valley, that's the way to spend smart. i do think there's a lot of fat marble through the defense and you can't compare countries to countries because purchasing power, they could have better technology versus what's going on, our technology with our defense department. >> it is true, bruce, that like any bureaucracy the pentagon spends on wasteful programs, we know the stories. again, we have to do something
to get it up to date. >> well, i think it all depends on what is the price tag on the cost of fire and fury and locked and loaded. i don't know that the president has revealed that yet but president obama in 2014 talked about upgrading the nuclear arsenal and outside experts said that would be a trillion dollars in spending over 30 years and we heard people on the right saying that was too much. that seems like more than enough. >> steve, maybe it's just coincide ens -- coincidence but whenever we stop spending in the military, whenever that number comes down, somebody takes advantage of us. when you have a strong arms forces, you do have a tendency to have a more peaceful world, no? >> that's true, david. after the ball of the berlin wall, that is not the case,
unfortunately barack obama let the military slide even more. we have a lot of updating we have to do, procurement we have to do and training of our people has not been done the way it should have been done. >> john, what do you think? >> i see the other coincidence that every time we elevate the leader of irrelevant country they tend to play into our elevation of them and i think we are doing this year. >> history where we have underestimated the damage that a tyrant can do like adolf hitler. >> i don't think that was our war either. if the desire is more spending now, simple answer is this, tell china this is your problem, in turn for you taking care of what is your problem, we will remove troops from south korea that will save a lot of money and file it back in the military. >> i don't know. i believe history with
underestimating the damage that tie reants do. >> steve mentioned after the fall of the berlin wall, same thing happened after world war i. elizabeth touched on something very, very important which is technology. >> thank you. >> i like to see a focus on technology and again, going back to ronald reagan with star wars and brilliant defense system, a lot of people laughed at that and mocking him at first but we got tremendous number of advancements and key negotiating point with the soviet union. >> bruce, one of our allies, takes advantage, it worked in certain cases, doesn't always work, it's not fail-proof but the fact that it does work it means it saves lives, right? >> certainly technology, that's the thing when we talk about throwing around the gdp percentages, how do we know that that's even the right measure. i mean, if there's -- if we have technology that can, you know,
do cyber-attacks which can be less expensive and save lives why not pursue it? my rule of thumb since regan days if we have enough bombs to blow up the world enough times over, i think that's enough. >> is that simplistic? >> yes, it is, you're not going to love nuclear weapons on cuba and north korea if you can avoid it. by the way, cutting down we cut back sharply after world war ii so much that that's why north korea invaded south korea with soviet union and china and look at what's left us today. david: steve, excuse me, sabrina, we had the peace deal and lucky to buy into that and then we saw obama and bin laden and others take advantage of it. >> agree, part of having strong military is also having strong diplomatic core and that's a lot of areas that we are seeing cuts. recent victory for the trump administration is that they were able to get the united nations 15 to 0 to vote for sanctions
and i think that that's something significant that we are not talking about. i think they go hand in hand. david: we have to leave it at that, gang, great debate. excessive or appropriate, president trump feuding with senate majority leader mcconnell for saying he has, quote, excessive expectations of congress. someone hearsays the health care industry is proving the president has this one right. that's next. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides.
has not received any orders in regards to venezuela and the military is ready if called upon. i'm elizabeth prann, for all your headlines log onto foxnews.com. >> critics are call to go ditch mitch over this. >> part of the reason, i think, that the story line is that we haven't done much is because in part the president and others have set these early timelines about things need to be done by a certain point. now our new president has not been in this line of work before and i think had excessive expectations of how quickly things happen. >> excessive, republicans be
able to replace obamacare in seven years and six months they've had to do it is excessive? that remark is not sitting well with the president and mike, you don't blame it, explain. >> david, i certainly don't. it's ridiculous that the republicans in congress could not replace obamacare with all the time they've had. i totally, totally blame the republicans, we knew the democrats would not be for anything that went further away from single payer. trump is absolutely right. trump is at its best when he takes case directly to the american people which is what he's doing here. these people, these republicans who failed to get obamacare through, they're going to be replaced. david: what do you think, who is right, the president or mcconnell? >> i think -- let me back up. we don't like the nasty blame game, right, it's really nasty what's going on in congress with the president right now. the gop did campaign for seven years and got campaign donations saying repeal and replace, but i have to say, you do not attack your senate quarterback when you
only have a slim majority of 52 in the senate and with john mccain being ill unfortunately and i like what ronald reagan said 11th commandant, thall shall not insult fellow republicans. i don't like them shooting the same tent. republicans need to get a move on in the congress. david: john, you know, this president came in saying he was going to clear the swamps out and like him or not, mcconnell has been in those swamps for a long time and for him to call the president having excessive expectations for some that have been talking about for seven years. >> they would have come with equally silly idea, but what they should have done is have a bill on trump's desk the day he was inaugurated, he would have signed it and been over with, two years to find a new health care bill. i do understand why trump is doing this. he wants to set expectations high. i don't like legislation for
presidents but i can see why he's doing what he's doing. >> steve, it wasn't just president trump who was talking with excessive expectations, mitch mcconnell himself, we are going to get it done by now. >> the house representatives did pass a health care bill, they are going to pass tax bill in september, they are acting more like fake senators instead of real senators. come on, guys, why are you taking a five-week vacation. >> you look at polls concerns the number one concern, they should get to it. >> i think john is correct, crazy, insane that republicans didn't have their act together and weren't ready to go on day one, that being said, i'm slightly sympathetic to mcconnell.
this is a man who was able to hold supreme court nomination process for an entire year, i think -- he does sort of understand how this process works and that's where the president sometimes needs to pick up on that. >> of course, remember how he did it, he switched from super majority to a plain majority. that was a good effort but shouldn't he put in more of an effort with regard to obamacare? for example, we have 6.5 million people that we know had to pay a fine in 2016 for pulling out of health care. november 1, that's when we have enrollment for obamacare again, we may have millions of people having to pay fines again. >> it's not going to happen. i think trump must be quite -- >> hold on a second, you think they are going to fix it before november? >> i don't think they are going to fix it before november. trump has to realize that he should be quite envious of the
party loyalty that predecessor had eight years ago and now attacking people that used to be loyal to him, i think the problems are going to get worse. >> a nasty shotgun marriage. half of all foreclosures in the country, people faced medical costs, they are facing bankruptcy from it. that's the important fact. >> another 10% increase in premiums next year. >> john tammy said and rightly so, obamacare will belly up any, imploding, the problem that trump is facing is not that mcconnell is not a good tactician, he's an excellent tactician, the problem is the republican party by in large has shifted from ronald reagan's day where the majority was liberty and freedom towards a big government party. >> the one thing that ronald reagan did that was different, he claimed to come in and clean the swamp but did so with smile
on the face and without nasty rhetoric. do you think trump needs to do that? >> i think you will see him do that specially in tax issue which he does care about, the administration is involved working with republicans and so it's very different on what happened in health care. >> very good. the bottom of the hour, trish, what do you have? >> hi, there, david, john kelly telling white house staffers to put country first and stop the leaks. why someone hearsays we won't be able to stop north korea if they don't stop those leaks. plus, chicago suing the justice department as the white house threatens to withhold some of its funding along with other cities protecting illegal immigrants committing crimes, we are asking who is right, i will see you at 11:30. >> up here first not just deals with north korea coming back to haunt us, some say there's also costly lesson to what happened to american diplomats in cuba. that's coming up next hi.
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is to get more open to it, show the cubans how we americans live, how cuban americans live, that's the way to regime. >> you think back when president obama went to cuba and shook hands with recall castro, high hopes but they haven't come to pass, have they? >> no they've not. the regime is oppressive as usual. when you spend money to cuba, it doesn't go to workers, it goes to cuban government, they get worthless pesos. it's a bad deal and recall castro taken full advantage of it. we get nothing except injured diplomats. >> keep it open or close it down? >> we have to keep it. that are tasting freedom, the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak, and the more we expose government with corruption and violence, the better. >> looks like they are attacking our diplomats. >> steve is right, i think the state department should put travel adviserry, when you go to havana, your dollars help pay
for recall's torture chambers. >> bruce, truth in advertising maybe keep it open, folks, look, these guys are real tough cookies? >> well, i suppose you could do that, we could return to the days of cuba when -- [laughter] >> the god father cus pretty good back then. >> go ahead. >> no, exactly. >> the russians have embassy down there, it could be a multiple things. >> you're a big free market guy, would the free market cure this ill or not? >> you can't do business with the commu people doing cuba, i'm not going back there until the family moves back. [laughter] >> i see you smiling. >> that's ridiculous, stay open to them. our way will ultimate win, cuba is going down. >> steve, again, you are also a
big free market, the opening worked with a place like china, why won't it work with cuba? >> because china wanted on opening, china wanted to become part of economy, castro does not, he wants a close society, get what he can from the rest of the world and keep repressive regime. there's no freedom in cuba. come on, guys. >> names they say will calm your nerves in the never-racing times, that's next e. that's cool. i got a new helmet. we know steve. switching to allstate is worth it.
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clearance was a meeting that he took at trump tower during the transition where he hosted the head of another russian bank. jared kushner met with the head of a russian bank called veb bank. it's a bank but really just an entity of the russian government. the leadership of veb bank is hand picked by lad peer putin and veb bank's connections with russian intelligence are not subtle. sergei gorkov is a graduate of the fsb academy which means he went to kgb grad school. veb bank was coordination of a spy ring, that was the russian spying investigation where carter page was found by the fbi to have been essentially a willing target for those russian spies. at least he was a source of information for those russian spies who were looking for
americans to give them investigation to help them with their spying efforts against america from their home base in new york where they were ostensibly working for veb bank but really they were spies. so there was the alfa bank servers communicating with the trump organization for some reason. what's that russian bank got to do with anything. then in the transition there's jared kushner meeting with the head of veb bank for some reason. what's that russian bank got to do with it. then not long after trump got inaugurated along comes another inexplicable seemingly random intersection between trump world and another russian bank. the next one we learned about was i think the biggest russian bank of all, a bank called sberbank which announced in march they hired new counsel to represent them in a civil case that was filed in new york. sberbank was accused of rigging the granite mining industry in
rush. in march, sberbank in the middle of the case, they made a lot of eyebrows arch in the legal news when they announced they chosen their new counsel for that long comped expensive case and they said their new counsel was going to be donald trump's personal lawyer, marc kazowitz. ratin right? marc kasowitz heading follow-up trump's legal team on the russian investigation. if you're the lawyer coordinating defense for the u president of the united states facing a criminal investigation from the fib while he's serving as the president of the united states, you would think you are too busy to take on other clients. but if there are people wanting to know what's going on in the russian investigation, it may be
handy to have conversations undercov the cover of attorney-client privilege with the lead laush on twyer on the information. maybe the alfa bank thing was a coincidence. maybe the veb jared kushner meeting was a coincidence. maybe the sberbank thing was a coinciden coincidence. maybe it has nothing to do with donald trump and whether or not he has an illicit relationship financial or otherwises with russia which explains why russia tried to hack or election and rig it in his behalf. maybe none of those bank connections, alfa bank, veb bank, sberbank, maybe none of them have anything to do with the russian involvement to disrupt or election. y
if you want to talk about donald trump, until today the only so spirks banking relationship we've known about him recently isn't with any russian bank, it's with deutsche bank. deutsche bank is the bank that donald trump owes hundreds of millions of dollars to. deutsche bank is the bank that departme dealt with donald trump for years when no other banks would. deutsche bank continued to lend president trump hundreds of millions of dollars for deals even when he was unable to pay them walk on early loans, and he went so far as to file lawsuits against deutsche bank because she failed to pay them back. there are aspects of the donald trump-deutsche bank relationship that have seemed unexplained by the bounds of normal financial business dealings. deutsche bank on the surface appears to have been uncommonly
generous to him and forgiving of him. deutsche bank gave jared kushner several hundred millions of dollars in loans right before the election, loans that jared kushner personally guaranteed which made it all the more unusual that he failed to disclose those loans of dollars. deutsche bank has been plagued by its legal liability for a multimillion dollar russia money laundering scheme. but you know after today, the deutsche bank russian money laundering case will no longer be seen as the connection between donald trump and it comes to the russia investigation. there was alfa bank with the server thing, veb bank with the carter page connection and
sberbank hiring trump's russia lawyer. there's all of these russian banks getting strange new storing roles in american politics. there's another one, alfa bank, veb bank, sbe rrbank and anothe one called vtb bank, sanctioned by the u.s. government as punishment for crimea because this bank is seen as the russian government. it's an arm of the russian government and that's how the u.s. government views them. in fact if you go to vtb's website tonight, click on about vtb and they'll tell you in exact mathematical terms how they're controlled by the russian government. the russian government owns and controls 69% of the vtb bank, the majority shareholder of the vtb bank is the russian government. what that means in plain english
is that putin runs vtb. putin controls the bank and what it does and what it spends on. and today we learn that up until last year, up until the middle of the presidential campaign vtb bank was lined up and committed to provide hundreds of millions of dollars in financing to build trump tower moscow. the russian government was going to do that deal. actually even without the knowledge that the financing for this deal was going to come from the russian government, it's still a heck of a bombshell. this is not some old deal that happened back in the past that people may have forgotten about. this is not something that trump worked on in the '90s and it fell apart. this is what he was working on in the campaign after he announced he was running for president, months into his presidential campaign when hi was full on running for president he was trying do this deal with the russian government in moscow. quoting from carol's story in f
the washington post, trump posted numerous supportive comments about putin on the campaign trail setting himself apart from his republican rivals for the republican nomination. remember when trump warned that if robert mueller wanted to go looking into any of his business dealings that would be crossing a red line because clearly none of those personal financial interests or business dealings had anything to do with russia, that would be crossing a red line? well now we know that his business, the trump organization had everything to do with russia, even during the campaign. and we probably should have seen this coming. back in may we should have seen this coming when donald trump's lawyers started hiring their wnn lawyers. miken cohen has been donald trump's lawyer, his personal lawyer at times, a trump organization executive and lawyer. when trump started flirting with and running for president in the
last election cycle mike. cohen was his top and most of the time his only political adviser. michael cohen is close to trump, he is trump's lawyer and he did hire his own lawyer this spring. and he confirmed that the attorneys investigating the russia affair asked him to give testimony and hand over documents. michael cohen's response was no, i won't. the committee subpoenaed him to testify and hand over documents. he's due to testify next week but apparently today he handed over document to the house intelligence committee and some of those documents and a long statement about them found their way to certain reporters and publications upon the handover of these document to congress. and just to reads between the lines a little bit, it does not appear that what happened here is michael cohen handed stuff over to congress and congress leaked it. i'm speak in terms of reading between the lines.
the way that this is phrased and described in the reporting tonight is that michael cohen handed this stuff over to the house intelligence committee and in so doing gave some of it to reporters and a statement about it to reporters. to put the best possible spin on that information himself before investigators themselves consist start chewing on it and putting it u out in their own terms. and in this case the best possible spin is still pretty bad. the bottom line is that while trump was insisting publicly that he had no deals with russia and while he was questioned repeatedly about why he was being so bent over backwards positive about vladimir putin and russia throughout the campaign, he never thought to mention and apparently nobody in the trump organization or the trump campaign thought to mention that during the presidential campaign for five months of the presidential campaign the trump organization
was aggressively over seeing construction. an intent to proceed with the project october twoif. michael cohen spoke with trump three times directly about the project. michael cohen also wrote directory to the kremlin, to vladimir putin's spokesman to ask for direct kremlin help in restarting discussions about the building project which by then he said was stalled. the other trump organization figure involved in these negotiations is someone we've talked about before named felix seder. a russian bonn ex-con convicted of a $40 million mafia connected scheme. in 2015 trump in a sworn deposition professed to not be able to recognize felix seder if he had been sitting in that room that day. it's a little hard to believe
felix seder had been associated with the trump organization for years. carried a trump business card that described himself as senior adviser to donald trump even after trump said he wouldn't recognize him if he were in the room. by 2013 apparently felix seder was recognizable again because he was working with michael cohen to make the trump-moscow thing happen and trump was signing off on the letter of intent to move forward with it. michael cohen i think has to testify to house intel next week. he handed over document to house intel today. his strategy in so doing is to try to spin what he's handed over in the best possible way. it also appears to try to play down the importance of felix seder and his involvement in this project, especially seder's comments in the e-mails that have been handed over to congress now and to some reports in which felix seder brags that there's something about this real estate deal in moscow that in the end will result in donald
trump becoming president of the united states. quote, our boy can become president of the usa and we can engineer it. i will get all of putin's team to buy in on this. i will manage this process. felix seder wrote to in michael cohen. michael, arranged for ivanka to sit in vladimir putin's chair at the kremlin. i know how to play it. we will get this done. michael cohen's strategy in releasing these documents to the press involves him playing down whether or not felix seder really could have been sirius -- serious about that. over the course of my business dealings with fe lakes seder he has sometimes used colorful language and been prone to salesmanship. when the times today went to check out felix seder's both
that he was so connected he was able to arrange for ivanka trump to sit in putin's private chair at his desk in his office at the kremlin. the response from team ivanka was not exactly on brand. ivanka trump told the times she did in fact take a brief tour of red square and the kremlin when she was in moscow with felix seder but insists she was only there as a tourist. i have to say it does not seem that she had a totally typical tourist experience sbauz quote she said it is possible that she sat in mr. putin's chair. but maybe that's just a coincidence or don't all tourist visitor to the kremlin get to sit in putin's chair. alfa bank, veb bank, sberbank
and vtb bank the russian government agreeing to finance to the tune millions of dollars to a project that no one admitted to that was happening prior to the campaign. probably just a coincidence. a lot going on today. lots happening in the news. carol joins us next. stay with us. these days families want to be connected 24/7.
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colluded with or helped the russians conduct that meddling during the election. and three, there are questions about the absolute denials from our new president that he has anything to do with russia. beyond that one beauty pageant he held there. the reason while his dealings with russia and his statements are of investigative interest is because investigators need to figure out in which there's some way in which she's compromised when it comes to russia. what that means is investigators need to figure out if russia holds something over him. do they know something, do they have documentation of something that she's done that he would not like them to reveal to the public. right? that's the essence of being compromised. being in a position where for some secret reason you feel the
need to ingratiate yourself to a foreign power or at least not say no when they come calling. it boils down to this stuff. the trump campaign is alleged to have helped in that effort being investigated. and our now president says he's had nothing to do with russia, nothing. that's why this is a heck of a bombshell. top trump executive organization asked putin aide for help business deal. top exec from trump's real estate company e-mailed putin's personal spokesman during the campaign last year to ask for help. that is submitted today by a trump executive who has been trump's personal lawyer and who served as trump's political adviser for the start of his campaign while he was having trump sign a letter of intent to go forward with trump tower
moscow to be financed by a russia-government run bank. joining us now is carol lenning, reporter for the washington post. thank you for being here. congratulations on the scoop. you broke this story yesterday about the trump organization trying to build a tower in moscow early in the campaign. what you report in this story and what the president said about his dealings with russia seem to me to be very much at odds. do you feel like what you've been able to report really contradict the way the president has characterized his own dealings in russia? >> i don't think it catches him in a horrid absolute lie. what it shows is that he hasn't been forth right about how eager he was, while a presidential candidate, to let his trump organization and his executive vice president pursue a very
potentially lucrative deal in moscow. there are debates about how valuable it would be to him. but i think that there's something bigger behind what we've learned in the story that we broke on sunday night and the news story that we broke this afternoon. i think there's something much bigger in the fabric here and you kind of only learn it as each piece comes. but the bigger thing is while donald trump's sort of third son, michael cohen, a long time friend, ally, not his son by birth but while this person is working, negotiating a deal in moscow to develop and license moscow trump tower, a russi russian-born friend of his is saying, hey, if we make this deal the president can get elected. it's going to make him look like such a great incredible negotiator. and hey, i'm connected in russia and i can get vladimir putin to
start saying nice things about this, you know, kind of distant horse gop hopeful. when we learn in our more recent story that at the same time michael cohen, this long-time ally of donald trump's, is reaching out to extremely high ranking friend of vladimir putin's saying i'd like your help. we're stalled. we would like to get this deal done, nudge nudge wink wink we know how it works in russia. you need to go to putin. and said we'd like your help. so that's a pretty dramatically different thing than what the president has said which is i have zero interest in russia, zero deals, nothing going on there. >> when felix seder connects this deal to trump's chances at becoming president, is it clear why he sees those two things connected? he said, wow, this will make him
look like a great negotiator. i'm not sure i get his argument or the credibility of his argument in terms of why he thought these things were connected. 's very provocative to see somebody saying we're doing this deal and it will result in trump becoming president. we're doing a financial deal and it will result in his winning the election. but i don't get why he was connecting the two ideas. >> it could have been inkred wbl braggadocio commentary or somebody doing something a little different. but remember at this time vladimir putin is pretty angry with the u.s. he views himself on a bit of a revenge mission and he also wants to look like he has some da taunt. it appears that he thinks he can create a nonadversarial relationship with donald trump.
and fe lix seder again, this russian-born broker long connected with donald trump and has introduced him since 2013 to fairly significant russian money men, this guy is saying look, this is good for putin and this is good for you, donald. he's telling this to michael cohen. you will look like you have negotiated with one of america's toughest adversaries. it happens that that would also be beneficial to lod mere putvl. it would look like he had a good relationship with the u.s. >> it is a bizarre reading of how it would have been greeted had that deal gone through. just understanding how the news workings and how people were treating trump. this is such a puzzle but the fabric here is absolutely stunning. and i have a feeling there's a lot -- this feels like the start of a lot of reporting in terms of us getting to understand this part of the campaign.
