melissa: i m not totally sure he is right about that. he has done a bunch of things along the way to undermine his own case. when he stood there and said, i don t really need to do this, yikes. kennedy: it sort of lesson three emergency part of it. melissa: it does make it tough. legal experts say it matter so much more what he writes versus what he says. in that very long press conference he did say almost everything. so you can kind of put something into every little basket there. but i d don t know that has confidence of is that the supreme court level. again, i m not a lawyer, either. it doesn t necessarily seem to me like that is for sure the case. he had a bunch of avenues to go. it was that one piece of money he wanted for those billions he was getting, that depended on it calling don mike being called a national emergency. carley: speaking of the legality, and something that cavity brought up with will hurd talking about the 1,000 farmers that could stand to lose land
i think you ll see some play around it. he ll try to pretend he s diverting money. it s going toby a really big chal chg, because they have amped up this idea that it s an emergency. and there s a physical wall, whether that s going to be there or not. it s going to be hard at some point to spin that. there s a question about the emergency part of it and a lot of intumating what he has in his pocket. what s yours? no. i share the same sense. i think larger question is do they have any appetite or do they want to act as though this question was resolved. we d be talking about protections for dreamers, protections for those with tps. there s none of that. they re just talking about a wall and we re talking about detention. so this is not at all
i think you ll see some play around it. he ll try to pretend he s diverting money. it s going toby a really big chal chg, because they have amped up this idea that it s an emergency. and there s a physical wall, whether that s going to be there or not. it s going to be hard at some point to spin that. there s a question about the emergency part of it and a lot of intumating what he has in his pocket. what s yours? no. i share the same sense. i think larger question is do they have any appetite or do they want to act as though this question was resolved. we d be talking about protections for dreamers, protections for those with tps. there s none of that. they re just talking about a wall and we re talking about detention. so this is not at all
people there are. is it pretty significant? you know, a community or is this very rural? the whole area is probably about 150 homes. some of the homes are higher than others. but it all goes in and out through one road. and what does emergency management need right now to help out people? we need people to listen to the fact that we are asking them to leave because we have residents that are saying, i m high and dry. don t want to leave, and i don t think they understand the emergency part of it if someone needs to get in to them. so that is where our concern is. at 4:00 today, which is two minutes ago, they were putting a hard closure, which means that the road into the blackhawk park area is being closed. so anyone that is in there right now basically will not be able to come out if they don t come out immediately. are you concerned that ultimately boats or perhaps even helicopters would have to be
helicopters hovering in the sky. and westwood is people standing still and it s taped off, so i drive up to a policeman and they let me in. i go to the emergency part, and i go straight to my mother, and she is sitting there like in a daze. she was just in a daze, numb, staring into space. and then i said i consoled her a bit and then i went to see him. i said, well, where is he? they said, he s down the hall a bit. and i walked in this room, and it took a lot, larry, to walk into the room and see your brother laying there lifeless. laying on the this gurney thing, like. and he s and i sort of touched his face. and he was still soft. he was still soft. and i pulled his eye eyelid