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houston, texas is basically flat. it's america's fourth largest city with an elevation of 50 feet. houston is in a flat and watery part of the world with the gulf of mexico on one side and bayous running all through the city. since 1960 houston has suffered more deaths an property loss from flooding than any other locality in the country. and the people of houston has developed ways of trying to keep the water from winning. today with this huge, huge storm they tried one of their more desperate measures. there are two big dams on the west side of houston that hold by reservoirs, designed to keep water upstream from houston proper, to keep the water from rushing into the flooded bayous in downtown houston. this is how the reservoirs looked before the storm. after the storm the water had begun rising high enough and
fast enough that officials feared the dams themselves would be overcome. to save the dams to keep holding back the gigantic quantities of water held in those reservoirs, they opened the billways enough to let some of the water out of the reservoirs. in so doing they flooded the neighborhoods in the path of that water that they had to let out then they don't do it gratuitously. they did it in a way to save the dams, save more people. it's a difficult choice that no mayor, no engineer ever wants to have to make. might have been the best choice they had today in houston, though. how do you imagine a ka tas tro fie like this while not only is it under way it is nod ending anytime soon. what is houston's options right now in responding to the continuing flooding. we're going to be joined next by somebody whose job it is to grapple with these exact questions. stay with us. ♪
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then? >> not yet, no. the waters were rising but we weren't flooded. i understand they have to do what they have to do to save houston but that accelerated the process. >> they have to do what they have to do to save houston. this is reporting about a family directed affected by the controlled release. even on day four of this disaster in houston, people who are not flooded yet may yet find they're flooded tomorrow or the next day as the effects of the storm continue to crescendo and as officials make hard decisions. joining us is jim black burn, codirector of the speed center. it was established ten years ago to address severe storms and their impact on the gulf coast area. thank you for joining us toni t tonight. >> thank you. >> today the army corps of
engineers decided to ep up the reservoirs. as far as i understand it's basically a way to save the dam to preserve the integrity of the reservoirs, to save a greater amount of people. the short term result is that some neighborhoods face new or worsened flooding. you've studied these things. what do you make of that decision they made today? >> that decision is based on these dams being evaluated as two of the six most dangerous in the united states by the corps. that's both in terms of risk of failure and the population affected downsteam. we've never seen this much rain before and they made i think the prudent decision, although very difficult decision to go ahead and begin to release water while also filling up the reservoir. but i don't think the reservoirs are intended to be used at full capacity which is a tragedy because we need every ounce of flood control that we've got? >> in terms of the flood control options, what kind of tools do they have at their disposal?
what kind of decisions are they going to be making today, tonight, tomorrow as the storm continues to play out? >> i think we've got some of the most difficult decisions -- i would say these are decisions that frankly we will be facing every coastal city in the future. we've never seen a rain like this. on the other hand, there's a lot of options that houston has never really seriously considered before. we've always approached flooding from the standpoint of quote unquote controlling it. primarily with engineer solutions. and there are aare the of nonstructural alternatives. we're going to have to pull out a whole new bag of approaches that require creativity and that require you know really trying to come up with new and different ways of solving these problems. we cannot solve these problems by thinking the way that we've been thinking. we've got to come up with better, new ideas. >> given not only the size of houston but its critical location, things like the
houston ship channel and the oil refineries there and all of the infrastructure there, some of which can be dangerous to human beings and other forms of life when it is put in danger. given what houston is and what's at risk here, what's been in the way of houston coming up with better decision to deal with flooding? it is striking that a city with that much chemical and oil infrom strauk chur is also the most flooded locality in the united states. >> well i think first of all, it's sometimes difficult to get the officials to really envision the magnitude of storms that we actually are foreseeing. we've foreseen, for example, something that didn't happen in this storm, which would be a hurricane with a large surge, perhaps 20 to 25 feet come in and hitting the houston ship channel. i've had several people tell me that's unrealistic. if we had modelled and presented the scenario that is unfolding, we would have been accused of
coming up with unrealistic future scenarios. one thing is trying to get people to really be open minded about what the risks are. because i think we're really at a time of unprecedented risk with the heat, the gulf of mexico is extremely warm, among the warmest if not the warmest of the oceans of the world and it is a virtual heat pump into a hurricane. and that is a huge source of power for these storms. >> professor blackburn, i read that since 1989 what they call a hundred-year storm, a storm that's only supposed to happen in 100 years, since 1989 that's happened six times in houston. are you saying this isn't just a houston issue, this is a climate change issue in terms of how we anticipate the magnitude of storms and flooding? >> it's the type of things that they've been predingt in the sense that our normal distribution of storms is
changing and will be skewing to more severe events. that's what we're seeing. we've seen two 500-year storms in the last ten years in certain parts of town. and i have no idea what this storm is going to evaluate as but certainly way beyond a hundred-year storm. i think the year hundred-year rainfall is virtually meaningless today. and the faederal emergency management are the ones who come up with this. and i think this affecting everybody in the united states. i think houston has a chance to be a trendsetter if are the country in figuring out how to cope and deal with these kind of new unprecedented storm events. but it's going to take every bit of creativity that we have. >> jim black busch codirector of the speed center at rice university in houston. thank you for helping us understand this. this is very sobering coming from you. >> really appreciate your taking
the time, rachel. all right. we've got more ahead tonight. stay with us.
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months before sheriff arpaio's case even went to trial, the president looked into quashing the arpaio prosecution altogether. quote, asked attorney general jeff sessions whether it would be possible for the government to drop the criminal case against arpaio, but the president was advisesd that woud be inappropriate. a short time later, "the new york times" published its version, reporting that the president brought up the possibility of quashing the arpaio prosecution not just with attorney general jeff sessions but also with the white house counsel. okay. here's my question. if the president asked the a.g. and the white house counsel if they could maybe drop the arpaio prosecution somehow, is that potentially a legal problem for the president? where's the line between, hey, i'm just asking for a friend and obstructing justice? we got some expert advice on that today. former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. you've seen her here on our show numerous times. tonight she tells us that this
could be a separate count of obstruction of justice against the president if the president tried to interfere with the prosecution that's being investigated in terms of the comey firing. conceivably that could be investigated or pursued in this case. she also told us this, quote, if sessions or anybody else explained to trump that it is inappropriate to interfere with a criminal investigation before trump attempted to do so with former fbi director james comey, that could help establish that trump understood that what he was doing in firing james comey was illegal. ah, so in other words, this might get rid of his ignorance defense. if the president was told explicitly that he's really not allowed to interfere in a criminal investigation of joe arpaio, then he was in a position to know explicitly that he shouldn't interfere in the fbi investigation of michael flynn by pressuring james comey about that. so that's what we heard from former federal prosecutor barbara mcquade. we also asked bob bauer today,
he cited the unusual nature of the arpaio pardon coming before sheriff arpaio was even sentences. he told us, quote, should thement ever face paempt on obstruction related grounds, this will color the case against him because it's a pardon that does not meet the standards for granting one in the normal course of events. so, again, asking about the arpaio pardon could be trouble for the president. we also heard from a former top official in the justice department, walter dellinger, who led the office of legal counsel under president clinton. walter dellinger told us, quote, no president should be interfering in a criminal prosecution on behalf of friends or supporters. it fundamentally violates equal justice under law. blunt from walter dellinger. so obviously a pardon is a presidential prerogative, but can a president try to quash a prosecution? is that legal? it turns out it's a good question. so stay tuned on that.
we also have some exclusive new reporting tonight on the dossier of alleged russian dirt on president trump and the ten hours of testimony by a key player in the production of that dossier. we've got that story next. stay with us. my dad's.
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dangerous and it's really the lack of visibility. we can barely see 100 yards in either direction and obviously with the winds blowing at this speed if there is debris flying through the air i don't want to be out in the middle of that and get caught up side the head by some flying branch or anything like that -- >> reporter: hold on one second, ed. stay where you are. stay where you are right now because some of these big trees are surrounding this hotel. i don't know if they're going to make it. they're starting to creep out. look, the palm tree is an extraordinary piece of vegetation. there's no question about it. they're built to bend. there are a lot of trees that aren't that and they're starting to split and fail under the strain on them and we've been watching it and the concern is that these trees are going to go into the structures across and while they may not look physically impressive to you, we're talking about thousands and thousands of pounds and even more of that force if they do
fall into those buildings. some of them have storm shutters, some of them do not. the wind is picked up by a significant, significant factor here from what it was just a little while ago. so we've been watching this to make sure that the way those go is going to make a big difference. we're safe where we are here in terms of what might come on us. it may not look that way, but it is otherwise i wouldn't be here. but these gusts, this is intense what is coming down these corridors right now. and you can see it behind me and chad was right, the picture's tell the story. but where this wind goes and where it takes all this debris, those are the areas that are going to need the most help and so it's important to site it as its happening and we've seen
trying to stay out of the way, out of the way of these gusts while doing the best that we can to just keep an eye on the situation, so that -- once it passes, we know where to go. i don't have to tell you, you've been doing the job as such a high level as such a long time. you serve different functions. one is to be the eyes and ears for the audience on the ground in a situation like this to arrest the sense of curiosity. once the first responders have to kick in and do their job, very often we're telling them where things happened from our own observations. and this is certainly going to size up to one of those situations, because they can't get out right now. they've had to hunker down. ed is down below me. we're a team on this. he's been watching equal intensity from a different perspective down on the ground and ed, let me know when you can come back to me in terms of what you're seeing with the flooding and whether it's making an appreciable difference to these
surrounding buildings by us. this is somewhat of a commercial area where we are now. there are residences as you get into the four, five, six blocks away where we are, as you get closer into the water, there are residences along the water. we don't give a damn about property in a situation like this. we're about protecting life and that's what all the precautions were about. but you've got mega, mega mansions town there. the governor has one. we're talking 10, $15 million homes and they were built close to the water and as beautiful as that is, it's equally as dangerous. remarkable that this tree is standing. i'm watching it split in realtime but it's getting there. ed, what are you seeing down where you are? let me step out of this. >> reporter: i'm going to take a quick little step out -- oh, man. a quick little step out so you can get a sense of just how quickly the water is moving through here on the street. this is the -- the most severe
gusts it's pushing through. you can see the water. we can't even see 50 yards any more to our right. the amount of water that's being pushed along the street and filling up here and we understand one of the higher areas here in downtown naples. the water in other parts of the neighborhoods that we were able to survey this morning and throughout the day yesterday have to be an incredibly dangerous situation. the good news we reported over the last days that many of the people here in naples evacuated this area. we didn't see but a handful of people out and about throughout the day yesterday so that is a good sign because what is left behind as you mentioned, it's just property and the intensity of it and the flooding in this situation -- remember, this part of naples is surrounded by water on all sides, so it's not just the gulf waters that will be of
concern, it's going to be the river to the side to the eastside of town here as well as the canals and the homes through there, all of that water getting pushed up. this is just one little spot as you look down here on the street in downtown naples, just how quickly the water can pull up in various areas so you can imagine in some of the lower lying areas just how horrible the flooding situation is going to be. we continue to look here off to our -- our east to make sure we're well protected here. everything structurally from what i can tell seeps to be holding on. i have never experienced the intensity of this kind of hurricane with the winds cutting down visibility the way it has which makes the situation even that much more disconcerting. it is incredibly intense here as we approach and get close to the eye of this storm, making and
passing over naples here but it is quickly going to turn from a wind and structural story to this flooding story. here comes another gust. whoa. can you see this, dave? >> so now we're getting it in full effect up here. ed it's not -- it's not slowing down any more, so this has to be what chad was talking about where it's just -- it just keeps coming. just keep coming. it just looks like -- it looks like some type of sideways cyclone that's coming down here with these gusts. i'll tell you, ed, me, we're not going to move that easily in a storm. we're both bigger guys and this could easily knock you off your feet. i'll tell you what, it's such an easier task to be here than so many of the people who are with this storm, with this family, with young kids and they're inside and they have to be praying to god that this just leaves them untouched and they
get past and that's the biggest concern. for us right now we're fine. this is very dramatic picture as chad said it and it's accurate picture, it's true. but your heart has to go out to the families. you're watching this coverage, if you're not in florida, if you are in florida, god bless you and we hope that everybody's okay, and you're safe and you have the supplies you need. this will pass. it's going to take longer than usual but it will pass. but if you're watching this from some where else, we'll see what their needs are afterwards, but this -- this is something that they're going to remember for a really long time and hopefully there is a measure i hope of gross inaccuracy of the net
effect of this storm. i hope that it is more drama than it is impact and that the places that have been touched from the caribbean now up into florida and what happens in states north, west and a little bit east of here winds up being less than we expect. but for now that big -- that big part has passed. there's bane a little bit of an alleviation. it's gusting that way now but it's not as sustained as it was. there was about five minutes there where it just wasn't letting up and the good news is, this one big patch of trees that i've been watching here that i was really worried about going into the apartment building across, it hasn't happened. i know chad myers is about to jump in my ear and say don't count your chickens. i understand, but you take good results where you find them in a situation like this and so far
the integrity of these big trees, these 200 foot trees, chad, so far i've been seeing some separation in them, not the palms. you know what i'm talking about, these other old growth trees, they've been splitting, but they haven't failed yet. they haven't collapsed yet and if they can make it through this phase, maybe we'll get lucky here. but i have to tell you, ed, is a pro as you know and he's been in a lot of these. i've been in many but less than he to be sure and you to be sure, but there is something unique about what we're getting hit with right now. maybe you can put some words and science to it for us. >> the only word i have, chris, is eye wall. you are in the northern eye wall. you are going to within the next ten, 15 minutes be inside the
eye. you may be able to look up and see the sky with not a cloud in it and then be waiting for another hour or hour and 20 minutes and get the wind from the other direction and that's many times where a lot of the damage comes from because the trees have already bent one way and then all of a sudden they have to bend the other way as well as arizona well. this is as bad as this storm has been, truly, in america. this is what the people of sugarland, this is what the people of cudjoe key, this is what the people of pig pibig pis morning, this is what they felt, as this storm went straight over the lower keys. it stays off-shore, it gained a little strength but not much and then it made landfall about 30 minutes ago, the eye wall doing 130 miles per hour when it hit marco and i bet you just had 130. nothing to boast about but that storm is still very strong.
not losing any intensity, really, whatsoever. >> reporter: it comes down to duration. tell me this, when does the storm surge component kick in and what do we look for there? >> the storm surge comes in after the center of the eye moves by and the bubble of water moves under the eye itself and pushes on to land. now this is opposite of what we expect when an eye makes landfall on an east coast, this is a west coast, so the west coast now has the no water on the north and the water slam storm surge on the south side of the eye. water's been pulled out of tampa bay, pulled out of port charlotte and all the luck up to the north and in 20 minutes when the eye goes by you, the eye wall, you're going to get eye and then you're going to get the other side that marco island is already getting.
marco getting the storm surge flooding and we are seeing that flash flood emergency for marco island proper. ten to 15 foot surge on top of places that were completely dry. honestly, the ocean bottom was exposed four feet or so, the ocean bottom was exposed. you could see the sand, you could see the fish, you could see the coral and the sponge and now all of a sudden that's going to be covered with ten to 15 feet of water. chris, i am seeing you, can you hear me and can you go? >> reporter: oh, no, i have you. i was just testing out these hurricane specs that you told me not to waste the money on. you were right. so chad, what do we do when that storm surge comes in? what's the best way to help -- what is going to be the list of immediate needs for the people there and, you know, god willing, they can hear us. we're running on battery power here. the hotel's out, all the lights
are out in the surrounding area. in fact, i don't see anything lit up. they had kept the lights on here. i don't see them any more. for people who are there and hopefully hunkered down -- go ahead. >> what happens here on marco and other islands, city islands that are on up the coast, that would have an awful lot of homes on canals and many of those homes are less than three to five feet above the canal on a regular day, now all of a sudden there will be five or ten feet of water on top of their grass and so therefore in their home. and the surge with the push of the water, push of the wind, think of this water moving at 60 or 70 miles per hour being pushed along by winds that are 120 miles per hour, that water will knock things down a lot quicker than the wind will knock things down. water has so much more force.
now, to answer your first question, what do you do? you get eddie and that crew off the street because that's where the water is going to go. you likely will be fine, second, third floor, but get everybody off the street. chris, go ahead if you can hear me. >> reporter: chad, can you still hear me? >> yes, i can. i can see your pictures very well, chris. so just start talking. >> reporter: i can't hear any more. led me go to ed if you can -- if you can hear me, pick up the coverage for me. we just had a huge gust here and it blue out my ife and i don't hear anything so pick it up if you can. >> reporter: no problem, chris. we're down on the street here in downtown naples and to give you the continued since of as this -- the eye of this hurricane gets closer and closer here to naples, i've tucked in behind a wall here to protect us
from the worst of the wind. it's just too much. there's no visibility. if we can get to look down here on the street, the number of palm trees that are just blowing down the street and that's obviously a major concern for us because with such little visibility, you can't stand out here in this, there's no reason too. you can't see anything flying around. as we stand here a little bit more than an hour, we have endurds these kinds of wind, this kind of rain, we're still not quite at the -- at the eye of the storm here which we anticipate will be coming much, much closer and we will continue to monitor that. so it is a situation that is clearly deteriorating and after more than an hour of enduring this you really start to have to ask yourself, we're in downtown naples and the situation here in the buildings and the structures that were surrounded by are strong and from anything that i
can tell from our vantage point, in these times of situations, we'll be honest with everybody, it's limited. we do not have the ability right now to venture out into the city by any means and get a sense of how the rest of the structures are withstanding the storm. we can tell you what we see here around us. there is outdoor concert venue here and it has a soft tarp over it. i've been watching that for the last 35 minutes. i'm amazed that that has not come peeling apart here with these winds that we've seen. i thought for sure that that would start unbuckling as it is tied down here but what is simply stunning is how little visibility. we're down to maybe 100 yards of visibility here which makes this even more treacherous and as we've approached this and endured this for more than the last hour, really makes you wonder in the rest of the area homes that are not as structurally sound as the areas in the buildings that you see
here around me, really makes you wonder, can the homes, can the other buildings around this part of naples and southwest florida, can it continue to withstand this kind of intensity for as long as it has and there's still more to come. there's no question and a concern that we have here. >> reporter: all right, ed. i'll take it from you right now. i was -- i was a little overly optimistic in terms of the worst being through. i was hoping that's what that was before but she's back. and it is a big blow that's coming through here and again as you were seeing down there at ground level -- chad, this is the real deal coming through here, but so far this tree line is holding and stoz important for these surrounding structures, chad in terms of what they can do to things as you know. we know what happens when these big branches blow off with this kind of energy behind them.
we've been seeing it about this way now for about 35 minutes or so. and everywhere around us, it's the same. it's actually looks actually worse in areas that are a little bit west of us here. the trees that were there that i was using as markers before are gone, so chad, what are you seeing on the radar in terms of where we are from that most severe band that went over the island not too long ago? >> you are about four miles from where there is no more rainfall, so therefore the inner part of the eye wall, four miles away. now if we do the math at 12 miles per hour, you're still in this or maybe something slightly less than this for another 20 minutes, so it's that duration thing you talked about, how long are people going to be in this when they're in their homes in the dark. this is a completely different animal in the day light. when you are in your home and
you hear things go bumping and you have no idea, because it's dark and you have no power, and you don't have air-conditioning and you don't have any communication with any of the outside world because the cell towers already gone down, that's when it truly is going to be a very difficult night for the people from sara sota, into tampa because they're going to live with this as will with. maybe less, maybe 115 because, chris, i think you just had 130. >> reporter: all right. whatever it is, it is. but here's what i can tell you, chad, as you know we're all pros. we are in the cover of a hotel. the crew is good. photojournalist is good. i'm good. ed and i are built for this. it's not easy but i'll tell you what, it's a hell of a lot easier for us than it is for people that chad was just talking about. god forbid you're with your family and having to live through something like this, our hearts, our thoughts are with those people. it's a big reason why we do this coverage. we'll be here just as we saw
with harvey. there's going to be need and we know that this community will come together. we saw it before the storm. it sounds trite but it's true. the worst of mother nature brings out the best in human nature and that's going to be needed here in florida in big, big portions and living through this part of it makes those of us who god willing won't be adversely effected by it feel interconnected to those who are going to be effected by it because, ed, from where you are down there right now, this is going to be something where everybody's going to have to count their blessings after this one goes through. where is it where you are right now? how is it down there? >> reporter: hey, chris, seconds after i tossed back to you just moments ago, heard a large crash about 15 yards off to my side, part of the rooftop, these are
the spanish tiles of the rooftop that were on just came crashing down about three stories off the ground, crashed down on the ground around us. this is exactly what landed on the ground around us. as i was mentioning and while we were talking and the fortification and the structural soundness of the buildings that we're in that we felt really good about, not to say it won't endure any kind of damage, but if these shingles and these tiles are coming off the roof, here on these really strong buildings, you can imagine what it must be like in the neighborhoods and the areas surrounding closest to where we are and closest to the wall of the eye of this hurricane. so highly dangerous situation as some of these tiles just flying off the roof, crashing down here on the ground next to us and as we mentioned, we're protected and tucked away an area here and that's why you see on camera that we're not getting blown around as much. we're not going to stand out
there any longer as the wall in the eye of this hurricane approaches closer to where we are, but this is it. just landing on the ground and you can imagine all the other kind of debris that is flying around out there as this storm makes it way toward us, chris. >> reporter: wlrt. we got to make it through this phase and then we have to deal with what chad was explaining earlier as the redistribution of the energy, when the wind comes around the other direction and brings that storm surge, then you get another phase of this. and you also get a different dynamic just in terms of the mechanics of what it does to the surrounding structures and foliage. chad, weigh in on this if i get it wrong, i remember it from you, which is everything's that's been fighting to stay up in one way is now going to get hit at its weakest angle the other way when the energy redistributes and the wind starts coming from another way,
accurate or no? >> accurate. the other thing to talk about is how powerful water is and if you get a surge of ten to 15 feet in that area, homes will be lost. the building itself will be lost whereas a wind event, you can hide from it, you lose shingles, you may lose a sheet of plywood from your roof, but you won't lose your home. if you get hit by this storm surge that's still to come, that's when you lose things. officially, i said 1:30, national weather service out of naples airport just had 1:31, 18 minutes ago. you were in it, 1:31. i hope that's as bad as it gets. you're now beginning to get to a slightly inner core of the storm itself and now slightly less in wind and in 20 minutes it may very well be calm.
>> reporter: from your lips to god ears, when you take a look at the map, where are we in terms of that? is that what you're showing everybody right now? >> yes, naples manner which is about four miles south of you is already in the eye. they're in good shape. golden gate. you're getting hit, honestly. this is one of the neighborhoods that's really getting slammed to your west, probably still 131 for them. naples down to 115 and 110 it is going down from here as we get you closer and closer to the eye now less than probably 15 minutes before you'll see all the palm fronds just fall down to the ground or just limp down to the side of the tree because the wind will go to near zero. >> reporter: so that's what we have coming our way and that's good to know from those who are monitoring it. we know we have a lot of people in florida who are watching this. we're thinking about you. we hope you took the right precautions. we hope that you're still able to follow the coverage. if you see us able to be doing
what we're doing, hopefully, the structure that you're in is going to be just fine and what we've been watching around us as dramatic as it is, hopefully it is not as dangerous as it is dramatic. so far this tree line is holding here and these buildings are still protected that are around us, less so on the other side and you see things blowing around in the air here, a little bit of wizard of oz style, they're fairly small pro-jeck tielgz at this point, not the kinds of things that i've seen do damage in the past. that's a good sign as well but again, there is no cause for false optimism. we'll have to see what happens on the backside of this storm and with the storm surge as chad has been coaching us all along, the wind is dramatic. there's no question about that. there's a danger component to it, but it is water that kills. it's drowning that takes peoples' lives in hurricanes and
storm surge is not just powerful, but lasting. so we're going to have to stee. i keep going back to timing, chad, because especially when you're in it, that's just your natural reaction to it from an endurance standpoint, is how much longer, how much longer and the scary part is, at least from the perspective on the ground, it's how much longer there is? watching john and those correspondents, you know -- it's a long time and things just only have so much tolerance, whether it's a structure or a vehicle or even an infrastructure system of your roadways and your sue wang and i don't mean that just from some planning perspective, i'm saying backup of sewage, homes not being able to have liveable conditions, what they cause has been tabability. that's what all this is about, it's about what all this does to their lifestyle.
your perspective and your take on it so far that you're getting why the governor was so conscientious about saying we're talking about weeks here, talking about commitment from the federal government for weeks and months and in the billions in terms of what they estimated going into this. do you think they're going to wind up being justified in what they thought going into it? >> without a doubt. without a doubt. this storm had the punch when it was over cuba at 160 miles per hour and to the people of northern cuba we are internally grateful what happened to your country is a shame. it was the damage that created the storm to go from 160 to 130. it was a true remarkable reduction in power that our country didn't have to take and as now moving over key largo and into the keys and into collier county, all of a sudden we had a survivalable storm where 160 to
165 in some places with wind speeds there would not have been survivable. you are now getting into a much better place here, chris, you're going to get into the winds dropping off rapidly to 35, 45 miles per hour and that's the good news, but the rest of the story is that we're going from here to pelican bay to bonita springs heading up the coast with the same event that you just had there. i have a question for you, if you can hear me, i know the winds going down a little bit. i don't know if you had a chance to do any ground truth but the road that we see below you, how many feet is that above sea level? >> reporter: all right. chad, water's coming up the street here. i don't know if you can see it, dave show it to them. this just like is coming out of nowhere. all of a sudden this street is flooded. do you see it.
>> absolutely. >> reporter: you think this is just flooding and the sewer system letting go. >> no, i believe that this is the bubble of water that you're about to see as the storm surge makes it's way into marco island and naples, godldengate. >> reporter: this came out of nowhere, chad. >> yes, it is. yes it did. >> reporter: literally we have a 1 1/2 of standing water here in literally no time flat. my producer just told me to turn around. i just turn around. we see the crane again and i turned back around and literally we're surrounded by water here and i don't mean that -- it's not dangerous but it's a lot of water really fast and what does this mean -- obviously it's deeper as you get closer, right? >> sure. it'll be deeper as you get closer to the gulf of mexico. there's a little barrier there from the gulf of mexico spilling over to naples into marco island
but that barrier's going to be easily breached and that water will be right there. i was just curious as to how many feet up sea level that road was. i'm not able to do that right now standing here at the weather board. i'm thinking not ten feet above sea level, not more than that. >> reporter: give me a little sense of timing, again. i apologize, but again i just feel like so much of it is about duration and tolerance. what are we looking at? as this eye goes by, give me my next time component so that the people who are in parts north get a sense of proportion in terms of, you know, what kinds of waves they can look for? >> take a look at the palm trees and the palm fronds barely now moving, slowing down and in the eye itself the skies will begin to lighten and brighten and then all of a sudden the bubble of water that has been following along with this storm all the way through the caribbean, we saw pictures that if you didn't
they are amazing in the bahamas where the water was gone from the islands and people were saying, i've never seen this before, how did this ever happen, where did the water go? the water went with the hurricane. it did have that bubble of water, the surge water that's going to come in now and if you think a fresh water flood is bad, a saltwater flood is even worse for homes and businesses and the people that have to clean up after that saltwater flood and that's what's on its way. the surge flood, a flash flood emergency is still in effect for collier county. that means flash flooding is going to occur or is occurring and it will be life-threatening. that's where we are now. i don't know because the sfloe speed of the storm only 12-miles-per-hour how quickly that water will be five or ten or 15 feet high but it will be less than a half hour, chris, i think. >> reporter: all right. and that's good to hear because i'm just trying to weigh
different factors. the main considerations, the windows that we're looking at is when can the first responders get out. they're going to need winds that die down and not just during the eye, right, because they're all sophisticated enough to know what you're telling us right now. it just makes me wonder if we're seeing this here, what is the situation for the people if they're still in homes as we get down there towards where that surge is much closer to that ten to 15 feet that you were talking about. control room, do we have ed down there? i wonder what the water is looking like on the ground for him. do we have him? ed? >> reporter: i'm here, chris, can you hear me we're adjusting the camera here. the winds have settled down a little bit so that gives us a little bit of opportunity to adjust and give a better perspective. that was an unreal hour and a half i suspect of intensity that we've seen here downtown streets
of naples. the winds have died down enough where we can show you what we experienced here. look -- that's to be expected. those tree limbs there. this is part of the -- this is part of the tile that came flying off the roof of the building that we're in there and now we've gotten a little bit better view and you can really start to see a little bit of, you know, the tree damage is to be expected. as soon as all of this passes through and now it's starting to kick up again. we had a break there to give you a better perspective. but that's what we're facing there. obviously the tree damage is going to be unbelievably extensive through naples. that's to be expected. the damage to the rest of the infrastructure we're not in a position to really gauge here at this point. we're just in the process of trying to withstand and endure what this hurricane is bringing here to southwest florida.
now the visibility is back which is stunning because now we can see several more hundred yards through the trees here that we've been providing you the live picture from and you can see the flood -- the floodwaters and the amount of water that is collected and pocketed up in various parts of the street, that's going to be even worse on the backside of this storm as the storm surge starts coming in from the gulf side and what you've seen there, along that main street that you're on is extensive as well and that's going to be even worse in some of the more lower lying areas. the area we're in we picked it was set up a little bit higher here in the city but in those parts where it's much more lower lying as soon as we can get to those hours in the ahead, we'll be able to report more extensively and give people a better picture of what is occurred here but the intensity of that is just unreal and it is unbelievable to describe what we have endured here for nearly two
hours, chris? >> reporter: they're telling us that this is the eye is passing over. it doesn't feel like, chad. i thought the eye was supposed to be like this piece of calm where you look up and you see the sky or whatever it is. we're still getting hit here. i want dave to sneak out if he can now that it's not as nasty, i want to show them the storm surge and, ed, just get in my ear real quick, how far is the hotel from the marina again? i forget from when i was walking down there this morning, eight blocks? >> reporter: just to give a sense of proportion. >> reporter: there's two different bodies -- i can hear you, chris. there's two different bodies of water that we have to keep tabs on. on the west side of us we have the gulf of mexico. we're probably about a good eight blocks from that. that's that direction. if you look back over here toward the east about a mile or so is where that marina is and where the river that comes in on the east side of naples and that is going to be the area of real
concern because that storm surge gets pushed back in there and that starts fanning its way out through the neighborhoods and so that marina's about a mile away. >> reporter: all right. i got you. let me get dave out here, the pj, our photojournalist part of the team just to get you down this street. big man come over here and show them down the streets. if we're eight blocks away, you go past me, dave and get down -- get down that street. we're eight blocks away. chad to give you some perspective on this. here's eight blocks away and this is about -- you look at the yellow curb here at fifth avenue south and park street and you're at about eight inches to ten inches of water, okay, right here and the buildings are fine. that part of the integrity's all right. you got your typical debris from that gusting. when you look down the street, you see that -- there's been breech there, at least on one side of the street. the water has gotten into the buildings and it's got to be
well over a foot or so deep and that's still 6 1/2, 7 blocks from the marina. how does that fill in the blanks for you? >> what that is fresh water flooding. that is the rain that came down and went into the lowest part of that city and that is all fresh water. that has no content in it whatsoever because the water from the solinity, the water from the gulf of mexico has not truly arrived yet. a brand-new flash flood emergency for naples just issued about five minutes ago and so the water is still at the mean sea level right now but it is quickly rising and it will rise ten to 15 feet. this is almost waiting for a tsunami, although it won't be a tidal wave, it'll be a surge where one wave that comes up
that street, if you're at the right level. i don't know what your elevation is there, but if you were at any elevation that's five feet above sea level, you will see five feet or ten feet on top of that. the one wave will come in, it'll be a wash like a wave without a crest or a curl and then that will stay and then the next wave will come in and the first one won't go away like it usually does at the sea shore. the next wave's going to come in and it won't go away and then a next wave won't go away and it won't go away and this is not what you want to do. you do not want to be out with your dog when the water's coming up. >> reporter: i know. chad, he's got his three legged dog, he says he's lucky. hold on. hey. hey, pal. he's walking his dog.
i see you're out with the dog again. >> [ inaudible ]. >> reporter: you got to get back inside, pal. we got the backside of the storm still to come. the surge isn't here yet. please get back in. i'll come find you after. now most of the people here, chad, there's a lot of media. the good news is, they believe that most of who needed to evacuate did. we saw that local last night. nice guy. three legged dog. he's one of these salty types. been here for a long time. he knows what to worry about. he's probably thinking what i was, chad, which is all right, so here's that surge they were telling us about. it wasn't as bad. you're saying we haven't even seen it yet. that this is just like a little bit -- this is just a little bit of an vantage. this is a little bit of a runway for this surge. it can just follow this water. isn't that going to make it easier for the surge to penetrate if there's already -- if it's already liquid all the way up the road? >> absolutely, no question. this now ground is already
saturated, not that it was going to soak in at all any way, but the surge coming -- we'll see this rain that is now going to mix with the saltwater just continue to make the flooding worse. >> reporter: let me interrupt you for one second. do me a favor. keep talking people through about what's going to happen next. i'm going to go down to the street level so we can figure out, you know, what this means and i can get a better set of eyes for you on the road. dave's going to keep giving you the shot. i'll be out of it for a second. i'll be right back in a minute, okay. >> fair enough. here's what i would like to show you, for any one who's still in naples. let's come back to the weather wall here on camera one. all of a sudden the spike from the naples tidal gauge is here, the spike that we anticipated for the entire day has now arrived. it's because the eye wall itself has gone by all of the forces of the wind that pushing the water out, all those forces are now gone and so therefore, the eye
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unfortunately, this is like halftime. some people are out here, there's a lot of anxiousness to check on their homes, a lot of people have taken refugee in the local hotels, they want to get back and see. my man, chuck here, has got his three legged dog. every hurricane needs a three legged dog. they're out here to look around at it and this is just -- we're under the eye right now. we know that we have the whole backside to go. this isn't storm surge. this is the flooding and you know what, that's a little intimidating. chad, you were right. this was a flash flood. this is fresh water. this is rain water. and it did come here to a low point which is kind of where we are. you can see it with the sweep of the land, the water has followed that which means we don't know what is to come yet but we do know that this is a path of advantage. so the good news is it looks okay where we are right now. we don't know how it is in parts closer to the gulf or the river
that borders this part of naples, proper, come on by. people are trying to ferry around as soon as they can. now, i know chad we're supposed to be telling them not do it now you tell me why, what is coming yet here that they have to worry about? >> well, chris, honestly, the backside is coming. we know it is and if you venture out for 15 feet to let your dog do some duty, that's okay but i don't want you walking down to the ocean for sure and seeing what's going on there because that's where the water's coming from and as the backside of the eye comes in the wind shift direction and the reason why you never saw water in your harbor today because of the wind direction and when the wind changes direction, all of that water in the harbor is going to come back and it's going to come back way surge of ten to 15 feet higher than you've ever seen above sea level before. so this is a big surge for many
people that have never ever experienced this type of thing. other than st. louis, which had a 24 foot, 26 foot storm surge, very rarely any place else has ever seen ten to 15 feet. >> reporter: so if i'm eight blocks from the gulf contact here with naples, what do you think the chances that they get water coming this way? because this would be the main artery, this is a road that goes right down to the water's edge. this is where the marina is, am i right about that? chuck, chuck this road, if we follow it all the way down, how close to the marina, to the water do you get? from here to the water is about a mile and this would be a straight conduit awe the way to it? >> yes, sir. >> how many feet above sea level do you think? >> about five feet right here. >> reporter: you think you're five feet above sea level right here?
chad do you hear me. >> yes, the water's coming. the water isn't coming like a tsunami. >> reporter: you think the water is going to come to where we are? >> i do. especially when the wind blows it that way as well. not only is there a swell under the storm itself but there's going to be wind to project it to move it your way and it will propel all the way up that street if that is a straight shot to the ocean because that's the direction the wind is going to be coming from. >> reporter: so, chuck, chad says if we're about five feet that that storm surge that sucked the water out of the bay down there, that it's going to be coming at least this far -- where's your house? >> i live in houston. i just endured from hurricane harvey. >> reporter: you're here hanging out and you got a big knife on your hip. so the water's going to come this far at least and that's something to remember and, no, we will not venture down there and you do see people coming
out. there's curiosity, obviously. you have a lot of local here's and store owners who we were talking to before the storm. they were worried, chad. people worry about their businesses. they worry about their livelihood and there is a temptation to want to get out as soon as possible. there's also a ton of media and you hope the people you see out early are just media. but you do feel that it can come to where we are, huh? >> no question about it. let's just project this a little bit forward to others in the path. what we showed on television just 30 minutes ago is already and still happening north of you, so i know it looks like oh, it's over, well, yes, it's over where you are but it is not over for bonita springs. you are in it right now. naples park which is about ten miles north of you in it right now in the northern eye wall and that eye wall again will continue all the way to sarasota, all the way to anna maria until it either dies out
because of contact with dry land or it goes back out into the ocean and kind of stays with us all the way to tampa and hills brou. >> what is that car doing? >> reporter: it's about what you're choosing, chad, on that menu of suck that hurricane irma is bringing our way. you have the -- you have those winds and all that drama but then you have that storm surge which is of acute concern to all of these different pockets of communities on the west coast because that's what can create not just a second phase because it gets you with that surprise effect but that is what create the real property damage and the real threats to locking people in place. >> absolutely, it's the water that will kill you. we call it a storm surge. what it is is a flash flood and it's a 15 foot flash flood that comes from the ocean and clearly these people didn't know about it or don't know about it. chris, i have a question for you, you have a cell phone on you. your phone is working?
>> reporter: yeah. my whole pocket is filled with water. what do you want to know? >> did you ever today get an alert on your phone that said flash flood emergency in your area? >> reporter: no. my phone -- my phone is not -- not 100%, chad and not surprising because i got it in my pocket during a hurricane. >> i get it. >> we didn't get any alerts. if it weren't for you i wouldn't have known what that was. to me i would've thought it was the storm surge because that water came out of nowhere but you told me it was flash flood and i don't want to have death by escalade here. that was that standing water and now it's gone almost as fast as it came. my question to you is how about the storm surge, will that go as quickly as it comes? what are the factors that go into that?
>> the surge will last as long as the water pushes it on land and certainly that surge will be where you are, i believe. if you're only five feet above sea level then you will be standing in water up to your waist if not more and i know you'll get out of there before that, but i would say that's going to last at least three to four hours. now, we think about -- look how calm the water is other than the cadillac just driving through it, that water that comes in is not going to be calm because it's going to be pushed by a gust of 110 miles per hour, so there will be waves on top of that ten foot surge as soon as it gets into that downtown. i don't have any contact with marco island right now. i have tried. i have looked. i haven't seen because they would've already been seeing this surge. it would be there. it will be. it is there right now. i just don't know how bad it is. the same surge that we saw with katrina, even though katrina was only -- a cat three, cat four at
vegas casinos. places tens of thousands of dollars worth of bets in recent weeks. but why he did this, they simply have no clue. they know he has been acquiring weapons over the past several months. he has bought at gun stores in nevada, possibly outside the state as well. that part of nevada he is from, mesquite, is right on the border. so he could go to other states to try to buy weapons and have them sent back to the gun dealers in nevada 20 do it legally. but the big question here is how did he acquire automatic weapons. you've heard the sounds on the videos of these rapid shots. machine guns are illegal in the u.s. but it's possible to buy conventional semiautomatic weapons, meaning they fire every time you pull the trigger, but just one round and convert them. but that conversion process can make the weapons illegal. so the authorities are trying to figure out how he managed to get
his hands on these automatic weapons. he had some of those in the room. he had sniper rifles with scopes. so he clearly intended to have a great deal of firepower. they say when he checked into the hotel last thursday, he had all this arsenal with him in ten suitcases. so ten pieces of baggage. so nobody would have seen obviously that he was carrying in weapons to the hotel, chris. and they say that while he was there thursday, friday, saturday, sunday, and then into today, he didn't -- he didn't have them out in plain view that the hotel housekeeping staff had been in and out of his room and never noticed anything out of line. >> well, that's horrific. what about his father being in the ten most wanted list? what do you make of that? i don't believe in sort of inherited psychopathy. but what do you make of it? >> well, it's certainly something that they want to look
at. his father, benjamin hoskins paddock was arrested for robbing banks in phoenix in 1960, and then in 1968, while he was serving a 20-year sentence for the conviction on that, he scaped. that's what you're looking at now is his wanted poster from the fbi back in '68. then they described him on that poster, chris, down there at the bottom wrun it says caution as somebody who is diagnosed as psychopathic and has suicidal tendencies. and whether it means anything or not, after he -- escaped -- rather, after he robbed the bank in phoenix, he was arrested in las vegas. >> wow. >> so the paddocks have some connection to las vegas. they've been in and out of that area. they lived in arizona and nevada. so this is a part of the country that he is comfortable with. but what the father's background has anything to do with his current frame of mind, we just have no way of knowing.
because, chris, none of the usual indicators here, none of the electronic breadcrumbs seem to be in place. no social media. no note left behind. no at this point obvious internet conversations that we know of. none of these little indicators we tend to have found by this many hours after these past shootings. >> wow. great reporting, pete. we're going find out more as the days go on i'm sure. i'm joined right now by mick akers, a report were "the las vegas sun." that must be something of a lead that the father was on the most wanted list and was listed in the most wanted poster as psychopathic. >> definitely. although he has no background, really. it just adds a little something there. >> what do you know right now about this witnesses? what witnesses do we have on the 32nd floor where he was shooting from? >> yeah, i spoke with one gentleman from atlanta. he said he was about five rooms
away. he was asleep. between 10:00 and 10:15, he was awoken by hundreds of rounds of shots. he could smell the gunpowder. he immediately called the front desk. they said they're aware of an active shooter situation and to remain in his room. he said he hit the ground and waited it out. eventually metro police came up and escorteded him out of his room and down the 32 floors. >> let's get down the floors to the concert area. what do you know you can tell us about the casualty in this random 1200 feet away of a machine gunning of the crowd where he is just aiming the gun into the crowd and it's like a horrible lottery for those people. >> yeah. it just seemed like he was kind of playing a game. he would wait for them to get up and then start shooting. and once they would hit the ground, he would stop and then they would get up and he would start shooting again. a sister was 30-year-old and he was 20.
every time they would jump, she would jump on him. he had a longer life to live and more aspirations. she would gladly take the bullet for him. >> the shooter had some tripods. he also had a scope. you're telling me that he was a sniper. he could actually shoot personal targets from that distance? >> i'm not sure if he was able to do that. i know he was shooting at will. so i'm sure the 22,000 people there in attendance, it wasn't that hard for him to hit people even from that distance. >> thank you so much, mick akers for joining us. i'm joined now by brian hopkins. sea musician who was at l.a. night's concert. thank you. shortly after the shooting started hopkins and others ran for cover, eventually hiding in a large freeze attorney concert grounds. brian, tell us about your experience last night. >> it was -- it was kind of crazy. because when it happened, i wasn't sure what was going on. and we were right in front near the front of the stage.
and i heard bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. and people started rung. i grabbed a couple of girls right in front of me and my best friend, took off and got trampled. he got up and start eed running. and i took these people around the back side. i was backstage so i knew how to get there. and i ran down a wall, down the wall. and you could just hear bang bang bang bang bang happening. and you could hear it banging off the rooftop behind me and hitting around us. so i -- i don't know how -- i remember there was an opening where the entrance was to the right. and we ran into a fence. and i knew i could get over, but i couldn't get all the people that were screaming over. so i see this cooler. and when i opened it up, one of my friends was inside. and we just started throwing
people inside. it was about five feet off the ground. it was an actual freezer. and we locked ourselves in there. and we could hear -- we could hear the firing. and it was so cold inside. and the two young ladies that i was helping, they were amazing because they were calming down the one person and the guy who was throwing his fingers in front of the camera was banging on the walls. and we were trying to calm him down. and then i got up to open up the door. and there was more firing. so we shut the door. and i looked at my friend across the way. and i said everything is going to be okay. and he shook his head, like it's not. so we waited a couple of minutes. and i thought to myself, we're not going to die in here. and so i opened up -- he got up with me. we opened up the door. and someone had put a ramp up along the fence. and one guy jumped out. another guy jumps. and i asked the guy, the second guy to wait.
and i jumped down and i started helping the ladies get up over the fence until everyone was just trying to get over. and we were helping until the last two. and they were the two that i helped -- they stayed with me. and i couldn't get them over. so i turned to ron. and a police officer runs at me and screams "this way, this way." and i remember he is sweating and was just shaken up. but as soon as i get past him, he starts running to where all the noise is going for, all the bad is happening. he runs to it. and i'll never forget it. because then we were running down, and there was a body and body and another body. and the girls start to panic. and one of them started crying and wanted to call her dad. and i said keep running. and then we see a gentleman with a hole in his belly. and his friends trying to bring him to life.
and i started shaking, but it was keep moving, keep moving. and we run across the street. and there are people barricaded behind a bar. and the guy in the passenger seat was shot. and soy just told everybody run to the dark. just run. and people were following me. and we ran as far as we could run. but it still wasn't out of reach. it was like 50 yards. and two gentlemen on another side pull a gate so we can get me through and i could pull the gate open so everyone could get through this gate with us. and start running to hooters. it was terrifying and i don't -- i remember being calm during the whole thing. and as soon as i got home, i broke down. because i don't -- i should have -- part of me like oh, that fence, i can over that fence and i can get out of here. now and i ended up jumping in a cooler with everybody to try to keep them calm. but i didn't know if there were
shooters running around shooting and trying to get people quiet. i had no idea. and i lost my best friend. and i didn't know where he was. so i just stayed with these people. >> sir, i don't know you, but you have a good heart and you have great instincts for saving people. thank you so much, bryan hopkins for that incredible narration of the horror last night. >> thank you. >> joining us right now the nevada congresswoman adena titus. i've been watching. i hear automatic weaponry. i heard a machine gun. and i heard it relentless. it's a lot of clips, a lot of bananas. just kept firing and firing and firing. this guy goes into a hotel room with over a dozen weapons. what does it tell you about the state of las vegas and the law in las vegas? what should it be? what have we got here? >> well, i have to commend law enforcement here in las vegas, along with first responders and with the private security at mandalay bay. i don't know how you could have prevented this. they are looking at now las vegas being more of a hard
target than a soft target to see how we can improve security. but if you look at what all they did, they saved lives. as you heard mr. hopkins saying, running into the area that was full of people who were being harmed. >> well, what do you make of the elements at work here? i don't want to make this into a night of crusade on a night of horror where we should just sort of grieve and accept reality for a while. this guy zbees a hotel with weapons and tripods and scopes, everything with a clear intention to use them. he wasn't going to carry them home with him. is there anything we can do about stopping the act, this kind of act? >> well, you've got to remember, these were all in suitcases. he was staying for several days. he was in a sweet. the housekeeping staff had been in and out and not seen anything out of the way because nothing was visible. what do you do to check people's suitcases when you come in? that's something to look at. but i can tell you, we don't
want to make it political on this day of mourning, as you said. our office is trying to be of service and of solace. but have i stood for one too many times for a moment of silence on the floor of the house. >> i just wonder by picking up at least suitcases with guns in them, i would notice they were extra heavy. anyway, thank you. i like your patience with us tonight and your judgment. we'll get to this debate later. u.s. congresswoman dina titus of las vegas. still ahead, new details about the gunman himself, who he was, and what we know about his motive. boy, that's the question of the night, motive for last night's horror. those people were all alive this time yesterday. in fact, this time they were all alive and never expected this horror. they were going out to a concert. and that guy ended their lives. this one guy did it. we've got to find out why. our coverage continues after this.
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we're learning more about the suspect in last night's mass shooting. 64-year-old stephen craig paddock had been gambling significant amounts of money at las vegas's casinos over the past few weeks. today our nbc station in orlando caught up with the suspect's brother. here is what he said. >> our condolences to everyone. we just don't understand. it's like i said, an asteroid just fell out of the sky, and we have no reason, rhyme, rationale, excuse. there is just nothing. i mean, he has no criminal record. he has nothing, nothing, nothing. >> nbc news correspondent katie bank joins us from mesquite, nevada near the suspect's home. katie, thank you. what can we find out from his house? >> well, chris, we are actually in his community, which is a sleepy retirement community in
the desert. it's about 80 miles from las vegas. this is an upscale neighborhood where people largely come to relax. that's where his brother thought he was come to do when stephen paddock moved in here in 2015. what we have witnessed today is basically police executing a search warrant on his home, looking for any type of evidence, any time of clue that could solve the mystery behind the motive. why did he do it? what was the motivation? and what lies in that house that could potentially solve that for them. they have been in there throughout the day, trying to find anything that would give them those answers. late this afternoon, they finally wrapped up. and when they did come out, we learn they'd had left with 18 firearms, several thousand rounds of ammunition and explosive devices, among other things. they weren't giving us exact details on the other items that were taken out. we imagine they did some forensics on his computers, any type of communication that was on devices in that home. but we are told they have completed the execution of that
search warrant. and now they're going sift through that evidence and see if there is a motive in there somewhere. chris? >> you mean 18 weapons in addition to that almost that amount in the hotel room? is that right? >> correct. and we have also learned independently -- that is correct. we also learned independently that paddock bought several firearms from a gun store just two miles down the road from us here. the store owner told us the background checks were completed when he purchased those firearms, and he didn't see anything in paddock that would strike him as unfit to own a gun. >> well, they are ar-15s. thank you, cattie beck in mesqui mesquite, nevada. a gunman callously opened fire on thousands of people at a country music festival. in the aftermath, the big question is why did this guy do it. >> do you have any kind of motives we're looking at? >> no, ma'am. i can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point. >> this is a classic wmd.
this is a weapon in a man of mass destruction. >> this is a crazed lunatic full of hate. we don't know much about his background. >> well, statistics we're told show the vegas gunman is 64 years old, was twice the age of the average mass shooter, whatever good that tells us. in interviews with his brother eric said that his brother was not a normal guy and frequently played high stakes video poker. we're getting kind of a disconnect there. not a normal guy and never been in any trouble. we'll see how that fixes together. i'm joined by clint van zandt, former fbi agent and msnbc contributor. clint and candice, what do you make of the combined accounts from the brother? one, sea law-abiding guy and never broke any rules, but he is not quite normal. what? how does that sound to you? >> well, to me, this guy is really an anomaly. so far we don't have any of the
indicators that we see in the past. we don't see money. we don't see health issues. we don't know about girlfriends. we know he is older than the average age. we know he lived in a retirement where he should have been drinking beer and watching baseball instead of accumulating 35 weapons. and ammonium nitrate, all you have to do is mix fuel oil and you have oklahoma city. whether this is two personalities, the one he showed his family and the rest of the world and one he kept hidden, that's still something we have to learn. >> candice, what do you make of the father? the father being on the most wanted list and described in the wanted posters as psychotic? >> well, he was described as psychopathic, which is different. basically, it's a personality disorder where someone just lax empathy. they never feel guilt or remorse for anything they do, which makes it easy for them to commit crimes and become a criminal. it's my understanding the father tried to run down a cop, which
is why he was on the ten most wanted list. >> i see. >> it does make me wonder. that happened in 1968. and offender, the shooter in las vegas was i think born in 1954-'55, what his home life was like. he is being raised by a criminal. we don't know all that much yet. in regards to the brother's contrary statements, chris, it's rare for families to come forward after something like this and say i knew something like this was going to happen. even if they did. >> boy, that's intelligent. let me get back to clint on that. what do you think? it sounds right to me. you don't want to incriminate yourself by saying i knew the guy was heading for trouble. >> well, you know, ted kaczynski's brother raised his hand and said i think there is a problem with my brother. when i was an fbi agent, i sought his father. his father was top ten most wanted fugitive.
and we were looking for guy in the 70s. when i heard that name, there was a distant bell. but again, i don't know that -- you made the comment earlier. i don't know if there is a connection there. we don't know how much influence the father had over him there is a lot of things, chris there is so much we don't know and so much we need to know. we got three things. we got a deal with the psychology of shooters, how to understand their motivation and get in front of them instead of behind them. we have to limit their access to guns. and we have to develop technology that's going help law enforcement react faster. it took an hour and five minutes. and the cops did the very best job the world can do. it still took them an hour and five minutes. what, for example, if they had a remote controlled plane, a little hand-held robol that you throw up in the air. it goes up to the 32nd floor and it says gee, there the guy is. we need to get ahead of these guys. >> yeah. >> in technology, in thinking and psychology. we can't be behind them all this
time. >> candice, what do you make of the -- i'm not calling this guy mcgyver or anything like that to make light of it. but he did have the capacity to go out and get the magazines. he had all the firepower. heed that scope. he had the tripod. he knew how to break open a window. he knew hotels don't have open windows anymore. office buildings don't either. he seemed to have the whole thing scoped out intelligently. and if he wanted to commit mass mayhem, he did it. so in terms of his effectiveness, does that tell you anything about his psychology, that he has a competence that is frightening to go with his bad psychology? >> well, it tells me something about his state of mind. for example, let's compare him to james holmes, the young colorado -- university of colorado student that went into the heater in aurore rachet. >> right. >> it turns out he was seriously mentally ill, as bad as it gets, psychotic, hearing voices,
delusional. and he did a lot of planning as well. but it certainly wasn't on the level that the las vegas shooter's planning was. one of the things that strikes me about what happened in las vegas is that this person, for 72 hours at least was able to plan things out, not apparently jump ahead. maybe he was waiting for sunday night because that was the big event. that was the end of the concert. the headliner was playing. that tells me he probably was not hearing voices, was not delusional. >> yeah. >> there is a famous or a notorious shooting back the '60s at the university of texas. charles whitman went up to the clock tower, and one by one killed 13 people before he was killed bay cop. and it turns out the autopsy revealed that he had an undiagnosed brain tumor. things like to, brain tumor, we know what chronic encephalopathy
can do. there may be something turn up in his physical and mental health that will help explain this madness. >> back then it was rarity, candice. now it's not anymore. thank you. mass shooting. clint van zandt, as always, thank you, sir, candice delong. coming up, law enforcement is being credited with saving many lives last night. we're going look at the police work that went into finding the shooter. our coverage continues after this. [bullfighting music] [burke] billy-goat ruffians. seen it. covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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welcome back to "hardball." our coverage of the deadly shooting in las vegas last night. with the las vegas metropolitan police were quick to mobilize amid reports of the shoot iing last night. the challenge was determining exactly where the shots were coming from. a police scanner captured the response among law enforcement officials as they tried to locate the shooter. >> coming from upstairs in the mandalay bay. upstairs in the mandalay bay, halfway up. i've seen the shots coming from mandalay bay. halfway up. >> we have an active shooter. we have an active shooter inside. >> i'm going to form a strike team. mandalay bay and the boulevard. i need five officers on me. >> be advised. it is automatic fire, fully automatic fire from an elevated position. take cover. >> fully automatic fire. everyone is saying that now. law enforcement made their way to the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay resort, closing in on the room where gunman stephen
paddock had massacred his victims from over a thousand feet away. let's listen to the moment they breached the door with explosives. >> we're going to sit on the suspect's door. i need everybody in the hallway to be aware of it and to get back. we need to pop this and see if we get any type of response from this guy. >> on the 32nd floor, explosive breach. all units move back. >> breach, breach, breach. >> that was the explosion opening the door on the 32nd floor to where the shooter was shooting from. according to sheriff joseph lombardo, they believe he killed himself before the room was breached. he said 15 guns were found inside and chemicals commonly used in explosives were found in his car. 18 additional firearms were also found at his home in mesquite. i'm joined by shawn henry, former executive assistant of the fbi, and david shepherd, served 24 years in the fbi. he is the former executive director of security for the
venetian resort hotel and casino. darrin, you start. i want to talk about the problem with these very high-rise hotels and the difficult in this case of locating the shooterment your thoughts. >> well, of course it's a difficult and arduous task when you have a high-rise. but one of the things that alerted law enforcement to the position of the suspect was the smoke detector. he shot -- he fired so many rounds while he was in the room on the 32nd floor, the smoke detectors ignited. and that's what triggered the response to the 32nd floor. but whenever you're trying to pursue a suspect in the high-rise, and take into consideration a place like new york city, it's always a very arduous task. oftentimes you may not want to use the elevators. you may want to use the stairs to go up. but once again, you need to be in great shape to get up 32 flights of stairs to encounter that assailant in that room. >> why wouldn't you want to use the elevator? >> because a host of things. the assailant can actually stop the elevator himself.
and you don't want something like that to occur. take into consideration when ever there is a fire, you never use the elevator. fear of a malfunction with that elevator. and the same premise holds true with law enforcement responding to an assailant in a place like this. >> shawn henry, i want to ask you about this use of the fact that a smoke alarm was the indicator. which was the shooter's room. and that means it seems to me, if you want to follow that out, if they didn't have the smoke alarm, he would have kept shooting because they wouldn't have known where to find the guy for a while. >> i think they eventually would have found him. >> eventually. >> there were some reports from some of the neighboring guests about loud noises that were coming out. the officers that were out in the venue who were looking up and were reporting where they were seeing bright lights. and then from there, you count up and you count over. and you can start to triangulate on what the shooter's position was. i mean law enforcement in this case, chris, were very, very active in saving people, getting them off to a safe place, as
well as identifying where the shooter was. so that tactical team could get up, make that explosive breach, get into that room, and to eliminate or neutralize the threat. >> what do you make of a guy -- he obviously modified his semiautomatic. he turned into it a machine gun, by all the reports you. ucan hear the rat-tat-tat. he knew he could shoot four football fields away. four football fields away with some accuracy. was that the elevation that he wanted? he got the right room he wanted on the corner, which was the closest to the concert area. so much thought and calculation went into this thing, it seems to me. your thoughts. >> he absolutely had a strategic position. and the elevation provided him with that distinct advantage. i don't think there is anything to him in terms of marksmanship. i think he was trying to put as many rounds possible down range to try and inflict as much harm
as he could. those .223 rounds travel at a high velocity, and they do travel for a very long distance. i think he was trying to put as much lead down into that space to try and kill as many people as possible. and he certainly did that, chris. >> david, tell us about vegas and how this fits with your experience throughout with security for these hotels. because here you got protect people from somebody in the hotel. this isn't the usual guy stealing somebody's diamonds. this is a guy throughout with automatic weapon effectively shooting out the window. and knowing that he could break the window with a hammer, with whatever he used, a hammer-like object, whatever he had. this guy had it figured. >> he planned well from the beginning. this is something that a lot of the active shooters do. and what you're looking at is a person that wanted to do that. he planned. he looked for closest area. he planned it all out as much as he could. the security chiefs, we deal really close with the metropolitan police. we do a lot of training with them. we discuss different scenarios. we do the same thing for the
southern nevada counterterrorism fusion center to look at different type of events. and it's constantly going on. >> is there a lot of despondency about there? i'm sure there. vegas was built on people losing, not winning. everybody keeps talking back east here about how tens of thousands of dollars he lost in the last several days. my hunch is he brought those guns with him to do something with those guns. he didn't just somehow conjure up guns after he lost a few days at the gaming table. thinking wasn't -- this was a planned attack. he checked in on the 28th. so he had some time to coordinate his assault or his offensive against these individuals. but just going back to what you mentioned in terms of the aim, it was like shooting ducks in a barrel. we have 22,000 people right in front of him. it's the equivalent of throwing a bowl into the ocean. unfortunately, when you look at the weaponry that he used in this, it kind of remind me. i'm an ex-army officer. and it reminded me of my
training on the firing line. it was either a belt fed or a weapon that had a drum magazine. because there were numerous rounds that came in continuous succession. we only had three breaks. we had hundreds of rounds that were fired at these individuals. so there was no marksmanship deployed here. >> darrin, what do you make of this testimony we got from a live witness, bryan hopkins, that this guy was picking them off. they would get up. he would shout shoot them when they got up. they would get down, he would stop. he said he was shooting, he was sniepg. >> the witness or the person that shot is in the state of fear. so i can understand them looking at it from that perspective. but the truth of the matter is we just have a person firing aimlessly. he is destined to hit hundreds of people. >> okay. >> we look at three football fields. that's nothing when we look at a .223 or a .30-06 rifle. >> thank you so much. david shepherd, darrin porcher i just spoke with and shawn henry.
coming up, harrowing witness accounts continue following last night's shooting. we speak to one man who was just a few feet from the stage when the gunfire rang out. our coverage continues after this. it's called broccoli of cheddar soup.ve? i loved it, but it was like, "honey, i am way too decadent for you!" so i came up with o, that's good! a new line of comfort soups with a nutritious twist. we replaced a hunk of this... with velvety butternut squash. if i hadn't told you, you wouldn't know. comfort food that loves you back. o... mmm ...that's good!
out in this area. this was, if you can believe it, this was the staging area for police, emts, for fire crews, for everybody that was a first responder on that scene. it was completely littered with squad cars, mostly with units and guys in full riot gear and long guns going from hotel to hotel to hotel doing sweeps. as we arrived onscene, there was a crowd of people rushing our way because of the gunfire that was ensuing behind them. as we went in, we heard victim stories. as we've been hearing all day. we've been hearing about a woman that used the bodies around her to play dead, to escape the fire. we heard about a woman who hid in a bush to escape that gunfire. and people who were shepherding those folks from the scene in their cars away from the scene to safety. so tremendous stories of survival here on scene, chris. >> you're there for the scene. thank you, steve patterson with that great report in las vegas. one of the witnesses to last night's mayhem joins us by phone. buzz brainard is host of "the
highway" on xm radio. buzz, tell me about what you saw, what you felt, what you went through. >> well, we were in the artist tent, which is right off the stage. and it was our last -- our last performance of the three-day festival. and we'd been here for three days, and everybody was in a good mood celebrating. and we heard the bam bam bam bam bam. i think everybody just thought it was fireworks. and i heard that from everybody. and it happened again. people stepped out of the tent. and somebody said it might be some of the power lines above us. and then the third time we realized it was gunfire. and so we were lucky because we were in the backstage area where there was a lot of equipment and there was some tour buses. we immediately dove under the tour buses for cover. and the bullets were coming down you. could see them hitting the dirt in front of you. and the dirt would shoot up in your face. we stayed there for a while. and then security decide it was time for us all to leave. so we all got to run, everybody
backstage. and our quickest exit was right over the stage, running straight away from mandalay bay. and we joined -- we joined the masses of people that were
puerto rico tomorrow. i'm joined right now by nbc's hallie jackson at the white house. so what are the president's plans in terms of reacting to this horror? >> so i think you've seen some of it already, chris. you've seen the moment of silence. you've seen the president scramble the morning plans that he had. he was supposed to hold a deregulation event. instead he came out and delivered that speech. as you noted, calling what happened in las vegas an act of pure evil. this speech was more spiritual in tone than what we've heard from the president before. he used language about scripture, language about faith that he hasn't always talked about after moments like these. we then saw the president add to his schedule what we're watching right now, which is that moment of silence with the first lady, the vice president and the vice president's wife as well. and then sarah huckabee sanders said now is not the time to be talking about gun control, which here in washington some lawmakers, particularly democrats do want to have the conversation about. >> well, we have to wonder when we do have a conversation about it, if not now. anyway, nbc's hallie jackson at
the white house. incredible numbers injured in las vegas. officials are calling for blood donations. i'm joined now by nbc's jo ling kent who is at a blood drive in las vegas. jo ling? >> this line stretches about 150 yards. people have been standing here five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten hours. what they want to do is donate blood because the city has called for it. obviously there are 500 folks in the hospital injured who need that but what you see here is an outpouring of community support. it's a really remarkable feeling. even though this tragedy has hit las vegas so hard you, have you the public coming together in a way that a lot of people here say they've never seen before. and so as a result, you have families bringing groceries, donating food. big companies, small bake risks all coming out to make sure everyone is hydrated, that they're eating, that they're able to wait in line. and all the way around here, you see there are folks lined up, and they are all here to donate blood, chris. and they're not going to close down until they can't take
fans should do the same and ask for money back. this is a conversation that's not going end any time soon. rob: it absolutely is. 4:00 to 6:00 a.m. every day. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> this is exactly what the base wants and also speaks to the issue of law and order. >> vice president mike pence left the indiana colts game after football players took a knee during national anthem. >> walk out as gerture of patriotic principle. >> the las vegas cops try today breach the room of paddock. >> we were tripping over guns. >> could there have been any laws passed that would have stopped him? >> reports of people hiding inside of wineries in northern california.
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brian: and the guy was dead. >> so many guns, so many magazines, stacks and stacks of magazines everywhere. in suitcases all neatly stacked, against pillars that were in the room all stacked up, rifles placed all through out. >> i could smell the gun powder. we were tripping on long guns, there were so many inside. >> i could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what the bullet was going to be for those -- for the crowd. so he had that written out and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his guys. ainsley: they say he was a math guy, he played slot machines, where people were going to be standing as far as distance is concerned, it's very eerie.
brian sunday shows were talking about gun control again, everybody wants to solve the problem, there's no clear indication on how to stop this guy because we know so little and even senator diane feinstein found herself contradicting herself, for example. >> could there have been any law passed that would have stopped him? >> no, he passed background checks registering for handguns and other weapons on multiple occasions. steve: she's pushing the abolition of the gun -- these bump stocks and she said yesterday that there is republican interest, there's republican interest in having hearings, she has 38 cosponsors that are democrats. nra would like the atf to regulate. brian: definitely bridging there. very little resistance from the nra and republicans about getting rid of this. i think in the long run, that's
the problem, we are still reacting to it but if people want a bigger conversation and if nancy pelosi skidded into, she hopes it's a slippery-slope, she hopes that this leads to other things that go wrong for additional gun control. ainsley: we will hand it over to julian, congratulations on the morning show. >> "fox & friends first" started 4:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. ainsley: you took us back to your home on your first job. >> we have serious news to get to, let's begin with breaking news. raging wild fires forcing mass evacuations in wine country. it's so bad the napa county sheriffs issuing warning to crew, quote, we are in survival mode, don't take any chances. windy and dry conditions are fueling the flames up to 50 miles an hour in some areas. one of the most powerful men in
hollywood weinstein fired from his own company after accusations he sexually harassed women for decades. this morning reports that the company he cofounded with his brothers will change name. board members say name is too tainted now. o'hare airport police arresting a man with a pressure cooker, ar-15 and handgun in his car. police pulled over santos for speeding outside of the airport, that's when they found the cooker and the gun. the family says the whole thing is a misunderstanding. i will see you in a little bit. >> all the buzz words. brian: straight ahead, she went to prison for leaking classified information, this morning chelsea manning has a new excuse, you'll want to hear that. steve: president trump is about to take a hatchet to obamacare. professor is here to break it down. what it means for you, live from new york city on combluís --
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watching right now, how would that mean lower premiums for them? >> you will have the option to buy plans that have fewer kinds of coverages and that have lower prices for those fewer kinds of coverages, that suits you, makes sense for you, you can buy that. right now you don't have the examination, -- option. steve: right now under obamacare and what we have, you have to have the essential services and they are very expensive. >> you might not need maternity care. right now you have to buy that, that's subsidizing other people. the president is saying, if you don't need, don't buy it. it's kind of common sense, buy the thing that you need and that's why obamacare proponents are so concerned because they know people are going do like that option. steve: that's right. the president has a pen just like president obama. he talks about the pen and a phone. this president has pen and twitter account and sounds like he will sign it this week?
>> thursday. probably legal challenges, people will speak up against this. takes time to implement these things. it's not clear if it will come into effect for 2018. at some point down the road it'll create option that is hopefully can bring down prices for some consumers who have been struggling under double-digit price increases for a couple years now. steve: professor, back to class. disgraced army sergeant expect today plea guilty but what happened to the five taliban prisoners we trade today get him back. the video is insane, a man hanging on to the hood of a moving school bus. the kids inside terrified. the story behind the viral video coming up on columbus day. when you say you need
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whatever happened to taliban 5 he was swapped for. senior intelligence operative for the u.s. army, lieutenant colonel tony, what does it mean for the five that we release without congressional approval? >> this makes a bad deal look way worse if that's possible. look, these guys were the worst of the worst at least three of them should have been turned over not to qatar but essentially the criminal court, the world criminal court for crimes against humanity. the folks slaughtered own afghan and muslim faithful. that on top of the fact that the actual event, the trade was illegal, congressman thornberry's committee determined two years ago that the whole deal was, in fact, breaking the law. so not only do we see president obama breaking law for purposes in my judgment, brian, of trying to clear out guantanamo, these
guys now have been caught at least -- katherine reported on this, attempt to go return to battlefield by essentially contacting the taliban in afghanistan and they are, indeed, doing everything they can to return to the front lines of the war. so everything that happened here was very bad. brien: colonel, former president wanted to empty gitmo, this was convenient. bergahl, aisle look like a hero and dump people out of the prison i vow to close. i was looking back at it, at least one said to go back to battle. these are commanders, they don't necessarily carry the guns, they strike that guise and know how to tear down existing government. >> he wants to go work for isis. he wants to go work for the stronger team. while isis is on the run, the
guys will love to go back in there. these are the commanders. brian, let me point something out to the audience, president obama has other and better options, if you read the arms services reserve, i had a certain role in some of the activities behind the scene. so the president, president obama chose to not take the best option which was to do something to get bergdahl back without having to give up five commanders, generals, it was not only a horrible trade, you're talking about trading essentially five generals for one traitor. brian: i don't know how many late-night comics were crying over this. probably people lost their lives in order to capture them. remember when susan rice not only didn't acknowledge that these were five bad guys, they thought bergdahl was a great guy. let's listen. >> yeah. >> a lot of questions how he was captured and whether or not he had deserted, left his posed,
would he be disciplined or has he paid the price? >> certainly anybody whose been held in those conditions in capttivity for five years has paid an extraordinary price but that is really not the point. the point is that he's back, he's going to be safely reunited with his family, he served the united states with honor and dye stinks. brian: not true, not true. >> he should be put in front of a firing squad. to that point, brian, during the time that they were searching for him right after he departed post, at least seven to ten individuals according to my count to people i talked on the ground, at least seven americans and three british died in the search for bergdahl right after he left. this was not only a terrible deal, people who have put their lives on the line and died
looking for this guy. brian: they had to search for him and his commanding officer got shot, thankfully he survived. colonel, thank you so much. >> thanks, brian. brian: remember the promise that president trump made to coal country? >> we will put the miners back to work, it's going to happen fast. you're going to be back to better than ever before. brian: today he's about to deliver big-time and liberals may not like it and the left is blasting vice president pence after walking out of colts game, but our next guest says those critics are hypocrites, it's birthday time for scotty, he's 14, no he's 24, he's not aging and that bothers me. you know, i believe it's his career highlight. american idol second best. ♪ ♪
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>> this is a fox news alert, people are picking up the pieces after hurricane nate landed in the south as a category one hurricane. brian: it's now a tropical depression, and folks down south are not out of the woods yet. ainsley: ellison barber joins us live from biloxi, mississippi. we're looking at the video of that casino. gosh, sea of water. >> reporter: we're not far from that, and it's starting to rain which never makes the clean-up process easy. this morning in alabama about 7,000 people are waking up without power. mississippi power says they restored power for all of their customers around 9:00 last night. hurricane nate is being blamed for 20 depths in central america. in the u.s., nate has mostly caused power outage and minimal damage. i want to show you some the damage right here on the beach. you can see there's a sailboat
over here, it's been stuck on the beach since sunday morning, one of the bigger pieces of debris people are going to need to try and clean up in the coming days. you walk half a mile this way, there are a number of casinos in this direction. we know at least three casinos experienced flooding. for many of them, that flooding took place in the parking deck. cars were damaged or destroyed and then, of course, there's that video, ainsley, that you referred to at the golden nugget. the lobby there was replaced with water and storm surge. hurricane -- the last hurricane, actually, to hit the state of mississippi was hurricane katrina in 2005. officials here talked a lot about that yesterday. take a listen. >> we did not dodge a bullet in mississippi. we got hit head on at night by a category one storm. if the that same storm, if nate would have hit us 15 years ago, the damage would have been much more extensive.
>> reporter: that's the thing officials kept reiterating, they kept saying that the work they did after hurricane katrina destroyed this area is what made the damage this weekend a whole lot less. they kept saying maybe some people are referring to new orleans as a place that dodged a bullet, but they don't feel like they did here. they took a hit, a hard hit, and they survived it and did well because they put in so much work after 2005 and hurricane katrina. steve, brian, ainsley? steve: indeed. ellison barber, live in biloxi, i've been to that casino. that's heartbreaking. brian: they did a hell of a job after katrina. they were so efficient in rebuilding, great governor, haley barbour, led the charge. steve: this particular storm was going so fast it's now, adam klotz, it's now up in the northeast. >> reporter: yeah, it's going to be completely out of the country before the day's over. actually, the pennsylvaniaest hurricane moving -- fastest
hurricane moving through the gulf of mexico we have ever seen make landfall. really spreading out, but we're beginning to see showers in washington, d.c., philadelphia, up towards new york before too long as this system continues to move very quickly up the east coast. this is our future radar, pay attention to the time stamp in the corner as i move along. some showers already in washington, d.c., the heaviest rain in philadelphia and new york, by early this afternoon. you're talking about boston, portland, maine by tonight and the overnight hours we are completely clearing off, and you're looking at clear skies on the back side of this. this is such a fast mover, currently moving at 60 miles an hour. it's going to be gone before we know it. ainsley: vice president mike pence walking out of yesterday's colts game in indianapolis after -- [inaudible] san francisco 49ers kneeling during the anthem. in a tweet, the vice president explained i left because potus
and i will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our a flag or our national anthem. the vice president's former press secretary joins us now to react. good morning to you, mark. >> thanks for having me back. ainsley: do you know exactly why he did this? >> i haven't had a chance to speak to him yet, they're off to california, but this is not surprising. the president stands with the american people, and it's the height of hypocrisy for liberal democrats to celebrate players who disrespect the flag, disrespect the national anthem and those who defend it and then accuse the vice president for engaging in husband same rights of doing a political -- his same rights of doing a political stunt. brian: this is an historic day in indianapolis because they retired peyton manning's number. they brought back a lot of great players and had a whole ceremony before, that's why i believe the vice president would want to be there. after all, he was governor
during his heyday and congressman. >> absolutely. this was on the vice president's calendar for many years even before i left the administration. we knew this was a date we had marked on our calendar that the vice president was going to attend. he actually added going to las vegas to honor those who, brave americans and first responders, who had saved people during the massacre there the day before on saturday, which kind of adjusted the schedule. but this had long been a day on the vice president's calendar he was looking forward to. steve: adam schiff who is a democrat from california said yesterday, you know, how much taxpayer money was wasted on this pr stunt? what's your message for the congressman from california? >> well, i don't take a lot of fiscal responsibility lectures from a democrat from california when you look at the budget of their state and look at what the national debt, you know, nearly doubled under president obama. but this was something that was long planned by the vice president. he had planned to attending this, he was doing everything he probably could, and that's
nothing but trying to change the story from the fact that you still had 20 nfl players who were taking a knee during the national anthem while the nfl watches its popularity plummet. they're underwater with men 35-54. this is just a chance to distract it from the real story. the fact is if they wouldn't have taken a knee, the vice president would have been there watching the first half of that game and the peyton manning tribute at halftime. ainsley: eric reed is a 49's' safety, listen to what he had to say about it. >> with the information i have, the last time he's been to a colts game three years ago, so this looks like a pr stunt. he knew our team has had the most player protests, he knew that we were probably going to do it again. ames ames keep in mind these comments, these naysayers all after we have first responders running into bullets to save other americans, but they don't want to stand for the national anthem.
>> it's not surprising. the vice president was at the service honoring those people. the vice president went to colts games last year, i went with him during the campaign, and while the san francisco 49er players may not know it, he actually was at the super bowl last year taking wounded veterans who had been injured in service of our country, he took them to the super bowl last year. the 49ers wouldn't know about that, but that tells you, i mean, the vice president understands about the patriotism, he's also a lover -- he loves the game of football. it's unfortunate this is where the game is going. brian: right. jerry jones and steven ross, two owners who said my guys have to stand from now on. the president tweeted after: i have had the v -- asked the vp to leave in anybody kneeled, i'm proud of him and second lady karen. we'll see where this goes because there's been a lot of blowback on this. >> absolutely. ainsley: thank you, mark. brian: so far the nba and so far the mlb playoffs, everyone's
standing. ames ames don't say that. we don't need any more of it. please. don't listen to brian, if you play in the nba. brian brian there's rumors they're going to be doing something. ainsley: i know, i know. steve: i wonder if this is the new standard if somebody from the administration is in attendance if players take a knee, okay, you know what? we're going to have to leave. stay tuned. meanwhile, time for some headlines. ainsley: this all started in the nhl. brian brian it did? did not see that. the penguins will be coming to the white house this week. ames ames yep. we'll keep you posted, that's for sure. let's get you caught up on your news of the morning. do you remember this promise president trump made to coal country? >> you're going to see what happens, you're going to see. i get elected, you're going to see what happens. it's going to happen fast, and you're going to be back to better than ever before. [cheers and applause] ainsley: well, he's about to deliver on it today. the administration set to make a
big announcement on climate policy. the epa planning to scrap former president obama's clean power plan, the agency declaring that the rule meant to curb greenhouse gas emissions exceeds federal law by setting standards that power plants could not reason my meet. convicted leaker chelsea manning claims she didn't spill any government desperates, only history -- secrets, only history. manning saying, quote: these aren't intention documents, it's historical data. there's no troop movements, it was a record of everything that had happened in iraq and afghanistan. manning spent seven years in military prison for disclosing classified government information to wikileaks. president obama commuted her sentence. ing yahoo! well, this video is absolutely insane. an irate man cling toss a moving school bus after he says a bottle was thrown at his car, the bus driver refusing to top. >> get off the bus. [inaudible conversations] get off the bus.
ainsley: an off-duty officer quickly stepped in to help. the man was arrested, the bus was packed with middle school-aged kids. that must have been -- brian: why didn't the bus driver stop immediately? auction ames could you imagine being a kid on the bus? >> reporter: the driver just kept going. there's a guy on the hood of the car. stop. [laughter] ainsley: all right, thanks. i'm glad the guy's okay. several massive wildfires burning right now, homeowners are using buckets of water literally to stop the flames at their doorsteps including the brother of our to op own adam houseley, we're going to speak to him next. steve: and counselor to the president, chonway, is going to be joining uses. also dana loesch. "fox & friends" for columbus day continues in a come of minutes. ♪ ♪ 75 million of us suffer from the gritty and frustrating symptoms
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about cosentyx. ♪ ♪ steve: time for some quick headlines on this columbus day. first up, walmart wants waiting in line to be a thing of the past. walmart launches a new app allowing shoppers to return items in 30 seconds or less. this sounds fantastic. shoppers just scan stuff they don't want before heading to the customer service desk. it will launch next month at wal-mart. that is great. and dunkin' donuts are cutting down its menu, the chain will eliminate about six different flavors. no word on what doughnuts will be cut. let's just hope it's not the ones -- [inaudible] ainsley: chocolate. brian: fox news alert, multiple fires raging out of control forcing mass evacuations in california's wine country right now. ainsley: fox reporter adam
houseley's parents' vineyard is surrounded by flames right now, his brother, eric, has used buckets of water to keep the fire away. steve: eric joins us on the phone. eric, where are you? i know your family's vineyard is in, what, nap a pa county. >> -- napa county? >> yeah. some of our vineyards we have or on our property is in napa valley. steve: and you have been evacuated as we look at some of these images. >> yeah. my wife and kids, we were evacuated out and took them out when cinders were landing in the front of our house. our front, you know, trees caught on fire, but i went back and was helping put out fires at james cole winery that has been on fire already, cignarello, winery is done which is right next to my parents' house. ainsley: eric, you know, we work
so hard for everything that we have, your parents have built this business, and you work for the family company too. what are the emotions? what are you going through right now? >> you know, it was scary, you know, having children in the house and the thought of, okay, let's put some stuff in the car, everything will be fine. and then when i was loading the car, to have the cinders starting to land and things catch on fire in the front driveway, it really kind of sends a different message. so we thought we were far enough away, you know? we're surrounded by vineyards, and, you know, there's enough moisture right now, but the winds picked up to 40 plus miles an hour probably, very windy, and it changed directions, and it headed straight west down the valley floor over the hill. brian: so we're watching video right now, arik. is it yours? did you shoot this? >> you know what? because i'm on audio, i can't see you --
ainsley: our producer says yes. >> i sent it to my brother. yeah, those videos are ones i took on silverado trail, most people come to napa valley and travel down the primary road, the 128. so that was what i was shooting earlier -- well, that was probably about one a.m. so it was about an hour after the wall of flames kind of coming over the hill. steve: i tell you what, thank you very much for the reporting, and we're sorry you had to evacuate, but it sounds like it's for the better. arik houseley, the younger brother of our correspondent, adam, thank you very much. brian: heene while, ten -- meanwhile, this father and his two young children were killed by illegal immigrants smashing into them on a texas highway, but that immigrant only got two years in prison. where's the justice for the family? we're going to ask texas attorney general ken paxton that next hour. plus, an tee that has a new
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>> it's been absolutely positive. it's very important. columbus is the pride of italian-americans, but it's an important message for all americans. what these organizations are doing to try to deface columbus statues is un-american, and it's outrageous, and i'm asking people to be on the lookout today. if they see think of this going on, shoot pictures and video of it and call the police. we have to come together and send a very strong message of just how wrong it is. ainsley: have you had any takers? >> i think they're embarrassed, but the up to of oyster bay would be thrilled to make a home for any statue of columbus, specifically in massapequa on the north shore, we go from the long island sound to the ocean, and we're a very proud community who understands our heritage. steve: and we have a lot of italians. >> host: there's a few. [laughter] steve: what do you make of this dethat some statues should come down or be moved?
>> people need to take another look at the history. columbus tried, found guilty and hanged europeans for their crimes against the indigenous people. quite frankly, i believe he was a tremendous progressive. but if you're going to continue taking down a statue of columbus, then you should be at columbia university protesting and demanding they change the name of that university, and that's probably what's next. brian: what a waste of money now. we have security 24 hours at columbus circle to watch the statue on columbus day. it's an embarrassment. >> it really is. people have to embrace real history. we were talking about more than 500 years ago. and, quite frankly, these actions divide a nation and are counterproductive to their goals. ainsley: you're not going to call it indigenous people day, you're going to call it columbus day. >> columbus day was created, actually, to heal the wounds in
america after the massacre at wounded knee and the hanging of italian immigrants in new orleans. steve: let us know if you have any takers. >> we will absolutely be doing that. steve: joe, thank you very much. we're going to step aside, more in a minute. i pop that in there. press brew. that's it. look how much coffee's in here? fresh coffee. so rich. i love it. that's why you should be a keurig man! full-bodied. are you sure you're describing the coffee and not me? do you wear this every day? everyday. i'd never take it off. are you ready to say goodbye to it? go! go! ta da! a terrarium. that's it. we brewed the love, right guys? (all) yes.
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but we know a lot about drama. we also know that you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so go, know, and take control of your health. it could save your life. cigna. together, all the way. steve: the white house sent to congress the opening bid on the dreamer act. it is very clear the white house wants the wall. >> this is exactly what the base wants, and it also speaks to the issue of law and order. ames auction vice president mike pence taking a stand, walking out of yesterday's colts game in end that lis. >> the vice president loves the game of football. it's unfortunate this was where the game is going. >> stephen paddock's brother is now in las vegas talking to the fbi, trying to help them find out the motive. >> we were tripping over guns, tripping over long guns inside. >> could there have been any law passed that would have stopped him? >> no. >> right now there are reports of people hiding inside of their wineries in northern california. >> we're in survival mode.
don't take any chances, that's from the sheriffs across the police scanner. >> president trump takes a hatchet to obamacare regulations. >> small businesses will be able to band together and buy insurance together which brings down the rates that they pay. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ steve: remember when darius rucker was a blowpush? he used to fill in on "fox & friends." ainsley: he did? he's from south carolina, and he still loves the state. he didn't get too big for his britches, sings at some of the games, when they opened up a new journalism school at the university, he was there with a
concert. steve: he keeps coming back. some of them never come back, but at least darius -- ainsley: i learned all their songs before they became famous because they were a big band in my hometown, and i had a recorded cassette of another cassette of another cassette, because they hadn't had an album yet. it was awful. but the music's so good. steve: thank you for joining us, today is monday, and it is columbus day. of it's a federal holiday, and a lot of stuff is closed today. before you head off, check it out. ainsley: don't you hate that when you go to the post office on a holiday, and you forgot? steve: it's closed! brian: normally when you get to the post office, you're in and out so quickly. [laughter] let's talk about president trump because he's not waiting for tax reform to get through and not looking back at what went wrong with health care, he's pushing immigration reforms and saying, listen, before we deal with daca, with these 800,000 kids who came here young and now are in their 20s and maybe 30s,
let's understand that we have to do immigration right. and it has a lot to do with border control and immigration control when it comes to enforcing those who might be heading our direction. steve: right. and so remember the president just famously, just a month or two ago said, okay, we're going to put the daca program on hold. congress has got to figure it out. yesterday the white house sent to congress a 70-point plan, 70 things that the president has talked about during the campaign and various congressional leaders have wanted. is it a take it or leave it? no, this is the opening bid on trying to figure out if you want those dreamer kids to stay here, these are some of the things i want. ainsley: building the border wall, he wants the hire 10,000 i.c.e. officers and 600 prosecutors, mandatory e-verify and a new points-based system for green cards based on merit and not on your family connections.
brian: right. he wants to make sure something that was done in 2006 when they gave money to building a wall or a fence and they didn't, ronald reagan said, listen, i'll give amnesty to the three million here, and then we're going to enforce the border, they never did. he goes, this time we're going to do all this stuff first and then deal with daca on top of that, but he does need 60 votes. they're going to have to compromise, but in the end, they're going to end catch and release, 10,000 i.c.e. officers and 300 federal prosecutors because they want to get people who are overstaying their visas, also stop this thing where if you're in central america, some weird thing in 2008 that was signed into law that if you're here, you yet to stay. you get a ticket to appear again, but basically you get amnesty. that's what caused this whole influx. steve: the number one item though is the wall. unlike what congress has talked about doing and giving to hem in the current budget -- to him in the current budget, he is asking for money to completely build
the whole wall, not just a little part, the whole wall. keep in mind, apparently many of the proposals have been -- many of the items on the 70-point list have been passed by the house, but they have gotten hung up in the senate because they don't have enough votes. brian: so we talked to a white house official who are dead set on doing this, they've already briefed leadership in both branches, in both houses, and they also want to say this: this is going to come forward, it's going to be part of daca, but in many ways it's a distraction from comprehensive immigration reform which people run from. but they believe they would not have won that election unless those 30-plus states wanted this immigration reform put into play. and when people say it's hard-line, they believe that hard-line is the open borders that hillary clinton wants and congressman gutierrez professes. this is just america first. ainsley: yeah. i think people are worried about security, they want to make sure the borders are safe and we're not all paying for people who are here illegally, bottom line.
last night, sunday, yesterday was sunday, of course, you probably were watching games, and the vice president decided to go to indianapolis because they were retiring peyton manning's number. so he goes to see the game. you know, he's from that a state, and he wants to support the team. and the 49ers, they had 23 of their players that took a knee, the most of any of the nfl teams, and the vice president didn't like it. he decided to leave. steve: he did. vice president pence tweeted out: i left today's colts' game with because the president and i will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our flag or the national anthem. and the president tweeted: i asked vice president pence to leave the stadium if any players kneel, 20 some did, disrespecting our country. i am proud of him and second karen lady -- [laughter] you know what? somebody just said the president has just tweeted again regarding this, and if we have the brand new tweet, we can go ahead and put it up on the screen right
now. it says our country has been unsuccessfully -- oh, look at that. that's something else on north korea. we put the wrong one up. ainsley: do you want me to look at twitter and see what he wrote? steve: anyway, keep in mind there are some on the political left who have said, look, this is a big pr state. he left las vegas, flew there and apparently the white house poolers were told be ready, he may leave. he may leave early. ainsley: here's his tweet. steve: i'll have you read that in just a second. keep in mind, this particular event was on the schedule for weeks, it wasn't until last week that they decided to go to las vegas. ainsley: some people were saying it was a political move, that he just planned this, he knew they were going to kneel, and this was just a pr move of so they could make him look like a hero for leaving. the president just tweeted and said the trip by vice president pence was long planned. he is receiving great praise for leaving game after the players showed such disrespect for
country. you can see it's just retweeted, retreat tweeted. brian: so jerry jones of the cowboys has been on the phone with the president two weeks ago, and they were the ones that came up with this idea that before the game they would kneel, when the national anthem started, they would stand. many people thought that was the way forward. jerry jones just made it clear, when it comes to standing for the national anthem, you'll do it or you won't play. listen. >> we cannot, in the nfl, in any way give the implication that we tolerate disrespect to the flag. we cannot do that. and i know the vice president did leave because, in his opinion, we -- the teams were. we know that there is a serious debate in this country about those issues, but there is no question in my mind that the
national football league and the dallas cowboys are going to stand up for the flag. there is no equivocation, we'll stand for the flag. if there's anything that is disrespectful to the flag, then we will not play. brian: he did have a player put his fist in the air though, and he said i didn't see that after the game. cowboys did lose in a crushing defeat to the packers. steve: well, the miami dolphins' other than, steve ross, wants the players to stand, and those who didn't want to had to stay in the locker room or the tunnel, and yesterday three players stood in the tunnel until they were finished with the anthem, and then they ran out. ainsley: so it's not a visual, they're just not out there. brian brian meanwhile, we asked you for what you think. we got this from mike, just imagine the fallout if all the fans walked out with the vp. they are talking about an organized walkout on veterans day weekend, november 11th. steve: lou e-mailed: let them
kneel in empty stadiums. ainsley: right. remember why you get those paychecks. this is an e-mail, nfl equals nonpatriotic football league. i'm not watching. brian: tony says what part of national football league do they not understand? maybe they should create the me first league. colin kaepernick, there's a story that says if somebody signs me, i'll stand. his girlfriend says, no, he never said he was going to stand. he's still working out in new jersey hoping for a call. steve: and is it looks as if it could be having an impact. the win stop group did -- winston group did a poll that showed football is now our least favorite of the major sports. number one? baseball. brian: i'm sure that that's not true. i would love to see another look at that. football is by far the most poppe -- popular --
ainsley: i mean, i'm a football person. i always have been. this year, this is just a different aspect. i think a lot of people are trying to figure out how they feel. do i watch? i don't believe -- steve: the football polls went down 31 points just in the last month or to so. >> and just to update you, brown did raise his fist in the area, so he's the first in the nhl. we do want to begin with a fox fuse alert. california, raging fires forcing evacuations in california's wine country. it's so bad the napa county sheriff issuing the warning to his crew, he says we are in survival mode. don't take any chances. windy and dry conditions are fueling the flames with wind gusts up to 50 miles per hour in some areas. harvey weinstein's film company may not bear his name anymore, the company he co-founded with his brother, will change its name.
known as one of the most powerful men in hollywood, he was fired over accusations he sexually harassed female coworkers for decades. president trump and senator bob corker in a war of words on twitter. the attacks after the tennessee republican criticized the president's cabinet. senator corker tweeting, quote: it's a shame the white house has become an adult daycare center. someone obviously missed their shift this morning. and the president responding by saying, quote: bob corker gave us the iran deal, and that's about it. we need health care, we need tax cuts and reform, we need people that can get the job done. we'll get counselor kellyanne conway's take on this when she joins us live in the next hour. back to you guys. steve: some people were wondering yesterday why would the president say the initial tweet about bob corker, it looks like there's an item in "the washington post" yesterday talking about fiscal responsibility and how the republicans have let it go, and the president didn't like it and, boom, next thing you know, a tweet war.
brian ryan whatever bob corker thought, he could have done it personally and privately. they golf together. so to go public with these critiques, i think it's self-serving. iowans eaps disrespectful. brian: president trump tweeting about north korea, saying decades of policy and billions of dollars are not working. general jack keane is next. steve: plus, this wanted man issued a challenge to police on facebook. how did that work out for that guy? stick around. ♪ ♪ fact. people spend less time lying awake with aches and pains with advil pm than with tylenol pm. advil pm combines the number one pain reliever with the number one sleep aid. gentle, non-habit forming advil pm. for a healing night's sleep. ♪ hungry eyes
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clear. the administration has set this end state out right from the beginning, and they haven't moved from it, and that is to denuclearize north korea. it's not stuff to stop miniaturizing -- sufficient to stop miniaturizing nuclear weapons to put on icbms, you must get red of all nuclear weapons. this takes us back pre-2005 as an end state. their strategy is to isolate north korea and apply maximum pressure, and they began that strategy, brian, the first week of the administration when secretary mattis was sent to the far east, and he told our allies in the far east that the military option was back on the table. and then the rest of the national security team to include the vice president and the president began to convince our allies and also north korea and china that we were serious about the military action because obama never was. and then the president had some good fortune, and it was assad
conducting a horrific attack on his own people with chemical weapons on the very weekend president xi was visiting mar-a-lago. and at that point the chinese president knew he had a different president in the white house, and things changed. brian: 20 nations have curbed diplomatic or business operations, and they're starting to end the whole let north koreans work here and mail money back, so they're starting to curb it in the middle east. the president says only one thing will work, what does he mean? >> well, there's a couple things here. i don't know what he means because i'm not inside his head. and, obviously, he has information that none of the rest of us have. but the reality is this: the economic noose is tightening around north korea, and you just gave some evidence of it.
countries are shutting down north korea's embassies in their country, china is cutting off doing business with north korea with the chinese banks. that is the most significant progress. if the chinese carry this through and we're in the beginning stages of it, it's that most significant progress any president has ever had in dealing with this issue on north korea. so this economic noose is tightening. what kim jong un is doing is racing to get this capability before his country pays an economic price. he believes that the united states will acquiesce if he has that capability. he's dead wrong because he's not dealing with obama, he's dealing with trump. brian: japan says they fully back the president's hard line, and we know there's going to be a visit to china in november by the president, they know they have to get this out of the way. i look nor them to -- for them to follow through on that, otherwise that's all the president will talk about. general keane, thank you so much. this volunteer firefighter and his two children were killed
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j.j. watt fracturing his left leg and new york giants' wide receiver odell beckham jr. break his ankle. our thoughts are with those guys. steve, down to you. steve: thank you very much, ainsley. the story is horrific and hard to hear, a texas father and his two young children killed at the hands of someone who was in this country illegally who we just learned will basically get a slap on the wrist for those three precious lives lost. he was sentenced to only to two years in jail. their heartbroken mother joined "fox & friends" on saturday fighting for justice so that other families don't have to go through what she's going through. >> for some reason it seems to me that they feel that he should have some sort of special circumstances and he should be treated differently because he is an illegal immigrant. i want to see those laws enforced, and i want to see stricter punishment. steve: let's bring in the texas attorney general, ken paxton
joins us from austin. mr. attorney general, why did this guy only get two years? >> you know, it's one of those things i think our laws in texas need to be stricter for this, and i think, you know, we've been dealing with this for years, sanctuary cities trying to prevent people come coming into our state illegally. i don't think the penalties are strong enough. steve: i read in one of the local news sources down there in dallas that a criminal defense attorney said a longer sentence would have required proving an intent to kill. this was the situation where this guy, who was in the country illegally, fell asleep behind the wheel of a vehicle, drifted over and killed the family, right? >> that's correct. you know, people say this doesn't have consequences, illegal immigration. we've been tracking statistics in texas for six years through our state police, we've had over 600,000 crimes including 1200 homicides, 6,000 sexual assaults, and here we go again. how many of these stories do we have to have before we address
this issue? i am thankful that the president is making a senate impact here. steve: your problem is the fact that this person who was in this country illegally was driving without a license, right? >> that's correct. and my problem is also that this is only a two-year sentence. when you look at what happened to this woman, she lost both of her children, she lost her husband, and the remedy is really a two-year sentence? steve: i understand you told one of our producers over the weekend during the pre-interview that to you it feels like the court has more empathy for an illegal alien than they have for that family that lost those three people right there. >> you know, it often seems that way. the real issue here is the penalty and what kinds of penalties we're going to have for people who are here illegally. the consequences for our state are dramatic, and i think the legislature needs to address in the next time they meet. steve: well, that's the texas legislature behind you, but you also told our producer that you are thankful we have a president
who is trying to do more to enforce immigration to this cup than any other -- to this country than any other president in american history. >> that's correct. for 2 years, i was in -- 12 years i was in the legislature, my state spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to stop illegal immigration. we had our hands tied by the federal government, and finally we have a president that's allowing border security to do their job. i've talked to these guys on the border, and they are grateful, and you can see the results. illegal immigration is coming down dramatically, and i think it's a result of what this administration and what the president trump administration has sought to do. steve: our lead story this morning is that yesterday the administration sent over to congress a 70-point plan saying, okay, you want the dreamer program to continue and/or at least for the dreamers in this country to wind up with some sort of a path to citizenship, then you're going to have to meet our 70 needs. and one of them, the first one is building the wall. and it's not just part of the wall, it is the whole wall.
what do you make of what you have read from the administration regarding how they want to deal with this situation? >> look, i'm really encouraged by this. as i've said for decades, we've been dealing with this issue of crime, you know, illegal crossings, the impact on our economy, the cost to the state that we can't account for. so the fact that the president's pushing hard on this, he promised it, and he's doing it unlike i said, like any president we've ever had in the history of our country. so i think most texans are grateful. steve: he is the attorney general for the great state of texas, ken paxton, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. have a great day. steve: meanwhile, we just learned from the fbi they are now apparently interviewing the brother of the las vegas shooter. we'll have details on that coming up next. plus, this wanted man issued a challenge to police on social media. how'd that work out for him? stick around, you're watching "fox & friends." it's columbus day here in new york city.
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on his hotel nightstand. >> i did notice a note on the nightstand near his shooting platform. i could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was going to be for those, for the crowd. so he had, had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there. >> reporter: after continuing to talk to paddock's girlfriend, marilou danley, authorities searched his home here in nevada for the second time this weekend. it comes as steve wynn told chris wallace on "fox news sunday" that a paddock and danley frequented his hotels over the years. >> if there's anything interesting that stood out over the six years, nobody that's ever worked here has ever seen the gentleman or the lady take a drink of wine, beer or alcohol of any kind.
now, a lot of people don't drink. but considering the frequency of all the restaurants and their behavior as normal tourists taking advantage of everything that's available in our resort, they never, ever imbibed in any liquor. >> reporter: all of the hotels timed their lights for exactly -- dimmed their lights for exactly 11 minutes, the exact time of the shooting seven days ago. it's one of many touching tributes we've seen over the past week. back to you. steve: will carr live outside mandalay bay, thank you very much. we heard from the police officers on "60 minutes" last night, they saw that room service cart with the cameras on it, they saw the wires, they didn't think camera, they thought it's booby trapped. >> right. and that's why they waited for s.w.a.t. to get there. but the security guard didn't, and he got there, took a bullet and then ended up alerting the shooter who ended up killing himself thinking the end was
coming, so he wanted to take his own life. if that security gird didn't do what he did -- ainsley: they didn't know what they were going to the find when they walked into that room. because the fire alarms had gone off, all of the sirens and flashing red lights were going off, and they walked into a darkroom, they said it was very eerie. steve they figured there must be 50 other guys in here, it can't just be that 60-year-old guy right there. there's also an article that given the head shot that he took, it looked like to some commenters that he may have actually shot himself accidentally. in which case would suggest we heard from the sheriff last week that he had an exit plan. still trying to put it all together. ainsley: all right, let's hand it over to gillian who has headlines for us. >> reporter: let's begin with this, antifa is calling for chaos on this columbus day. the radical, far-left group urging supporters to deface any statue in the country honoring
explorer christopher columbus. the supervisor of one long island town joined us earlier asking his community to take a stand. >> what these organizations are doing to try to deface columbus statues is un-american, and it's outrageous, and i'm asking people to be on the lookout today. if they see any of this going on, shoot pictures and video and call the police. we have to come together and send a very strong message of just how wrong it is. >> reporter: the supervisor says his town will welcome all unwanted columbus statues. the founder of blackwater may run for senate. sources telling the associate press it's part of an insurgency against the republican establishment led by former white house strategist steve bannon. he's a senior member of the republican leadership team who is challenged would likely have the backing of majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> dove apologizing for a
controversial advertisement many people are calling racist. finish the soap company coming under fire for a facebook video showing black woman turning into a white woman after taking her shirt off. now, the company says the intention was to show dove soap is for everyone, but the critics say it's a throwback to soap ads like this from the 1800s depicting a black man turning white while he's being scrubbed. a wanted man challenges police on facebook, promising to turn himself in they get a thousand shares and the public delivers. the man messaged redford police west of detroit that he'd throw in some doughnuts and promised to pick up trash around schools if he got the numbers. the post has more than 3,000 shares, but mr. champagne -- that's, i guess, what he's calling himself -- hasn't turned himself in just yet. police say he's wanted on several warrants, so there you have it. steve: is that his real name, mr. champagne? >> reporter: i'm sure that's what he's calling himself, i'm
not sure. [laughter] brian: amesly, you have some exciting news. ainsley: on tuesday my new book comes out, and it's called through your eyes: my child's gift to me k and i'm really excited. it's available on presale right now. and you can officially find it in the bookstores next tuesday -- brian: do you know where you're going to be going? ainsley: we have a list, and i've put it on my social media, but i'm going to be in new jersey on monday, new york, long island on tuesday, wednesday brooklyn, thursday connecticut and friday, saturday, sunday i'm touring in south carolina, my home state. i'll be in myrtle beach on friday, my hometown of columbia and fiction addiction in greenville, south carolina. brian: fiction addiction? ainsley: they're addicted to fiction. brian brian where do we get that if we missed that or we're driving around in our tractor-trailer? ainsley: ainsley earhart books.com and also on my social
media. brian: show the back side. steve: it's beautiful. ainsley: pasha is a photographer down in south carolina, and if you live in the charleston area, he can come to you. he is amazing, so talented. thank you, beautiful little girl. the first book was ming me to teach her lessons, but i've learned so much -- steve: wait until they're 20. ainsley: i'm sure. you learn about life, you have all these things planned, and then you throw that out the window. brian: can i ask you a question? on this, have you thrown her and caught her, or are you lifting her -- [laughter] ainsley: i'm just lifting her. i don't think i've thrown her and caught her. i've thrown her into the pillows on my bed. she loves that. oh, there's hayden. that was us going to a class. steve: that's great. congratulations. ainsley: thank you so much. thanks for y'all's support, y'all are awesome.
brian: one week from tomorrow. ainsley: yeah. and your book comes out the next tuesday. you need a book to come out so the three of us can tour together. steve: there you go. good chance to go out and meet the folks. ainsley: that's right. brian: the left slamming vice president mike pence for walking out of the colts' game after players protested the anthem, but david webb says he did exactly the right thing. ainsley: and she didn't stand for the pledge, so she was expel from her school, and now she is suing. did she get what she deserved, or does she have a case? we're going to debate it coming up. ♪ ♪
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steve: some quick headlines for you. first up, blade runner an update, blade runner 2049 falling flat at the box office this weekend, the big budget sequel only pulling in $31.5 million. the film cost $150 million to make. meanwhile, "star wars" fans will want to tune into monday night football. ♪ ♪ >> now, reach out. steve: the trailer for the last jedi will debut during halftime on espn tonight. advance tickets will go on sale right after it airs. it's going to heat theaters on the sawth day of -- the 15th day of december. ainsley: that's going to do well. vice president taking a stand, walking out of the colts' game in indianapolis after nearly two dozen san francisco 49ers took a
knee during the anthem. brian brian he tweeted: potus and i will not dig dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our federal or or -- flag or or anthem. steve: democrats are already saying, hey, how much did this publicity stunt cost us. >> well, let's see, it cost the american people nothing because the vice president and the president elected to serve our nation, lead our nation, stand for the constitution, the flag and defend the nation, did what they should do which is not stand for disrespecting the flag when players take a knee. you know, let's pause for a moment and take a breath here, guys, because this started with colin kaepernick in a protest against police officers and the shootings of blacks. well, in that case let me say this to the nfl players who want to do this, turn around, take a
knee to the police who stand there on the sidelines at every game and protect you. take a knee when you walk out of the stadium and they stand there to make sure that some nut job doesn't run out of the crowd against you. instead they're disrespecting the flag. and i don't care what party you're from, what side you're from. american people, whether you look at the history of burning the flag, your first amendment rights, your right toss protest in any way, americans, by and large, see that as disrespectful to the flag. mr. vice president, thank you for standing up. brian: well, we have two owners in particular, the giants' owner asked the players to stand two, didn't. jerry jones says if you don't stand, you're not playing. and steven raz -- ross is going the same way, and the dolphins stood. some say the vice president made it worse because this thing was petering out. what do you say to them? >> they'd like to say it made it worse. i'd say it made it more in line with americans. after all, jerry jones, the
dallas cowboys, i'm a giants fan, so kudos to jerry on this one. they call themselves america's team. well, if you're america's team, how do you not stand for america's flag in and on top of that when you look at the fact that he's making the rules, he's making it clear you play for this team, you have your rights, but on this team i set a set of rules just like you and i have rules at work. anyone watching, we all have rules at work, these are the rules. ainsley: dade, what does the flag mean to you? brian reminded us that you served our country. >> i say this for anyone whether you raise your right hand or not, how many of you remember that moment -- i was a young kid, i was barely 18 when i took that oath, and i claim no great battles, no great function, but i remember that moment because i didn't know what was going to happen to me. but i knew that i wanted to serve this country. and for anyone out there whether it's putting your happened over
your heart when you go to class or all the things -- i remember that pride that we felt. nobody argued when i was in grammar school, in high school about putting our hands over our heart. nobody argued about standing for the flag. we did it because it was a sense of respect that started with the pledge. wroip broin but they take a knee because there's racial injustice in this country. don't you feel that way? >> that they take a three because there's racial finish take a knee because there's racial injustice? brian: that's why colin kaepernick says he took a knee, because of racial injustice in the country. >> so go back to my earlier point. if you really want to protest that and your target is the police in this country, turn around and take a knee in front of that police officer. you don't -- i get it. you're right to dispute, to protest, to take a knee, that's not in question. your responsibility is what are you really doing. and by the way, colin kaepernick
now apparently says i'll stand -- brian: no, he's not going to. that was an erroneous report. ainsley: i read that too, but brian said they talked to his girlfriend -- >> okay, i stand corrected. steve: david webb, thank you very much for your point of view, joining us from miami. cains iowans thanks for serving our country. brian: we're going to get kellyanne conway's reaction to the vice president's move at the top of the hour as well as the bob corker kerfuffle over the weekend. ainsley: i like that word. plus, a teenager refused to stand for the pledge, so she was expelled from the school, and now she's suing the school district. do you think she has a case? we're going to debate it coming up. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ainsley: a texas high schooler now suing after getting expelled for sit ising during the pledge of a-- sitting during the pledge of allegiance. >> i don't think that the flag is what it says it's for, for liberty and for justice ask and and all that. it's not, obviously, what's going on in america today. ainsley: does she have a case? here to debate is lawrence jones along with democratic strategist michael hopkins. thanks for being with us. lawrence, i'll start with you. are you siding with the school or the little girl? >> well, i'm not sure from a legal standpoint especially when schools decided that they took prayer out of cool and there was some case law, i'm not sure from the legalities. but i think we're missing the point in our culture. i think there's a lot of virtual signaling on both -- ainsley: what is virtue signaling? what do you mean? >> well, you know, taking a knee or, you know, all these virtues when we should really be teaching our kids what the flag actually represents, and that
really means the ideals of america. and when america, when you feel like there's injustice, you can also speak out against that, but you don't necessarily have to disrespect those that serve. ainsley: michael, she says she doesn't -- she goes, the pledge goes against everything that she believes in, so do you think it's okay for her to sitsome. >> i think legally she absolutely has a constitutional right to sit. the court in tinker v. des moines stated that students don't leave their first amendment rights at the door when they walk into schools and that they absolutely have a right to voice their first amendment rights as long as it doesn't substantially or materially interfere with the school's ability to function. and here, you know, americans may not agree with what she did, but she absolutely has the right to do so. and i think that, you know, it's not popular, but our laws aren't popularity contests. ames airports lawrence -- >> but shouldn't we be -- ainsley: go ahead. >> i remember frederick douglass in 1852, and during that time
black folks were actually slaves, shouldn't we be talking about the ideals of america? because the ideals of america isn't injustice, it's the constitution, it's the flag, it's what we represent as a nation to fight against injustice. so when we have our kids kneeling before the flag and saying, hey, we're upset with the country, that's one thing. but to actually disrespect it, i think, is a different thing. ainsley: michael? >> i'm not sure what slavery or frederick douglass has to do with this -- >> because black folks were slaves back then. >> and they couldn't use their first amendment rights back then. respecting the flag and also teaching them to stand up against things they disagree with and voicing their opinions and respecting the constitution is something all americans can do. i think this is something we can all learn from. ainsley: she was expelled on a friday, she came back -- or maybe it was a monday, and then came back on a friday because the teacher said, you know what? i've heard both sides, i am going to allow you to sit down.
she's still suing the school district, so we'll keep you posted. lawrence, michael, thanks so much for joining us. we'll be right back. kellyanne conway congresswoman coming up.
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that's coming across the police scanner right now. >> economic news is tightening around north korea. that's the most significant progress any president has ever had in dealing with this issue. ♪ ♪ ♪ ainsley: i choose all the music around here. macklemore. steve: live from new york city, take a look. it's a federal holiday but kellyanne conway and the president of the united states working. ainsley: last time you were here, your phone was ringing. remember? >> very special guest. my boss.
brian: so much going on. people are focused on tax reform. people saying that's up next. a big let down. now all of a sudden immigration is a big center. but last night, i think over the weekend it has become clear. the administration wants to take the lead on this. >> yes. and last night, we had an open press call. many people invited to that. we'll see if the press is covering it today because it's a huge immigration proposal. yes, it deals with daca, which of course is on the minds of many democrats and some republicans. but it also deals with the president's first priorities, which is to keep us all safe and secure. it would have 300 new immigration judges. 1 you ice agents because one of the major challenges we still have is what to do with folks who are trying to cross the border illegally. we also want the safe return of children who are coming over unaccompanied. unaccompanied minors. we want them to come home safely and securely. we also. the to build the border wall.
full construction of the border wall. funding for it. we're going to limit chain spouses to children because it's not fair for the american worker. for years, this country, including capitol hill and the swamp, they always ask what more can we do for the illegal immigrant? this president is asking what's fair to the american worker? what's fair to the american community? steve: so yesterday, the white house sent a 70-point plan and said these things are on our list, including complete construction of the wall. not just a hunk of it. you're not going to get all 70. so this is really the opening bid. democrats, you want the daca dreamer program, this is what we want with national security. >> well, how long it has been a multilayered challenge for this nation, how long it has been ignored. talking about looking the other way at something so critically important. also, this particular legislative package was done in concert with department of homeland security, department of justice, health and human
services, department of labor. there are many different agencies and departments. brian: border patrol. >> of course. and we had representatives of many of those departments and agencies on the phone call last night along with our legislative team so that anybody who wanted to ask questions could. what i think is remarkable about a major legislative initiative being put forth by the president of the united states and his administration to congress. instead, they want to continue to cover intrigue. brian: and this is what chuck schumer said. we are open to reasonable border security. but this list goes so far beyond what is reasonable. >> well, i would like to know what chuck schumer think so is reasonable because you almost every day, every week, certainly, have somebody on who has lost loved ones because an illegal immigrant has murdered them or killed them or i've stood shoulder to shoulder. i've met these families. the president, more importantly, has acknowledged them. and if we would just enforce the laws that exist. if we would stop providing
sanctuary to folks who have been deported multiple times, broken the law multiple times. if we would lift up the american worker, raise their pay. if we would make sure that simple things. what's reasonable is to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and also of the drugs coming over the border. the president has been very clear about that too. all the drugs coming over the border has to stop as well. and i would like to know what senator schumer think so is reasonable when we just see the statistics alone in terms of people ignoring the law. brian: it's bigger than that. >> our border patrol agents, they don't have enough resources. brian: there's 33,000 unaccompanied minors this year alone. >> it's dangerous for them. ainsley: what about the dreamers? many people watching this morning worried that they're going to be sent home. he met with them a few weeks ago, and they were trying to work out a compromise. he said i'll let the dreamers stay possibly if you give me
funding for the entire wall. we want to build the whole wall. what's the message for the dreamers watching who are fearful that they're going to be deported? >> listen to what the president said. he said he's open to a deal. open to figuring out a way to have a broader immigration policy that certainly addresses daca, the so-called dreamer program. but along with all of these other critical programs. so they should actually be calling their friends chuck and nancy and say, you know, are you going to give up this deal? why don't you want a border wall constructed? why don't you want more immigration judges and agents? and why is it a reasonable policy to limit chain migration? and also to stop these visa overstays and to make sure people that are flaunting the law. steve: he was the governor of the great state of indiana. mike pence returned home for
the indianapolis colts and the 49ers game. as it turns out, a couple dozen members of the san francisco 49ers took a knee during the anthem, and the president tweeted out i asked vice president pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespected our country. i'm proud of him and second lady karen. and then adam schiff of the great state of california said out of all the scandals involving travel, how much taxpayer money was wasted on this stunt? that seems to be a political talking point. this was a political stunt. he had been in las vegas, went to indianapolis to make this statement. >> well, peyton manning was being honored before the game. let me tell you something. i've known the vice president and mrs. pence for a decade. i worked them for a decade. it takes a lot to get that man's blood boiling. and to refer to someone who's standing up for the flag and all it represents to hundreds
of millions of americans and all it signals to the world, our veterans, our unity, the sounding of our great nation to call that a political stunt is truly outrageous, egregious, and offensive. brian: it was on the books already; right? >> it was on the books. but let me just say this. when mike pence was the governor of indiana, there were many times that he had to receive, go in and comfort the family of a fallen soldier. he was helping receive the remains of the brave men and women. and those coffins are always draped in a flag. and this is a man who says he doesn't think it's too much to stand. i want to give a little lighthearted note here. legendary sportscaster said on twitter last night that somehow since these 49ers have started this, they've won two games. so maybe they should take a knee in the other game's end zone. and did you see in the prompter, steve, the giants are 0-5? brian: why would you say that? and you know i went to a game
yesterday. >> because i'm an eagles fan. brian: and the interim executive producer, he's a giant fan. >> i want to say something. we keep on focusing on the very few, the handful of folks who can be the knee, who raise their first. let's talk about -- especially to our children watching. let's talk about the next generation, what the flag means. we're talking about why protesters, they're coming together to be. ainsley: what does the flag mean? >> the flag, i still think it's the most cohesive, unifying symbol in our nation at a time we feel divided ideologically and geographically. and i was with my daughter and her friend, and you go somewhere like that, and the flag is everywhere. i don't know everybody's politics, about his them walking down the street holding the flag. steve: when did the vice president and the president talk about doing this? >> well, they talk about this every day.
steve: last week? >> well, hold on. they've talked about -- they talk every day, and they certainly have talked about this issue. and as you -- brian said, the vice president and the second lady go into the colts game that has been on the books for a very long time. steve: since las vegas has happened. >> what they do is discuss up coming travel. the vice president and the second lady were in puerto rico, for example. ainsley: so instead of canceling, he knew he was going to have to leave. the vice president knew he was going to have to leave. steve: well, the polls are on their side. most americans say they stand for the flag and all it represents. i'm just not going to disparage the brave men and women in the uniform. brian: and obviously peyton manning's number only because itgets retired once. now let's talk about what's going on with the president of the united states. these two were once good
friends. this is what corker says. it's a shame that the white house has become an adult day care center. this after a twitter exchange. what a demeaning tweet at the president. >> well, it is and world leaders see that. we've all worked with senator corker over the years. we thanked him for his service. but i find tweets like this to be incredibly irresponsible. and as to the insulting that the mainstream media and the president almost a year after this election, they still can't accept the election results. it adds to their ability and their cover to speak about the president of the united states in ways that no president should be talked about. and also, i prefer to expect myself privately. brian: and here's a relationship with the president. >> he was in the white house two weeks ago for a private meeting. so that door has been opened. relying upon senator corker, but so are the people of tennessee for him to get big
things done in the remaining time of his tenure. i think comments like this are less helpful than saying i don't like x, y, z, but i support the president on tax reform. we're going to look at the iran deal. you know, conservatives have not really forgiven bob corker i am not he actually passed a referendum that allowed it to pass without votes in the senate. >> that's right. and the iran deal by many accounts, including this president who ran against the former secretary state in part on the iran deal, and it's looking very seriously at it. right now, as the certification process comes through again. but this president has said since the beginning, it's a bad deal. they paid blood money for these hostages. and the fact is that this president has to work with senator corker. but conservatives are very
upset with senator corker for allowing that to go to a vote. and, look, i just am -- i know i'm very public. i go on tv, et cetera. i speak on behalf of th the president, but i still come from a background where you express yourself. and this president has the most open door policy to our senators and members of congress that i think anybody has ever seen. but what this does too is look at what the mainstream media are covering. this is the hot story instead of the 70-point immigration plan. what's next. ainsley: bob corker needs to look at the approval generating. >> well, it's in the tank. because, look, they've got -- they finally had their chance. to have a president who is willing to sign into law all of these things you've been voting on for years. and they just ought to pass a couple of things already. steve: thank you for joining us on this federal holiday. >> thank you. steve: do you get overtime? >> no. steve: okay. coming up on this monday, all bets are off
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alabama and indiana. but that boat belongs to a woman hadder and her fiancé. she is living overseas. she noticed a local reporter tweeting, showing that boat on facebook and said, hey, i think that's my boat. the local news outlet is reporting that she's making plans to try to travel up here and assess some of the damage. but apparently, she and her fiancé normally live on this boat right here. about half a mile from where we're standing are a number of casinos. one casino that took a lot of water, particularly in their lobby is the golden nugget casino and hotel. storm surge came into that lobby there, cleared out, and we're told there's actually relatively little lasting damage inside that casino. but that is one of at least three casinos that have some sort of flooding for a lot of other places. the flooding took place in the parking deck.
this is the first hurricane to hit mississippi since hurricane katrina back in 2005. >> we did not dodge a bullet in this city. we got hit head on at night by category 1 storm. if that same storm would have hit us 15 years ago, the damage would have been much more extensive. >> steve, ainsley, and brian, that's what officials here in mississippi keep referring to. they said we did a whole lot of work after that hit us, and that's why things aren't nearly as bad as they could have been. back to you guys. ainsley: so they learned from history. from the past. steve: they did, indeed. ainsley: thanks. steve: straight ahead, saturday night live turning into a lecture on guns. >> can't hit what you're shooting with six bullets, then you don't need to be shooting at it. learn karate or use your words. steve: karate or use your words. nra national spokesperson dana loesch here to talk about
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known as one of the most powerful men in hollywood, weinstein was fired from the company over accusations he sexually harassed female coworkers for decades. and cities across the country are planning to protest on this columbus day. activists in new york city promising to shut down the parade saying explorer christopher columbus doesn't deserve the honor. >> dozens of cities will instead be celebrating indigenous people's day. steve: all right. thank you. punch lines get political on saturday night live turned into a late night lecture on guns. >> no. you're not allowed to have 40 guns anymore. from now on, you can have one gun. max. and six bullets. if you can't hit what you're shooting with six bullets, then you don't need to be shooting at it. learn karate or use your words. steve: here with reaction to
saturday night live on this monday morning, we've got national nra spokesperson dana loesch joining us from dallas today. good morning to you. >> steve, good morning to you. steve: so you don't need guns. just learn karate or use your words. >> yeah. karate or words. i'm certainly not going to take any kind of firearm lecture from people who clearly don't either own them or have never fired them and don't even understand the concept of self-defense either. this idea that you're going to have a six-round limit. and then they compare them to stats, steve. because, you know, people all over the united states every day successfully defend hire life using cats. steve: well, one of the things he brought up, and i've heard a number of people from the political left talk about is the number of guns. i've heard them say i can't believe the guy had 30 guns or 40 guns, or whatever the number is. you know, something i would ask them is what is the correct number of guns any american can have? because i haven't heard anybody say an american should
only have blank number of guns or one gun or no guns. i've actually heard a lot of people say no guns. >> right. well, yeah. i'm curious to see how they proposed that to work because you would need firearms to go door-to-door to houses all over the united states. millions of americans and confiscate said firearms. and through that part, steve, there are millions of americans all throughout the country that own multiple firearms. and some of them, yes, even own 40 firearms. and you know what? they've been owning these 40 firearms for decades and millions of law-abiding americans who have not done anything. firearm owners, concealed carriers, they're the most law-abiding group. and that's the thing. evil lives among us. and i've said this before. it's real. you have to deal with evil. and i certainly want to be prepared to deal with evil on or a monster with the ability to defend myself as opposed to not having that ability to defend myself. and people like michael who do their show over at snl in a building where they have armed
security, they have the luxury of being able to tell everybody else to disarm. these individuals can afford private security. they work in a building that's armed guards, and you know they wouldn't go one single day without this armed guards. why don't you give up the firearms that your private security is holding. you're not being more virtuous because you're paying somebody else to carry it. you're outsourcing it. steve: did you see dianne feinstein was on one of the chat shows yesterday. and she asked. are there any laws that would have prevented what happened in las vegas? and she said "no." >> yeah. she said "no" because -- and i can't even believe me words -- my mouth is making these words. she was right on that. there's nothing that could have been done, unfortunately, to prevent this tragedy. you know, and i know that this investigation is on going, and i don't want to get ahead of the law enforcement that's involved in this right now. but usually with individuals like these, there are some sort of red flags, and i'm just curious as to what sort of red flags that this individual was putting out. i mean, he look at james
hodgekinson immediately after that tragedy, no one really knew his mo, and it took a while for that information to come out that he was targeting on political ideology. but then people started talking about the red flags that were popping up about this guy. and sooner or later, the truth will out. steve: right. exactly. all of those people who knew this guy can't figure out what those red flags were. we're going to play one more sound byte for you here, dana. here was steve schmidt chief strategist on hbo friday neither. >> the founding fathers, though. they can no more conceive of an ak-47 or ar15 firing full automatic no more than a spaceship. it is harder to buy cough medicine than it is a ak50 of them. steve: is that true? it is harder to buy cough medicine than it is an ak-47
or 50 of them? >> no. and you would have to buy cough medicine that is really old. pre1986 is how old that would be. and then you would have to get law enforcement approval and spend $50,000, and that's just completely inaccurate. and he's not speaking on a position of experience, so i'm not sure why he's chiming in on the law here. but, no, you have to be able to go through many, many steps to be able to do that. but really quickly on the historicalness, in fact, our founding fathers were aware of it, the continental congress was getting ready to purchase a fully automatic firearm but they were prohibited only because of cost. not because of desire. so people picked up a book and understand the history of firearms, maybe they wouldn't make such silly arguments on live television. steve: i haven't heard those stories before. dana loesch from the nra, thank you so much for joining us from dallas. >> thank you so much. steve: meanwhile, it's not just saturday night live pushing liberal talking points.
>> if trump is upset rex tillerson called him a moron, wait until what he finds out the rest of the country calls him? steve: why a turn from the left? a hollywood insider from the outside coming up next. and a man hanging onto -- yep, he's on the front of a moving school bus. the kids insideter fade. the story behind the video coming up the best simple salad ever?
and she finds it endlessly humorous. >> anyway, let's get to the news, though, because that's more important. do you remember the promise president trump made to coal country? >> you're going to see what happens. you're going to see. i get elected, you're going to see what happens. it's going to happen fast. and you're going to be back to better than ever before. >> well, he's about to deliver on it today. the administration set to make a big announcement on climate policy scrapping former president obama's clean power plan. the epa declaring that the rule meant to occu curb greenhouse gas emissions. chelsea manning claiming she didn't spill any government secrets, only history. claiming quote these aren't intelligence documents. it's historical data. there's nothing sensitive in there. there's no troop movements. it was a historical record of everything that happened in iraq and afghanistan. manning spent seven years in
military prison for disclosing classified information to wikileaks. president obama commuted her sentence. this video is absolutely insane. look at your screen. an irate man clings onto a moving school bus after he says a bottle was thrown at his car. the bus driver reducin refusing to stop. >> get off the bus. >> an off-duty baltimore cop quickly stepped in to help. the man was arrested. bus packed with middle schooling-aged kids. and superstar angelina jolie may have been plotting a real life secret mission. . >> so according to a french website, jolie once helped
capture the uganda warlord. the plan was to invite him to dinner so that they could catch him. but jolie wasn't the only star in the spy plot. george clooney declining an invitation to gather information on the regime. there you have it. look at your headlines. steve: nobody would believe it. thank you very much, jillian. by the way, brian, i just sent you a cat video. [laughter] all right. let's bring in actress and comedian heather macdonald joins us today from our l.a. bureau. hey, heather. good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: let's talk a little bit about how -- do you remember in the olden days? i don't know if you're old enough. but i remember johnny carson when he would go on at 11:30 at night, whoever was the president of the united states, there was always some good-natured poking at them. but it seems like the late night hosts have taken such a turn against the president. can you figure out why? >> well, because they don't
like him. and they didn't vote for him, but they're probably secretly happy that they won because they have material every single night. and that is every show, and it does get a little tiring. there are people that would love to have a choice of watching something that could take their mind off all the turmoil that's going on in ourly world. and, unfortunately, you can't because every single one has the same point of view. and that's the majority of the comedic material up top. they have their show. it's understand hart news. so if you don't want to watch it, you don't have to. but it's obviously very evident. ainsley: we have a montage of what a lot of the late night hosts are saying about this administration. take a look at this and we'll get your reaction. >> the white house is scaling back a rule that requires employers to cover birth control. and ask what people should do for birth control now? the white house says think of trump. >> wait until he finds out what the rest of the country
has been calling him. >> president trump finally arrives in puerto rico this week. and let's just say problem solved. nothing says i understand the gravity of the situation like a billionaire tossing six rolls of paper towels to hurricane victims. ainsley: so, heather, do you think it's funny that they do this to president obama? >> you mean that they didn't do it to obama? is that what you're saying? ainsley: i'm just asking. did they do it? you know, is it fair? >> i mean, i don't remember -- i don't recall them doing it, no. i mean, it is -- it's an easier target to do. and announcement on a roll, and that is what is getting them ratings, so they're going to do what they're going to do. i mean, you know, i did notice as you guys did that there was no mention of harvey weinstein, there was not even a one-,you know, update saturday night live update joke, which could have been an easy one to stick in there. i understand the story maybe came out thursday. you couldn't write a whole sketch. however, i would like to have seen one of the actors in the peninsula right robe
hitting on ashley judd. i mean, that was a pretty juicy, amazing story. brian: they always change-up in the actual show and evidently, they had a skit, and they deleted it out. and the explanation was it's just so new york. really? harvey weinstein, the most powerful man in hollywood is too new york? are you kidding? >> yeah. i mean, what it is is sometimes it's not the host or even the writers. they might have wanted to do it. it could have been the network higher up that have a personal relationship with the weinstein company or maybe they've got a movie there or maybe they felt, you know, it's not worth it. i mean, look, i've never tweeted about the president. i don't know. one day my son might be in a foreign country, and i might need him. i don't want to know that there's a record efof me that said something nasty about him. it's not worth it. so for them if being in hollywood, it might just not be worth it to make fun of harvey weinstein and the weinstein company. brian: the ratings are up slightly. but overall where late night
used to be, they're down dramatically. and i will say this on top of that. it's good business for them. okay. hit the president. but if you can somewhat balance it out, you would have a shot at getting the other 50% of the country that doesn't hate the president. so it doesn't even make financial sense. >> i agree, and i feel like at one time fallon was a little bit more middle of the road. but there's something every night to discuss. i personally with my comedy and my stand up and my podcast with heather macdonald, i decided about a year ago i was not going to discuss politics, and this was a place for escapism, my social media is escapism, and that way people aren't getting fights on my facebook page. that's what i like. so there's 20 other shows that you can watch if you want to watch trump bashing shows. i feel it's a little much. i wish there was something else to watch before you went
to bed. just kind of take your mind off things. steve: well, you know what? they can watch your podcast. >> well, they can listen to my podcast. heather macdonald free everywhere. thank you. ainsley: heather, you are hilarious. you are so talented. thank you. brian: thank you. >> thank you. brian: jokes again about you, ainsley. i don't think they're very funny. ainsley: i would like to hear them. i'm sure i would laugh. brian: straight ahead, did you hear what dianne feinstein said about the las vegas shooter? >> could there have been any law passed that would have stopped him? >> no. ainsley: so what is the answer? we are live in las vegas as police are describing the heroing moments as they were trying to stop that shooter. steve: and then the group antifa targets on this columbus day but the outrage is all wrong. hear that coming up next operations in real-time, so our engineers can solve problems with the most precise data at their fingertips. because safety is never being satisfied.
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circle is around the clock security. is this an embarrassment? cops concerned about vandism to the christopher columbus statute on reports that antif antifa. this who denigrate columbus day only feed the bigoted narrative. former attorney jennifer harris joins us right now. jennifer, are you surprised about the push back on columbus now that it's even gaining speed these days? >> i'm not surprised because it has been going on for several decades. i am surprised that it has gained currency in our schools and that well-intentioned people have latched onto this because they believe that they're promoting diversity and tolerance towards native americans. what they don't realize is that in honoring -- denigrating columbus, they're actually -- it's an insult to both italian americans and hispanic-americans who wouldn't exist in this country without christopher columbus. brian: what exactly -- put in
perspective what he did. he basically went where nowhere had gone before. they equated to going to the moon in the '60s, only more dangerous. that's what columbus did. he was an explorer. that's why we have statues. >> he changed the course of human events. he brought two cultures together and created a new one. the latino culture. and that is why there are more statutes for christopher columbus in puerto rico than any other place in earth. brian: was he perfect? >> of course not. but you can't judge historic figures by the standards today. and, of course, there's a new poll out that says 60% of americans want to continue to honor christopher columbus and more than 75% agree that we need to judge him by the standards of his own time. not ours. and, by the way, by those standards, christopher columbus was a pretty good guy. i mean, he was a check on bad behavior, did bad things happen under spanish
colonization? of course. but he specifically advocating for humane treatment, and that's what gets lost in this whole debate. brian: and the journey to get the money to get the ships, to get the crew, in order to go toward what he thought was india, and his hope was china. ended up being the caribbean. and if you go out and read voyages, ousted exactly what happened. he wrote down a lot of himself and his son picked up the mantle from there. >> that's right. brian: jennifer, thank you so much. >> thank you. happy columbus day. brian: it's insane we have to debate columbus day and worry about his statue. unbelievable. it's great to live in new york city. thank you. >> thank you. brian: 12 minutes now before the top of the hour. coming up, what does the vegas shooter's brother know. the fbi trying to figure that out this hour. he is in las vegas. so where in las vegas? live prudential asked these couples: how much money do you think you'll need in retirement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9?
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>> president trump ready to cut a deal with dems so called dreamers. but it's what he's asking for in return that has some top democrats slamming the president as beyond reasonable. the weekly standard mon mccormick join us and congressman sean duffy join bill and i top of the hour on america's newsroom. brian: he appeared on nearly every tv show in the country over the course of last week. the brother of the shooterrer. i'm talking eric paddock. ainsley: he's being questioned by the fbi. steve: will is joining us from las vegas. >> officials are wondering exactly what that room on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay look like in the aftermath of the shooting. they describe it as a armory. they said they were tripping over guns there were so many
all over the place. he also had toolboxes, pure tools, a surveillance system, and a note on his nightstand. >> i did notice a note on the nightstand near his shooting platform. i could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was going to be for this -- for the crowd. so he had that written down and figured out, so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there. >> paddock's brother is now in las vegas. he lives in florida, and he's trying to answer questions so that authorities can try to zero in on that motive. at the same time this weekend, authorities search paddock's home here in nevada for the second time. also, steve wynn spoke with where chris wallis about red flags leading up to the shooting. >> if there's anything that stood out over the six years,
nobody. that has ever worked here had ever seen the gentleman or lady take a drink of wine, beer, or alcohol of any kind. now, a lot of people don't drink. but considering their frequency of all the restaurants and their behavior as normal tourists taking advantage of everything that's available in our resort, they never, ever imbibed in any liquor. >> and last night, all of the hotels on the strip dimmed their lights for 11 minutes. the exact time of the shooting seven days ago. one of the many tributes we've seen over the past week. guys, back to you. steve: live near the mandalay bay. we thank you very much. well, if you were watching the sunday morning chat shows yesterday and even saturday night live, everybody is asking about guns. how did this guy get so many guns? but as we heard from dianne feinstein who was on the cbs show yesterday, she couldn't answer one important question. >> could there have been any
law passed that would have stopped him? >> no. he passed basketed checks registering for handguns and other weapons on multiple occasions. brian: mental health is one thing we have to get ahead of. there's already been a movement in the house with mental health. that wouldn't have stopped him because there was no red flag on that. there was a social behavior problem, but that prevent. ainsley: he was just crazy. he has lots of problems psychologically, i assume. anybody who can do this has to be crazy and out of their mind. he can do it anyway. it doesn't matter if there were a million gun laws out there. steve: well, nonetheless, washington is talking about doing something about these bump stocks, these devices that you can add to a semi automatic to make it easier to pull the trigger to shoot more bullets. dianne feinstein was talking about how she has had republican interest in bump stocks. but the interest is simply in having more hearings up on
capitol hill. she does have 36 democrats, believe i who are signing on as cosponsors. brian: republicans are smart enough to sign on to get rid of them because you don't need them, and i think it's just something they could get behind. in fact, the nra was -- when the nra comes out and is open to it, i think it really brought some common sense -- ainsley: they said they're open to regulations. they're not open to outlawing anything. brian: we really need a machine gun in this country? steve: there aren't any regulations at this point. regulate it firmly. ainsley: i think they're just saying less government. steve: right. brian: it's hard to imagine getting a license for a machine gun. that's what you're talking about. when you put it on, it makes it a machine gun. steve: it makes it a lot easier to shoot a lot of bullets. but anyway, the debate just goes on in washington. thought we would update you. brian: more fox and friends in a moment
tonight, several breaking stories as we come on the air. the state of emergency now including los angeles. multiple fires burning out of control. one of america's busiest highways shut down for a time. fire raging on both sides. the other major story tonight. president trump's monumental shift on u.s. policy. officially recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel. planning to move the u.s. embassy there. tonight, swift reaction from some of america's most drafted allies. some calling it regrettable, unhelpful. al franken tonight revealing he will make about announcement tomorrow. is the senator resigning? amid a growing number of senators who now say he must go. donald trump jr. answering questions for several hours on capitol hill about that meeting with a russian lawyer. amid the bigger question, what, if anything, did his father, then candidate donald trump,
know about it? the plane shooting from a plane taking off from lax. and the manhunt right now. authorities say the suspect dressing like an officer, appearing to be armed, accused now in several robberies. and our made in america christmas is back this year. who writes those hallmark cards? tonight, you'll meet them. good evening. and it's great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. and we begin with two major stories. president trump recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital. swift reaction from our allies. but first tonight, the emergency unfolding right here at home. at least four major fires burning out of control at this hour, and tonight, los angeles now included in the state of emergency. a new fire erupting there today. catching rush hour drivers by surprise. shutting down one of america's busiest highways, the 450, for a time. flames on each side. the flames creeping towards the homes perched on the hills of
l.a. the fires destroying 200 structures already, homes, apartment buildings, even a hospital. abc's matt gutman in california, leading us off. >> reporter: tonight, that new major wildfire crowning the famed hollywood hills with fire. >> this is really frightening. they're a lot of homes here. >> reporter: some of the most expensive properties in america. >> wow, look at this. >> reporter: the flaming engulfing interstate 405, one of america's busiest freeways, making for a hellish commute, and threatening the getty center and its priceless artwork. hundreds of firefighters on the ground and swarms of aircraft fighting the blazes. >> with this area, it's been years since anything has been burned at all. >> reporter: flames churning into neighborhoods. >> that house is completely engulfed in the smoke and the smoke coming out is noxious. it's like breathing in tear gas. there's a helicopter overhead now. it's dropping water right now so we might get wet. they're dumping everything they have on this fire.
you could see it from the helicopters, you could see that hose over there right behind me. they're blasting away at this fire with whatever they can, trying to save these homes. firefighters overcome by the heat and that smoke. >> are you just hot? >> yeah, just too hot. >> reporter: many residents racing to pack up and get out. a nursing home also evacuated. patients parked in their wheelchairs outside. azita kaboud and her family staying behind. >> there you go. >> reporter: with a little help, now fighting to protect their neighbors' homes. >> it was like a warzone in our backyard, fires were coming all over. >> reporter: this fire, one of four major blazes scorching california. at the creek fire, at least seven firefighters injured. this horse rescues from a ranch. more than two dozen others did not survive. and the largest, the thomas fire, is still out of control. the flames marching all the way to the pacific ocean. our marcus moore is there. >> the thomas fire destroyed 150
structures here in ventura county, and already some people have begun the process of shifting through the rubble as the flames continue to threaten 1,200 other structures. >> reporter: some residents are able to survey the damage today. >> it's devastating. sorry. grateful we have our home but i'm very sorry for my neighbors, the way my neighbors look, it's just horrible. >> matt gutman live with us tonight. we see the flames behind you. we know firefighters are concerned tonight that the wind gusts could be 80 miles an hour overnight? >> reporter: that's right, david. they're predicting gale-force winds tonight. and those winds half that speed that caused what you see behind me. destroying those homes, charring cars like the one you see right here. raging up hillsides. the concern from officials here in los angeles is that the ferocity of tonight's winds will pick up embers that are still burning here and sweep them farther up these hillsides, consuming parts of these very. >> matt gutman, thank you.
authoritying bracing for the ones, as he just mentioned. let's get to rob marciano, also on the ground in california tonight. rob? >> reporter: david, this area of l.a. county saw some of the highest wind gusts on monday night, burning down dozens of homes, injuring seven firefighters and forcing thousands to evacuate. we expect a repeat wind performance tonight, unfortunately. here we go. round two of this santa ana wind event. we've got red flag warnings, high wind warnings up through friday. could see 30 to 40-mile-per-hour gusts in the city, which means that we'll see 70, maybe 80-mile-per-hour gusts in the mountains. that is just impossible to fight fires against. the next 24 hours, david, are certainly critical. >> they will be critical indeed. rob, thank you, as well. and the other major news tonight, president trump reversing nearly seven decades of u.s. policy. now recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital, and planning to move the american embassy there, saying it will advance
the peace process. but tonight, swift reaction from some of our key allies. one calling it unhelpful, the other calling it regrettable. here's abc's chief global affairs correspondent martha raddatz again tonight. >> reporter: he had promised this day would come, but to hear these words from the white house was jaw-dropping. >> i have determined that it is time to officially recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel. while previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. today, i am delivering. >> reporter: not only signing a proclamation reversing nearly 70 years of u.s. policy, but starting plans to move the embassy to jerusalem. no one else on earth has an embassy there. >> we cannot solve our problems by making the same failed assumptions and repeating the same failed strategies of the
past. >> reporter: the president, who visited israel last may, calling this a long overdue step to advance the peace process. but the reaction swift. palestinian leader mahmoud abbas saying it could lead to "wars that will never end." the turkish foreign minister calling it "a grave mistake." britain's prime minister calling it "unhelpful" to the peace process. french president macron saying it was "regrettable." and protests. palestinians burning the u.s. and israeli flag, declaring jerusalem their capital and saying the blood of martyrs won't be wasted. the only positive comments overseas? >> this is an historic day. >> reporter: israel's president benjamin netanyahu, clearly relishing the move. >> let's get live to martha tonight. martha, we took note today that vice president pence standing behind the president, not jared kushner, who the president has indicated in the past was the point man for middle east peace
in the white house. >> reporter: that's right, david. but the president is sending the vice president to the region, but it's unclear what the new strategy to attain peace is. but it's going to be tough. secretary of state rex tillerson is traveling in vienna wright now and facing stern feedback from some of his european counterparts, david. >> martha raddatz, thank you. the u.s. military on alert at this hour at u.s. embassies across the middle east, bracing for possible backlash. you have saw martha's report there of clashes already. let's get right to abc's james longman, live in jerusalem tonight. james? >> reporter: david, that's right. marines sent security teams to different u.s. facilities across the region. look at this. security teams, riot police surrounding this embassy tonight in turkey. american citizens are being warned to stay away from crowded streets. palestinian leaders have called for three days of rage. tonight, there were protests on the streets of gaza.
president mahmoud abbas has warned that today's announcement could risk strengthen extremist groups. but as for us here now on the streets of jerusalem, things seem pretty quiet, as people process this news, but i think that could change in the days to come. david? >> james longman with us tonight from jerusalem. james, thank you. back here at home, and next to al franken tonight. the democratic senator has now revealed he will make an announcement tomorrow. of course, the question, will he resign amid growing pressure from several prominent women in the senate who began an avalanche of senators today who now say he must go. abc's mary bruce, back on the hill tonight. >> reporter: the cascade of calls for al franken to go started this morning with a handful of women senators. >> enough is enough. >> reporter: it appeared to be a coordinated strike, one after another, they flooded social media. by the end of the day, at least 28 senators were calling on franken to resign. you're saying he should resign?
>> and i get no pride or pleasure in saying that. thank you. >> reporter: just days ago, most democrats were holding their fire. this was senator patty murray of washington. >> the senate ethics committee should do an investigation and that's where i believe it should go. >> reporter: but today, a starkly different tone. murray tweeting, "i'm shocked and appalled by senator franken's behavior. it's clear to me that this has been a deeply harmful, persistent problem and a clear pattern over a long period of time. what was the tipping point here? why today? >> the numerosity and the type of complaints and accusations. >> reporter: just hours earlier, another woman had come forward, saying franken forcibly kissed her. the senator denies that allegation. tonight, eight women in total have accused franken of sexual misconduct. the first, radio host leeann tweeden, who released this photo. >> i think today's revelations just further add to a fact pattern here that's just unacceptable. >> reporter: franken has
apologized and promised to make amends. >> i know there are no magic words that i can say to regain your trust. >> reporter: but tonight, the trust of his colleagues now appears lost for good. >> all right, mary bruce live back on the hill tonight. and mary, you've been working your sources what do we know about this promised announcement from senator franken? >> reporter: well, david, franken's office says no final decision has been made, but multiple democratic sources tell us he is, in fact, expected to announce his resignation tomorrow. david? >> all right, mary bruce, you'll be on the hill again tonight. thank you. to the russia investigation tonight, and donald trump jr. on the hot seat for hours today. answering questions from the house intelligence committee about that meeting at trump tower with the russian lawyer during the campaign, after e-mails showed he was promised dirt on hillary clinton. here's abc's senior justice correspondent pierre thomas tonight. >> reporter: on capitol hill today, donald trump jr. grilled for hours by members of the house intelligence committee.
congressman, has he been forthcoming, sir? >> not commenting at this time, thank you. >> reporter: a key focus, the 2016 trump tower meeting. don jr., jared kushner, campaign chairman paul manafort and that russian lawyer. don jr. had been told in an e-mail from an associate that the lawyer wanted to provide the campaign with dirt on hillary clinton as part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. don jr.'s response? "if it's what you say, i love it." >> in retrospect, i probably would have done things a little differently. for me, this was opposition research. >> reporter: opposition research is the norm. but what's under scrutiny is whether the trump campaign sought help from a hostile foreign power. don jr. insisting nothing came of the meeting. but when the story first broke, he gave a misleading statement about why it was arranged in the first place, saying the focus was on russian adoptions. president trump was involved in drafting that statement. >> my son is a wonderful young man. most people would have taken that meeting. >> reporter: the big question, when did the president learn of
the meeting and what was he told? >> after those e-mails became public, he acknowledged discussing that matter with his father, but refused to answer questions about that discussion on the basis of a claim of attorney/client privilege. >> all right, pierre thomas with us live tonight. he's on the hill. and pierre, as we just heard from congressman schiff there, reportedly don jr. saying he did talk to the president about this after the e-mails became public, but would not reveal more to the committee. the president's son facing questions for eight hours today. he's going to be facing more? >> reporter: that's right, david. it was a gruelling eight hours of questioning, and, david, we suspect that the special counsel may have additional questions for don jr. david? >> pierre thomas with us again tonight. thank you, pierre. back here at home and to senate candidate roy moore counting on a powerful ally, steve bannon. moore has faced tough criticism from some republicans, including mitt romney, who has said that he should bow out. overnight, bannon taking direct aim at romney and his sons, but
did his line of fire open up a volumer inability for president trump? tom llamas. >> reporter: roy moore, a man accused of molesting teenage girls, promising alabama voters he'll stand side by side with president trump. >> we're going to see if the people of alabama will support the president. >> reporter: joining moore, who has deniedal accusations of sexual misconduct, the president's former chief strategist, stooefl bannon. >> if they can destroy roy moore, they can destroy you. >> reporter: bannon then unleashing on republicans who have called on moore to quit. >> let's talk about another beauty. willard mitt romney. >> reporter: romney tweeted that electing moore would be a stain on the nation. bannon slamming romney, a mormon, for not serving in vietnam. >> you hid behind your religion. you went to france to be a missionary while guys were dying in rice patties in vietnam.
you had five sons. not one day of service in afghanistan and iran. >> reporter: today, both of utah's senators, mormons themselves, came to romney's defense. senator orrin hatch calling bannon's words disappointing and unjustified. senator mike lee denouncing bannon for bashing romney on the basis of his religious bleaches or his outstanding service as a missionary. bannon's attack begs the question what he thinks of his former boss. >> i had a minor medical deferment for feet, for a bone spur of the foot, which was minor. >> reporter: president trump avoided vietnam. five deferments because he was in college and for those bone spurs. back here in alabama, both campaigns taking very different approaches in the final days. the democrat, doug jones, campaigning all over the state, with multiple events. roy moore, the republican, on the other hand, with barely one event a day. david? >> tom llamas from montgomery. tom, thank you. and "time" magazine this evening recognizing, quote, the
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entirely on winter food and drinks so let's have a sneak peek at some of the stories coming up. tito i germans are jumping on the british t.v. tradition. of dipping in and warming up the insides with swiss cheese fondue. i'm just desserts enjoying a winter treat in the mountains of austria. when it's cold outside people tend to favor warm hearty dishes for their meals as opposed to light and fresh cuisine in the summer months a country like poland generally has cooler temperatures for the majority of the year so it's no surprise that most of the dishes a wholesome rich and warming a modern influence has cooled to top restaurants to appeal more to the international market so in one of poland's a new the craziness tablets ment's chef sylvester at least shows us how he keeps up
with the times whilst maintaining polish traditions. the tucked her mountains in southern poland are among the most popular tourist destinations in eastern europe. not far from book away in a touch is where chef sylvester elise has his restaurant. he's famous in the region. and one of his specialties is leg of lamb. clearly jobs on the maronite chili pepper finally put it on the lounge to give it spiciness. i want to create a confrontation on the plate of my serve dumplings made from pumpkin and sweet potatoes with the lightly spiced meat looking for. proof. apart from the chili there's also lime rosemary salt and pepper in the marinate. he rubs it into the meat well and then adds a few drops of whiskey. there is that although he was composed of whisky has
a particular role models with couples it has a bit of a sweet aftertaste which goes well with a solid line together that gives it a very special combination of flavors of those with the future. but if it's local may not its market. he adds meat stock and lets the lamb stew at eighty degrees celsius for twelve hours. in the meantime he visits the neighboring farm to get some cheese for a moose that he'll serve with the meat. of the cheese called back is made from sheep's milk first the milk is heated and then the she's is formed into balls that are pressed into wooden cylinders. that's how the cheese acquires this pattern so typical for the region. later the cheese is smoked. this is the type that service to lease uses in his restaurant.
that of the entire regions diversity is contained little is a change reality is about that the smoke among the three feels very cold at the moment so i can taste the grass barretts the mountain out of the cheese tastes of nature the much you don't want. back in the kitchen he makes the moose mixing the grated cheese with goats cream cheese milk and butter milk. then he prepares a cranberry jelly to provide a flavor contrast first to cooks the cranberries in red wine sweetening them with a little honey. he also makes the jam from onions garlic and butter tomatoes red pepper and pumpkin.
my uncle catawba. is actually the opposite of what you think of as jacques it's made of vegetables not so comfortable but everything is chopped up small and coach of the sun and so why shouldn't i call it jeremy. that's another game was another one. for the side dish a mash is cooked sweet potatoes and pumpkin adding an egg and some flour. then he rolls and cuts the dough to form dumplings that are called capecchi. he uses jerusalem artichokes crumbs to cook them his modern take on traditional cuisine. is for you have to adapt to your environment to what the people want to what they're interested in. why have the great opportunity to be able to create what others can't describe in words. i can make a tangible proof life has to go forward that's when the little bitch it's michael
writes. after twelve hours in the oven the lamb is lovely and tender. he carves the meat and wraps the pieces in philo pastry parcels putting them back in the oven briefly. then he serves them with the vegetable jam and the dumplings. the cranberry jelly and cheese mousse provide the finishing touch. to go down there i would recommend a dry red wine to go with it to create a contrast with the solid fruits and sweeter scientists have six or more complex. marinated lamb with sweet potatoes dumplings a commentary journey through poland's mountains. well after day on the breezy mountains or in fact anywhere that's cold outside there's nothing highlight mol them coming inside a cup of tea so british of me i know but i'm not alone here in germany taken
the taste buds on a large area of your tongue. the tasting is aimed at convincing the participants not just to keep enjoying their old favorites but also to try out new teas. the teas have a smoky dry or sweet taste each one's really different but is a shot i find the black very strong and all the different teas get weaker as you go along the green teas are a bit grassy and the white very mild and the smoke from this is what's so interesting is that they all come from the same plant it's the different way they're prepared for the different steps in preparation. the tea shop offers some three hundred varieties you can recognise a good tea by its type rolled or needle shaped leaves and where green and white
tees are concerned the paler the leaf the better. of course you have to consider providence the country and plantation of origin and tea fans are also collectors like wine lovers and they make sure they get the very best quality from narrowly defined plantations. the latest and most luxurious product on the european team market is much of. it is finally powdered green tea leaves beaten to a froth with a bamboo whisk. green teas in particular a prized for their health promoting qualities. just a two foot a lot i think some doctors say cheese promotes health you can tolerate larger amounts of it than coffee and it has several advantages. it lowers cholesterol levels and contains some vitamins and as a gourmet i wouldn't drink tea for my health but always for pleasure the most i'm
going to. money kullu man has been serving customers in her to room in the well heeled hamburg suburb since one nine hundred eighty eight she has more than forty different varieties on offer she serves the beverage the traditional english way with scones clotted cream and jam. perhaps more germans have taken to teach drinking because it's such a charming and calming ritual. using tea as a quick takeaway drink doesn't do it justice. oh in my opinion it's good any time of the day but it is certainly better when paired with a slice of cake that of course depends on your taste but if you prefer a more savory tree then maybe cheese is more your thing to get through the cold winter day is the swiss typically like to warm up with a cheese form the national dish that dates back at least three hundred years and is
dairy which is also open to visitors mass to cheese makers produce up to forty. wheels of gruet a cup of bats like this hold almost five thousand liters of milk after the curdling process and the separation of the liquid way the curd mask is cut into granules by large knives called cheese hops. the chalk eco fate decides when the cheese has the right consistency something that requires knowledge and experience. one of the things i like best about my job is the cutting of the kurds. at the moment the milk becomes a solid mass and you cut it there is a reaction it's a physical and a chemical reaction but there's something magical about it too and of course i also like to taste the cheese i've made almost. at an air
temperature of fifteen degrees celsius and in human conditions the grew year ripens for up to eighteen months in the long good ages the shock of the flavor to make fun too it's best to use medium age group master cheesemaker bees tests the will that's been ripening for months. if the taste is fruity very floral with just a dash of the acidity that's typical for a good year it's magnificent green the menu for. the oldest known fondue recipe was found in a cookbook from syracuse dating back to sixty ninety nine so in spite of all the legends funders origin's a lightly in the city not in the mountains. in the nineteenth century fondue was a staple tissue in every middle class home and was even considered elitist.
the grew aboriginal history museum in the city of boom has devoted an exhibition to the success story of its fame. chaney's which forms the basis for fondue in the sun secretly our home. just has cheese union began a promotional campaign in the one nine hundred twenty s. suggesting fondue is nice for puts you in a good mood fondue belongs in every family and after world war two for do was served to soldiers during their military service. and so only young men in switzerland learned how you eat from do and brought this with them when they returned to their families used ones will come for you funny you know jewish to. fondue is as much part of switzerland as the alps the sweets eat this national anywhere and everywhere and fundraise popularity has of course spread far and wide eaten around the globe but there's still no better place to enjoy the classic
original than in switzerland. while we're staying in the outs right now as after all of that alarm and cheese it's time for your child does it i don't know about you but i'm certainly working for tights on the show today about having you heard of a kaiser before it's one of australia's most popular sweets it's basically like a pancake that's all been chopped up and then it's set with sugar and cherry sauce on the side decadent it certainly is bought a perfect treat after a day on the slick. the pitch called lazio is austria's high a ski resort here the ski season lasts until may three restaurants feed hungry went to sports enthusiasts one atop the glazier that's almost three thousand five hundred metres above sea level and the others at an elevation of almost three
thousand meters. after a day on the slopes he is can enjoy delicious helping of. the sweet days just as much a part of austrian identity as the alps. a wonderful just like my grandma used to make it. nearby you find austria's highest back to serene stephany's than tele is hard at work a paying pastries and. you put it on when everything is produced up here in the bakery we make all the desserts for the two restaurants fish bits and customers and we also supply cafe three for forty with fresh cake instituted. every morning that is sent up by cable car to austria's highest coffeehouse cafe three full forty it lies six hundred meters about the bakery aside from the fantastic there's another treat for visitors at the so-called place yes no cake.
course on the coconut fine apple very fluffy very light when you if you get it fresh it's quite magical i certainly recommend it for use in feet. but operating a sky high bakery has its pitfalls. about three thousand four hundred forty meters the boiling point is different so if we know that the weather will change will produce the biscuit bases a day early because otherwise they might not be so fluffy and could fall apart inside this nice ocean to cool them. milk. eggs. sugar that's all. kinds of smarm doesn't require any delicate preparation just mix the milk in flour then separate the eggs and beat the egg white with sugar until stiff. it's coming out now
we sell up to four tons of man in the winter season that's one hundred fifty to two hundred portions a day. kaiser should be baked for five minutes on each side and it's ready. stephany's i'm gonna also supplies the restaurants with viennese apple strudel and clips. crisis monica said to get his name from a pancake that went wrong. the austrian emperor of france use if loved. but when a pancake fell apart during cooking it was scrambled up and served to jam. the emperor loved it and emperor scrambled all the smart phones. now it's just missing the icing sugar on top and up here we serve our kaiser man
with apples also ending on bearings. isn't just a favorite into rolls it's one of austria's most popular designs. you have to get right to the top where the nicest pine cones are. how high up to about twenty five meters. june is the best month for harvesting pine cones they should be green and look like this on the inside. only then do they have what's needed for that real black forest buzz. kill distillery in keno marta's force in southern germany has been in operation for four generations but knowledge wanted to do something new the idea came about during a skiing holiday and she rolled a region with a long tradition of distilling occur from a swiss spine. i came home i suggested we try it there are no swiss
pines but there are wonderful white pines the black forest white pine is something very special in my opinion it's big powerful and strong and before long we were all in agreement we try and make something with the pine cones. senior junior and father in law together they're a team with the perfect blend of expertise and courage to branch out their house looks like a winner. that that's a really nice aroma. they began steeping the young white pine cones in summer followed by months of waiting. these budding distillers experimented for about three years with a few ups and downs along the way. but. the first batches were like cloudy apple juice and we didn't like that so it was we paid about with the temperature and the storage until we achieve this lovely shiny copper color it is fifty percent very
strong and. the tinkering paid off and will to be pinal eco is now his passion. this decorum is for me it's a piece of home the forests the feeling and the taste. in a bottle. and if you have one too many you might even hand distant cold cuts of black forest. found like the perfect tip over this chilly season and it might be for today today if you want to say any of our other special episodes of e.m.'s from this week then you can find them on our website it's just below here to tell me to come forward slash lifestyle well be back tomorrow with more when so will miss but for now thank you for watching and goodbye and as we say in gemini.
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ranked highly among the happiest people in the well we thought we'd get a lesson in how to live a more hooghly life. surveys indicate that danes are among the happiest people on earth in fact the un's world happiness report regularly puts denmark at the top of the list. what is it about the danes that makes them such happy people. might be king has written a book about all this and he believes he knows the answer. he has to do with togetherness it has to do with the art of creating a good atmosphere it's about equality it's about saving simple pleasures i think we also see something inherently danish i think we see it as part of our national identity the same way the americans see freedom we think of something as part of
our d.n.a. . the word who get means being comfortable and contented often while enjoying the simpler pleasures of life. here are a few examples. it's having of kabul for show or won't he and some these kids at some and the talk who go a little bit deeper than the killing of a couch and talk. to you can't pull yourself heard is also maybe watching a film or reading a book and brutal isn't. mike beekeeping is the c.e.o. of the happiness research institute in copenhagen he says that the danes unique attitude towards life plays a major role in their sense of wellbeing. we've been curious about why denmark does well in the happiness rankings and we've looked at the political system. and that's
big part of the explanation you know high level of trust your social security and those with health care but that also explains why the other nordic countries do well so we wanted to understand why does denmark do better than than sweden finland iceland and and and norway. spending quality time with family and friends or enjoying homemade cinnamon buns that's. the danes really love christmas time traditional apple tarts are on sale at christmas markets throughout copenhagen. so is brooke or danish mulled wine. particularly amusement park is decked out with a sea of lights mike the king says winter is the peak season for a good. while is practiced throughout the year i think for the winter period it becomes almost a survival strategy it's a way of getting the best out of a time of year which is doc and cold and wet and we're forced into forced. the best
place to experience here is in danish homes the danes have more living space per person than any other european country and they make their surroundings as comfortable as possible. light is important too. there's a reason why we use twice as much candle wax as number two in europe which is australia because we enjoy lighting that is at the low end of the temperature scale so we enjoy warm mortify soft diffused lights to create a nice the atmosphere in a room. but danes also like to have nice things around the house northern europe is known for its design concepts like lamps by pulling an accent and chairs by on a yacob send and corpulent but do these things actually make people happy the notion or the concept of hickeys something that for danes is just a word or describes a a situ. and or
a state of mind more than a design i don't think you can say that it's a sign it's assigned or is. doing something to create but i think it's something that's more ingrained or maybe internalized in our culture a simple walk outside can also be good it doesn't cost anything and makes you feel good he shouldn't be about consumerism you could also use. as the get out of jail card if something is too expensive or if you walk into a restaurant it's too expensive you could say should we find a place that's more in your first or yeah let's find a place that's more so you should be inexpensive because it's about equality and it's about simple precious. danes call that special cozy christmas feeling. and the focus is not on expensive presents it's on being together with family and friends that's the true spirit of christmas and not just in denmark.
during what a lot of is sorts of bring you as well as some the course that might mean a stroll in the park but father says it means a huge adrenaline rush on a man who can't get enough of those bars is a frenchman known as roll of and he designed a unique role a suit that is fitted with thirty two rollers all over the body he can basically roll in any position he likes and since he's mastered the art of rolling he created a suit for goal lighting or skating on the ice. roller man. is trying on some blades. he shoots down the icy track at seventy kilometers per hour like a human bobsled his head just ten centimeters from the ice. he calls
this brand new version of buddy roll in the extreme sport invented buggy ice. the perfect feeling is feeling. when you make mistakes you hear that that the noise is changing when and when everybody's is on the right position it just like. when something's wrong as. i sunfire in see good and i feel some fifty kilometers east of the capital i'm a guy. adrenaline junkies come here to race on skates. or hurtle down the loo jack breakneck speeds. and he is the craziest of them all brawn told from france is full body suit is studded with fourteen ice skate blades a prototype that's only been tried once before. the first session i got which i loved is intercounty you watch and then you see the people wrong direction the
trees. going over you and the sky is wrong direction so so it's the world is changing around you because of the gravity direction. this is. in the original version of his suit as the roller man. he reached speeds up to one hundred twenty kilometers an hour. the thirty two rollers lead him to zip across smooth surfaces in every conceivable position. it may look pretty dangerous but it's meticulously planned out. sometimes i go even by foot to know each corner it's truck it's it's cross world. so i know everything in my head i can visualize in three d. how districts like so it's a question of preparation you don't go just like this. drawing you brando invented
is thirty two wheel roller sued over twenty years ago while studying industrial design. now he's selling his invention so much of it has to be done by hand but the suit costs around six thousand seven hundred euro's. he also warns money with t.v. appearances and advertising even if he makes a living from his invention rondo's says it's not primarily about money. when you wear the suit the first time. your. connection to the world is changing you are not. you're not a normal human everything you touch in touch with the reels it looks more robotic deeply your identity the image you sent to the other people is different. over the years brando is refined to suit more and more modifying it for
a variety of services this is the ski version and he's got his sights set on new goals as well. i think we can go like this is easily fifty six fifty can return more we've good ironies to work on ironies. i would like to work with some multiples in sight like electric motor was my dream is to be faster than the called st even the flat i want that i can produce. the cheaper that's for christmas choose to buy it. there's no doubt that the suit is a real eye catcher. and it may well be the most impressive and dangerous way to speak down. to impressive it certainly is and you won't catch me trying it out in
a hurry let's turn now to focus on two german artists who have a more tranquil passion and that is lighting up forests with their projections and imagery they use an innovative combination of techniques bringing life to the darkest of nights the images they produce of both magical and mesmerizing the also prefer to not digitally manipulate anything in post-production so the key for them is in the preparation and that can take hours in the cold winter nights. glowing shapes in untouched nature surrealistic images from the short film lucid by the german artist's collective. and none of this is done with computer
animation even the images that seem inexplicable are real objects and were actually installed in the surroundings. and fruit trees fun sure put a lot of physical work and creativity into their art. among other things they use luminescent wires and objects to create their illusions. we can use anything that glows it all depends on how you stage it to take things in with the techniques and materials i use range from household items for example the sphere shape as a layer of ikea to projections for example we have one shot with a triangle we cut it out of cardboard and then just object to the colored like. the thumb points you have would have when the. in twenty fourteen the artist
duo shot the short film bioluminescent forest here to all the light effects are projected directly into the setting rather than manipulating the images on a computer. direct my wad and on sure employed and even labrat technology for this called projection mapping parts of the forest are illuminated effects on irregular surfaces and textures are taken into account this requires not only a precise plan but also patient. especially when the illuminated objects are not only three dimensional but also animate. usually we only project light onto inanimate objects but we also wanted to use animals ones that don't move much or that hold still for a while but with a frog we have to film for five hours because it kept jumping away because. for
other projects the light artists bring a bit of nature into the city. for example their new project in paris in twenty fifty. astonished the audience with the projection of a gigantic spider. first they had to build a cardboard model of the building and film the spider inside it then they projected the video onto the inside walls of the building for the illusion to be perfect the dimensions and perspectives had to correspond precisely. when it is with the manoir for us it's important to keep trying out new techniques for example in our next project we might work with fire or with water or whatever. with a wide range of things we don't want to limit our so i'm saying that i think that's what enables us to always have new themes and to be able to convey a feeling. that i hunt will continue to create illusions in the future without image editing using physical
exertion and ingenious ideas. you might have an artist that we have a winter theme running through the show today on the use of force is no exception we met a couple who says for twenty years to find the perfect spots to build their dream home they found it on a peninsula in no way above the arctic circle a shell like home is now their own little private sanctuary where they can go to high but night whenever they so desire. the lignin peninsula lies north of the arctic circle this holiday home is perfectly suited to the cold climate in northern norway where snow covers the ground for roughly half the year it was built by hot bod kramer and tova felt hello welcome to my cabin come inside.
the heart of the building is the living area with its floor to ceiling windows which afford a stunning view of the water this two hundred square metre bungalow is hot board kramer's and over felts weekend retreat the retiree's spend as much time here as possible i am and. most assignments and looking at the see. we are relaxing more we can. all read that book we can. be a more outside. during the winter months the sun doesn't rise for too long months to compensate for the lack of daylight that has decorated the house and a vibrant colors and fitted it with cozy carpets and blankets a geothermal heat pump and a wood fire ensure cozy temperatures. i can stand. near the wall from the
fireplace. it's very giving me i love that and it's. the house also boasts a sauna that can be used all year round. i go in this house and i every saturday where we are here we take this out with the family to it our daughter. did and they also. i may have i yeah we warm us here. have a very coffee the bedrooms face the heath behind the cabin till the felt and her husband searched for twenty years until they found this spot to build their cabin construction began in two thousand and seven their idea was to build a cabin that harmonizes with its environment yet also provides a warm haven amid these harsh climbs. i like the
structure their feeling the warmth feeling it gives they want to. be like i said. you see it oh i own all there. on the outside. the cabins wooden structure was neatly fitted into the few words rock formation its walls are lined with the who wind currents. architects norris jenison designed the cabin and chose materials like wood which will withstand the harsh arctic climate for many years. it's untreated. grayish look but still it's a warm work on the outside cedar which of course in this climate also is. very well suited. and turns your silver grey in time.
twelve a fountain hubbard kramer spent plenty of time outside if the weather permits it sometimes they can observe reindeer or winds at sea and in the winter they sometimes see the northern lights this is why they love being so far north. it's the better and not the temperate or. they are their surroundings we have here that i haven't seen. i've read. photo of a fountain hawk park kramer spending time in their cozy cabin north of the arctic circle his goodness no matter what the season. now have you heard of. before it's one of australia's most popular deserts especially in the winter it's basically like a pancake being chopped up and then it's served with sugar and cherry sauce on the
side decadent really is but a perfect treat after violence like. the pit called lazio is austria's high a ski resort here at the ski season lasts until may three restaurants feed hungry winter sports enthusiasts one atop the glazier that's almost three thousand five hundred metres above sea level and the others at an elevation of almost three thousand meters. after a day on the slopes ski is can enjoy delicious helping of. the sweet days just as much a part of austrian identity as the alps. a wonderful just like my grandma used to make it. nearby you'll find austria's highest patisserie stephany's than tele is hard at work here paying pastries and the smart . you put it everything is produced up here in the bakery
we make all the desserts for the two restaurants fish bits and customers and we also supply cafe three for forty with fresh cake instituted. every morning that is sent up by cable car to austria's highest coffeehouse cafe three for forty it lies six hundred meters about the bakery aside from the fantastic there's another treat the visit has the so-called place yes no cake. course on the coconut fine uppal very fluffy very light when you if you get it fresh it's quite magical and certainly recommended would put it in feet. but operating a sky high bakery has its pitfalls. about three thousand four hundred forty metres the boiling point is different so if we know that the weather will change will produce the biscuit bases a day early because otherwise they might not be so fluffy and could fall apart
inside us and if so shouldn't. milk. eggs. sugar that's all. kinds of smarm doesn't require any delicate preparation just mix the milk in flour then separate the eggs and beat the egg white with sugar until stick. it's coming out now that it's nice and foamy will do the famous test. it should be like this. add the rest of the act to the mixture. then to give it its airy consistency gently fold in the egg whites nearly all run. on the pits todd glacier we don't use mineral water and. we prefer egg whites. then the kaiser stays moist
longer the type to feed not. knowing i. used the shavings i don't. know what you come on you know now we can add some raisins on the glacier we put in raisins but you can leave them out if you wish. we sell up to four tons of man in the winter season that's one hundred fifty to two hundred portions a day. should be baked for five minutes on each side and then it's ready. stephany's i'm too low also supplies the restaurants with viennese apple strudel and clips. because the smog is said to get its name from a pancake that went wrong. the austrian emperor of france use if loved. but
when a pancake fell apart during cooking it was scrambled up and served. them probably loved it and empress scrambled all the smart phones. now it's just missing the icing sugar on top and up here we serve our kaiser man with apple sauce on going on very. this in just a favorite if you're old it's one of austria's most popular there's a. sweet treat to end the show on things are changing in everyone i hope this season hasn't made you feel too cold wherever you're watching from i'll see you again say you know your max and until then on social media five an hour.
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